Sophie's Choice

Episode 10 • February 10, 2026 • 01:19:06
Sophie's Choice
Spellbound
Sophie's Choice

Feb 10 2026 | 01:19:06

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This week, the girls dive headfirst into Bridgerton season four, unpacking the yearning, the drama, and everything the ton has to offer. They celebrate Nancy Meyers returning with a new rom-com, lose their minds over the meteoric rise of Heated Rivalry—including Connor Storrie landing a guest spot on Saturday Night Live in March—and take a joyful detour to Missouri, where a farmer is lovingly and scientifically educating the masses about birds being queer. They wrap things up with a Regency-era game of MASH!

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Welcome to Spellbound, a Romanasy podcast. I'm Deidre. [00:00:10] Speaker B: And I'm Jillian. [00:00:11] Speaker A: How are you? [00:00:12] Speaker B: I'm pretty good. [00:00:12] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It's a balmy 22 degrees here in Chicago. [00:00:16] Speaker B: It's beautiful. It's the. It's the. The tropics. Yes. I mean, it's incredible. [00:00:20] Speaker A: I mean, I walked around without gloves for about 10 minutes today, so we're making progress. [00:00:24] Speaker B: No scarf, no gloves. I mean, I felt okay about it. [00:00:27] Speaker A: Yeah. We were talking right before we pressed record on this, and it's like at the start of the season when you. When you hesitantly start transitioning from warm to cold and the temps finally reach this low. [00:00:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:40] Speaker A: You hate it. You're like, this is unbearable. 22 degrees. [00:00:43] Speaker B: No. [00:00:44] Speaker A: But then when you dip lower and you get, like, negative 20 wind chills. [00:00:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:00:49] Speaker A: That separates the men from the boys. I know. Okay. [00:00:55] Speaker B: The boys from the men. [00:00:56] Speaker A: Yeah, boys from the men. And I have to say, now that I've experienced it, I can. I can do 22 degrees. [00:01:02] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. Oh, my God. [00:01:04] Speaker A: Nothing. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Go out on the. You know, go in the swimming pool. I mean, it's beautiful. [00:01:09] Speaker A: Yeah. People are still jumping in Lake Michigan. [00:01:11] Speaker B: I know. Well, here's the thing. I was, like, walking Luna today, and I was like, the birds are singing. The birds were out. I was like, that's. I smell spring. [00:01:22] Speaker A: Yeah, you smell spring. For Groundhog Day. Punxsutawney Phil. He saw a shadow. [00:01:30] Speaker B: Yes. Whatever the one is. Six weeks of more. More of winter. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Okay. Which is good. [00:01:35] Speaker B: No, no, no. It means six more weeks of winter. [00:01:38] Speaker A: Well, I feel like we're gonna get that anyway. [00:01:40] Speaker B: Me, too. Yeah. [00:01:41] Speaker A: I mean, here in Chicago. Of course we're gonna get. [00:01:42] Speaker B: Right. [00:01:43] Speaker A: It's the winner. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Punxsatani. Well, Woodstock, Willie, apparently, is another one. That's Chicago. That's in Woodstock, Illinois. [00:01:51] Speaker A: I. I don't respect it. [00:01:52] Speaker B: No, I don't either. [00:01:53] Speaker A: I don't honor it. [00:01:54] Speaker B: What's that, Willie? I don't like it, William. [00:01:58] Speaker A: I don't. I don't respect it. I don't recognize it. It's not a. It's not a day that's on my calendar. You know what I'm saying? [00:02:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:02:07] Speaker A: But, yeah, I think. I think I texted you also that. I was like, is it staying lighter later? [00:02:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:13] Speaker A: I mean, once that happens, like, my mood is just. Oh, changed. [00:02:19] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:02:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:20] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. Once it's past, like, five o' clock again. So, like. All right, I could do this. [00:02:25] Speaker A: Can you think about the days in which it Was just warm. It's 6:30 in the evening and it feel. It looks like it's about 3:30 in the afternoon. [00:02:33] Speaker B: It's incredible. Incredible. [00:02:35] Speaker A: We are living. [00:02:36] Speaker B: We are living. When we get back, when we get past the spring forward, it's on. [00:02:41] Speaker A: Yes. [00:02:41] Speaker B: Where it's going to be like, you know, it gets to the point though in the summer room, like I'm going to need it to get dark. I need to have an excuse to watch tv. You know what I mean? [00:02:50] Speaker A: I know. Because like once you're in for all these months in the winter, you know. [00:02:55] Speaker B: Yeah. You get used to it. [00:02:56] Speaker A: You get used to it. And then like when it's warm, like the expectation is for you to have a booked and busy schedule. [00:03:02] Speaker B: Right, Right. Oh yeah. [00:03:04] Speaker A: And listen, I love a little booked and busy here and there. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, me too. [00:03:07] Speaker A: But after a while I want to sit my ass on the couch, draw the blinds and do the thing. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. I mean the light is really has a huge effect on me. I mean I didn't realize cause I never liked it. I love nap, you know I love a nap. [00:03:22] Speaker A: You're a nap girl. [00:03:23] Speaker B: I love a nap. And so. But you cannot go to sleep if you're going to wake up before or like after dark. No, like you just. It messes with disorienting and so in the summer if it's seven o' clock and you want to take a nap, go ahead. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Yes, absolutely. Because you're going to wake up two hours later still going to be light. I mean. [00:03:43] Speaker B: No, and, but now. But like for a while it was like you can't go to sleep past 3:30. And. And yeah, that's right in the middle of my work day. [00:03:50] Speaker A: So a never ending midnight sun. I know, like the song by Lara, is it Lara? Yeah. What's her name? It's a song that Kevin sent me and I was like this is giving early 2000s pop. And she just. Yeah. Let me see. What's Midnight Sun? Yeah. Zara Larson. I was saying Laura Zara Larson. [00:04:13] Speaker B: Is she Swedish? [00:04:14] Speaker A: Yeah, she's that. She's over there. You know, she's giving that region that's really dark. Yeah. But that song brightens my mood. [00:04:26] Speaker B: Yeah. There you go. [00:04:27] Speaker A: That's what summer 26 is going to be. [00:04:29] Speaker B: Yep. [00:04:30] Speaker A: What else is going on? Work is good. I have to tell you. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:34] Speaker A: I think I've been telling you. You laugh at this and it is a cry for help. But I say when I say I feel so far from. [00:04:42] Speaker B: Are you feeling extra far from yourself? [00:04:44] Speaker A: No, I have, um. And I'm like. I just have to, like. I think it's just been, like, looking in the mirror, being like, I don't like what's going on. I see, like, I don't like what I see. You know, I'm not, like, sitting here wanting to be £12. That's not what the call is. But I'm like, I also am not taking good care of myself. I need to move my body more and the mental effects of it. I need to get up. I need to go do things right. I signed up for Orange Theory. [00:05:09] Speaker B: There you go. There you go. [00:05:10] Speaker A: I've been. I've been to three classes. [00:05:12] Speaker B: Have you really? [00:05:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:13] Speaker B: Do you like him? [00:05:14] Speaker A: Love him? [00:05:15] Speaker B: Oh, my God. That makes me. That makes me sweat. I can't even imagine that I. [00:05:19] Speaker A: Okay, so some lore. [00:05:21] Speaker B: Okay. [00:05:21] Speaker A: With orange theory or 2018. Picture it. [00:05:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:25] Speaker A: Just a city girl who's moved to Columbus. [00:05:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:27] Speaker A: For work. [00:05:27] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:05:28] Speaker A: I had to get out of D.C. yeah. And desperation took me to Columbus, Ohio. Right. You had to know that I was running from something. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Yeah, you were running. [00:05:38] Speaker A: I get to Columbus, I'm like, okay, I need to find my workout place here. Obviously, money's not as tight in Columbus as it is. Right, Right. And I was like, I can find a little room in the budget for Orange Theory. So I signed up for my. A free class. I go. The experience I got in 2018 at that studio was nothing like the experience I got at the studio here, just up the street in Logan Square. [00:06:01] Speaker B: Okay. [00:06:02] Speaker A: Like, very kind and very exp. Just explained really well that, like, don't compete with anybody else. [00:06:08] Speaker B: Okay. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Go at your own pace. [00:06:10] Speaker B: Nice. [00:06:10] Speaker A: Whatever feels right for you at any. With any workout that you're doing is what you need to do is for you. And so going into it with that mindset, I was like, okay. Like, you know, because in 2018, I was, like, looking at the people next to me being like, they're at breakneck speeds on the treadmill, and I just don't see a place for me or. [00:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:29] Speaker A: And so I went into it. I really enjoyed the rowers. I love the weights and on the treadmill, which was really kind of daunting for me as an idea. There's room for me because they also, you know, have an opportunity for people who consider themselves as power walkers to love it, be on the treadmill. So instead of, like, jogging, which does not work for me, me, like, since my colors straight into the red, I have been walking at it, and we are getting it done. So. And it's nice because by the end of, like, the 50 minutes, 60 minutes, whatever the time of the classes are that I choose, I look up, I'm like, I can't believe this is done. [00:07:04] Speaker B: You're kidding. [00:07:04] Speaker A: No, I love it. [00:07:06] Speaker B: Wow. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Now, you know, I don't. I don't subscribe to, like, a cult mindset, so I'm not like, you know, like, this is everything I need, but it is something that I'm like, I really. I enjoy this. And I think, you know, in this, everybody's search for finding something that they like, like. Yeah, I'm glad I kind of discovered it again. And so I'm just going to keep going and. [00:07:24] Speaker B: Yeah, do it. That's awesome. So it is basically just like, calisthenics, right? And. Yeah. Or is it crossfit? Is it defined as cross? [00:07:34] Speaker A: It's like cross training. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Okay. [00:07:36] Speaker A: So it is like, you know, squats. It's like squats. It's like free weights. It's got, like, the TRX straps. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:07:44] Speaker A: Like, today I was doing, like, plank. I did some planks, I did some lunges, some reverse lunges. I did some, like, you know, just think things like that. Got on the rowing machine for, like, 30 strokes. Yeah. As long as that takes. And then we got on the treadmill for a block. And like, you start at a base pace, then you increase, and then you go all out, which is whatever that looks like for you. It might not be for you what it is for the other person. So, like, the two people next to me were, like, racing, but I was, like, walking at an incline but still getting a workout because it was a high incline and I'm, like, working my, you know, my glutes. So, yeah, I've been enjoying it and. And I've been trying to push myself to get up in the mornings and get it out of the way. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:26] Speaker A: Otherwise, I won't do it. [00:08:28] Speaker B: Yeah. I think, like. Because I just went back to Pilates after, and so I'm like. And I am looking at the schedule, like, I probably should find an early morning one. But in the, like, when it was like, January. No, I wasn't. I wasn't gonna do it. [00:08:42] Speaker A: No. I'm sorry. Like, I'm only being able to break into it because I see, like, the light at the end of the tunnel. [00:08:47] Speaker B: Totally. [00:08:48] Speaker A: But this wouldn't have been. This wouldn't have worked for me as well if, like, I signed up at the beginning of January. Right. You know what I'm saying? [00:08:53] Speaker B: Right. Right. [00:08:54] Speaker A: Yeah. But this Studio. It's crazy. Their earliest class is 5:00am yeah, that's like Pilates. [00:09:00] Speaker B: Yeah. It's insane. [00:09:01] Speaker A: And they have a six. I went to the 7:15 today, and I'm like, that's early for me. But I'm like, you know, on days when, like, maybe I have like, a 9:00am like, maybe going to the 6:00am class is like, get it done. [00:09:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Get home, get Birdie out, get back, get myself together. And she's done. [00:09:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:16] Speaker A: It's also really nice to be tired at the end of the day. [00:09:18] Speaker B: Oh, my God, it's so nice. Yes. [00:09:21] Speaker A: Like, and I'm not often tired at the end of the day. And it's because I'm not exerting any energy. [00:09:25] Speaker B: Right. I am always tired when I go into work, but I like. But not if I stay home. Yeah. So it's a good thing. It's like, good thing you break up. [00:09:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:37] Speaker A: I just get out and whatever. So that's. That's kind of what's going on. [00:09:41] Speaker B: There you go. [00:09:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like that's it. Are we missing anything? [00:09:45] Speaker B: I think that's it. I mean, we could do a little Hear ye, hear ye. [00:09:48] Speaker A: I got some Hear ye, hear ye. [00:09:49] Speaker B: All right, here we go. [00:09:50] Speaker A: Okay. You are going to freak when I tell you this. You may have already heard the news, but this news is for you. I put this at the top of the ticket. [00:09:56] Speaker B: There we go. Good. [00:09:58] Speaker A: Nancy Myers. [00:09:59] Speaker B: I did see this. [00:10:00] Speaker A: Is coming out with a new movie, her first in 10 years. [00:10:03] Speaker B: Yep. [00:10:04] Speaker A: After two years of negotiations, it's finally happening. Penelope Cruz, Kieran Culkin, Jude Law, Emma Mackie and Owen Wilson are said to be starring in the new comedy that Nancy wrote and will direct. It has an opening date of December 25, 2027. So got a little time to go. You be 40. [00:10:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:26] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:10:26] Speaker B: That was the scariest thing. [00:10:30] Speaker A: I wrote that date down. I was like, damn, you won't be 40. I'll be 39. Yeah, but she has. [00:10:40] Speaker B: That hurt, that bruise. [00:10:41] Speaker A: I don't know why that is so funny. You'll be halfway on your way to 41. Jesus. [00:10:50] Speaker B: Time. I am black and blue right now. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Time really comes for us all. I mean, time marches forward. It waits for Noah. I know. [00:10:58] Speaker B: They're like, you will be 40. [00:11:02] Speaker A: To put it in context, it's right around the corner. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:11:09] Speaker A: She hasn't made a movie since 2015's. [00:11:11] Speaker B: The Intern, which basically, at this point, it's like my life is like, something's gotta give. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Pretty much I have another jump scare for you later on in the episode as we talk about our subject matter for this week. [00:11:21] Speaker B: Oh, I think I know. Yeah. [00:11:23] Speaker A: Like age. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you. You're talking about the actress, maybe in. [00:11:28] Speaker A: Here, like the main actress. [00:11:30] Speaker B: No, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. [00:11:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, no, there's a. There's a supporting actress. [00:11:33] Speaker B: And I'm like, yeah, no, I know. Yep, yep. I think I know. [00:11:37] Speaker A: Okay, maybe. Hopefully we're talking about the same person. There's not multiple jump scares of age in the fourth installment at Bridgerton. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Okay, what was it? [00:11:45] Speaker A: You'll be 40. You'll be 40. It's coming out December 25th, 2027. Oh, wow. Yeah, you'll be 40. You'll be celebrating Christmas on your 40th year. [00:11:58] Speaker B: I'm gonna be crying over heated rivalry season three. [00:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And 40. Just a reminder, you will still be 38, however, when Connor's story, our beloved baby angel, Beloved baby angel of the pod, hosts Saturday night live on February 28th. Love it. I'm thrilled. [00:12:19] Speaker B: I know, I know. [00:12:20] Speaker A: What a meteoric rise, yo. [00:12:22] Speaker B: For sure. And he. I mean, I love Hudson Williams, but Connor's story particularly deserves Thespian. [00:12:29] Speaker A: Yes, thespian. And you know what? He's gonna crush it. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Crush. I mean, we're about to see stardom. He's gonna get an Oscar in the next five years. [00:12:38] Speaker A: He's probably gonna get an Emmy nomination for his guest starring role. [00:12:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I can see that. Yeah. [00:12:44] Speaker A: Because he's so good. He's going to crush it. [00:12:48] Speaker B: Yeah, he's, you know, Alexander Skarsgard, apparently. Did you read about that? He was on SNL and he brought his dad out and like, he. Apparently I read about this and it was like, you know, there. Some things fell flat, you know, but like, he's so into the weird. Like, he so wants to be weird. And so. And that's what I've heard from snl, like, actors is like, when somebody comes in and is like, I'm willing to do whatever that makes a good show. [00:13:17] Speaker A: Oh, and that's gonna be Connor. [00:13:18] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Oh, it's going the way I'm gonna be sat. I know everything's being tuned off. I'm watching. Because we are watching a star in the making. [00:13:27] Speaker B: He's gonna straddle everyone. I mean, it's gonna be amazing. [00:13:30] Speaker A: I can't wait for whatever skit they do with Ilya, his character. [00:13:34] Speaker B: Yes. [00:13:35] Speaker A: Because you know, it's coming. Yeah, for sure. They're gonna Be like, pull that Russian accent right the on out. [00:13:39] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:13:40] Speaker A: And Hudson will probably make. [00:13:41] Speaker B: Yeah, he has to. Yeah. [00:13:44] Speaker A: I, I, they're gonna have so much fun writing that episode. So many great started. [00:13:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, my God. [00:13:51] Speaker A: So many great skits are gonna come from that. I can I. It is so impressive. So impressive that he is already getting a nod to do snl. I mean, rivalry. [00:14:02] Speaker B: Amazing. [00:14:02] Speaker A: And all the, just like all the fanfare. Incredible. Great news. Best news I've heard in a long time. [00:14:07] Speaker B: Long time. [00:14:08] Speaker A: Love that. You know who fell fat? Flap. And I think had a lot of fanfare going into it? Jacob Elordi. [00:14:15] Speaker B: Oh, did he? [00:14:16] Speaker A: I watched it and I was like, yeah. Not a chuckle. Not a chuckle for me. [00:14:20] Speaker B: Really? [00:14:20] Speaker A: No. [00:14:21] Speaker B: You can't do comedy then. [00:14:22] Speaker A: I don't think so. Wow. [00:14:24] Speaker B: Okay. [00:14:24] Speaker A: Pretty. It was like in the, in the height of Saltburn. [00:14:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:28] Speaker A: And all the, all the hoopla around that. Okay. [00:14:32] Speaker B: Did Barry Keon do it too? [00:14:34] Speaker A: I didn't. I don't know. [00:14:35] Speaker B: Okay. He freaks me out. [00:14:36] Speaker A: I don't, I don't, I don't. I make it a point not to follow. [00:14:43] Speaker B: God, it sounds really mean, but, like. [00:14:50] Speaker A: Yeah, that really builds up a man's self esteem. He, like, apparently people were talking. I saw something on Instagram this week where, like, Barry came out on some red carpet or it was some fashion show or something that was like, he's just debuting a new look and then he comes out and it's like, just like, like more hair. Like a heavier crop of hair. People in the comments were like, is the new look in the room with us? [00:15:14] Speaker B: You can't. [00:15:15] Speaker A: I mean, there's not much you could do. [00:15:17] Speaker B: There's not much you can do. Yeah. The thing. It also didn't help that he, like, started out or like, he got famous with Saltburn because you're always going to see that character of like, holy. I'm really afraid of him. [00:15:29] Speaker A: I know. I wasn't a big fan. [00:15:31] Speaker B: No. [00:15:31] Speaker A: There's lots of people that like, like, just loved it. I don't know. I didn't. So it wasn't me. [00:15:36] Speaker B: I was thinking about this because I was like, you know, I was talking about a heat of rivalry. And there's like, before he had a rivalry and after. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Which is like, I was a changed woman. In a good way. Yeah. On my way to 40. [00:15:47] Speaker A: On her way to 40. Thank God it happened before 40, but. [00:15:52] Speaker B: So, but Saltburn was one of those where I'm like, I want to go back. This is very disturbing to me. [00:15:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, I probably won't give it another watch. [00:16:02] Speaker B: Absolutely not. You know, I'm a little afraid for Wuthering Heights for that reason. [00:16:06] Speaker A: Well, we'll be seeing it, and we will be covering it on the pod. [00:16:11] Speaker B: Yeah, can't wait. Is that your other. Your. Cause I have one, too. [00:16:15] Speaker A: Okay, well, I have one more. Give it. Give it. What's yours? [00:16:19] Speaker B: No, you give it. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Okay. Well, you know, if you hadn't heard, birds are queer. And that is according to farmer Chase Barnes. Okay. In Missouri. [00:16:31] Speaker B: He. [00:16:32] Speaker A: He. Chase Barnes is a farmer in the Kansas City area. He has recently posted about two pigeons that have nested together on his. On his farm. There you go. Two male pigeons. Love it. And you know, he's saying these two are both males. They paired up on their own, and they've been inseparable. Barnes, who runs Cottonwood Farms with his fiance Zach, just south of Kansas City, has raised pigeons for years. He grew up on a farm competitively showing poultry, cattle, and horses, and later got into pigeons through a friend. Over time, he says he's learned just how socially complex and emotionally expressive pigeons can be. You know, pigeons are really kind of sad. [00:17:10] Speaker B: They really. They're given a bad name. [00:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah. They were domesticated animals, and then we just let them free, and now we treat them like trash. It's sad. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Like literal trash. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is sad. They're pretty. [00:17:21] Speaker A: And the re. And how they get so close to you without fear. [00:17:24] Speaker B: I know. [00:17:25] Speaker A: That's sad. [00:17:26] Speaker B: That's sa. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Had. [00:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:27] Speaker A: It to me, he says about the birds. They were always in the same nest box. One would chase other birds away, and every time I went in to feed, they were right next to each other. The parent felt familiar to Barnes, who says that same sex relationships among birds are far more common than people realize. Birds court, he explained. They puff up, coup. Spin around. So when they do that with another bird of the same sex, it's very obvious to us. And honestly, birds are very gay. Okay. So interesting with this. But you need to know that they are different breeds of pigeons. One's a larger medina. I think that's how you pronounce pigeon. The other a smaller Italian owl. Okay. And they've become minor celebrities online, with commenters projecting everything from enemies to lovers tropes to complete Broadway arcs on the pair. And you should also know that heated rivalry has made its way into the nest because Barnes has named the pigeons. One is Ilya Rozanoff for the Modena pigeon, and Shane Hollander for the Italian owl. [00:18:26] Speaker B: There you go. Love it. [00:18:29] Speaker A: It's everywhere. [00:18:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it is everywhere. [00:18:30] Speaker A: God bless these pigeons. [00:18:31] Speaker B: I mean. [00:18:32] Speaker A: And that's from an article in People magazine, but, you know, as. As an ally, I love to see it. [00:18:38] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Yeah, we've reached the birds. [00:18:43] Speaker A: Yes, it's taking over. [00:18:45] Speaker B: So. Okay, so have you heard. And I think it only came out today, but basically, like, Jason Bateman is getting a lot of flack online because. What. You know that Smart List podcast he does? Yeah. So they had Charlie XCX on, and basically she was talking about how she doesn't want kids. And he. And he was like. He said something like, I know where. [00:19:10] Speaker A: This is heading, and I don't. [00:19:11] Speaker B: He was like, maybe you'll change your mind based on, you know, if you meet somebody. And she goes, I'm married. [00:19:20] Speaker A: Way to switch it up. I love that I'm married. She's like, there is no meaning to anybody else. I don't. I don't want kids. [00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. I mean, but it was just like, apparently. And when I read it through, it wasn't as bad as, like, you know, obviously, like, clickbait and stuff, but, like, it still was a little bit. And the thing about the show, I guess I didn't really realize this, it was like one of them has. Knows what who the guest is that's coming on, but two of them don't, so they don't get to do the research. So Jason Bateman just didn't know she was married. [00:19:52] Speaker A: Okay. [00:19:53] Speaker B: So, you know, you can't really expect to. That. That of. But he did say something weird like, I don't want to take credit, but, like, you know, when my wife met me, she didn't want kids. But then, you know, she met me and was like, oh, I want kids with him. [00:20:07] Speaker A: It's like, so. I don't think so, Jason. [00:20:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:10] Speaker A: Let women say they don't want kids. Or let women say they want kids. [00:20:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Who cares? [00:20:15] Speaker B: I know, I know. [00:20:16] Speaker A: But if this woman's sitting across from you on a microphone and goes, look. Looks you dead in the eye and says, I don't think I want kids. [00:20:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:22] Speaker A: Take it at face value. Don't let it go. [00:20:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:23] Speaker A: Don't sit here and be like, well, you'll change. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Try to convince me. Yeah, yeah. [00:20:27] Speaker A: You're not pulling me in that Ponzi scheme. No, that mlm. [00:20:31] Speaker B: Charlie xcx. What are you talking about? [00:20:33] Speaker A: Have you heard Von Dutch? [00:20:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:36] Speaker A: I don't have time for kids. I'm not bringing kids into this equation. The hell. I got Weathering Heights coming out Next week. [00:20:42] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, I'm so excited. [00:20:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna be in the theaters. Can't wait to get on here and gap with you gals about that film. That is crazy. That is a crazy take. Yeah. [00:20:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:54] Speaker A: Well, that's it for my hear you hear. [00:20:56] Speaker B: That's it. [00:20:56] Speaker A: You got anything else? [00:20:57] Speaker B: No. [00:20:58] Speaker A: On the docket. [00:20:58] Speaker B: Yep. No. [00:20:59] Speaker A: Okay. [00:20:59] Speaker B: I think that's it. [00:21:00] Speaker A: Well, let's get into a little ton talk, shall we? You like? [00:21:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Is it the ton? Yeah. I mean, because it's in British accent, so it's like. [00:21:09] Speaker A: Yeah, it's gonna be a rough British accent for me. This week we're talking about part one of the latest season of Bridgerton, which gives fans a long awaited Cinderella esque love story. Ooh. [00:21:22] Speaker B: That's right. Season four of Bridgerton follows the romantic journey of Benedict Bridgerton, the artistic second oldest sibling who spent previous seasons resisting society's expectations. And now he meets a mystery woman at a masquerade ball and becomes determined to find her again, a la Cinderella. Yes, this season is based largely on the third Bridgerton book, An Offer from a Gentleman. So it's written by Julia Quinn. So this part one, which came out on Friday, consists of four episodes. And the second installment is slated to be released February 26th. So mark those calendars. [00:22:04] Speaker A: You'll still be 38 when those come out. [00:22:07] Speaker B: Shut the fuck up. I will kill. [00:22:11] Speaker A: All right. Well, this is great. Four episodes. [00:22:15] Speaker B: Yep. What'd you think? [00:22:17] Speaker A: I had a good time. Gowns. Beautiful gowns. [00:22:20] Speaker B: Beautiful gowns. Yeah. [00:22:21] Speaker A: The whole thing is Easter themed. [00:22:26] Speaker B: You're not. Let's just say. Let's just. You're not into Bridget. [00:22:31] Speaker A: I've tried multiple seasons. Seasons one, I probably got in a few episodes and then I just dropped it. Didn't. I don't think I watched season two, but I should go back to watch Jonathan. [00:22:40] Speaker B: Jonathan Bailey. Yeah. And then. [00:22:42] Speaker A: Yeah, this season. Cute. [00:22:44] Speaker B: This season. I mean, honestly though, that's what like, sums up Bridgerton is like, it's cute, you know, and like Easter egg. Well, the thing is like I. And I was thinking a lot about this and like reading, you know, a lot of people were saying this is like after, like watching it after heated rivalry, you're like, I mean, it's a little bit like, it's junk, you know. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Heated rivalry has stolen thunder. So many shows, romantic or otherwise, honest to God, ruined. [00:23:11] Speaker B: Ruined me. [00:23:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:12] Speaker B: And I mean, I think that like, the other thing is like, when you see this like, balanced relationship and then you go back to like this toxic you know, like, oh, we have this power differential. And so, like. But now, whatever. I mean, we'll get into it. But, like, it is really hard to watch because you're like, you know, we've talked about this before that, like, about heated rivalry. One of the things that was so great for women in particular was, like, taking yourself out of the story. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:40] Speaker B: And now it's like, we are back in. [00:23:42] Speaker A: We are back. I see myself. [00:23:44] Speaker B: I know. I know. You're like, this is hard. You know, he's gonna hurt her. And guess what he does in the biggest. [00:23:52] Speaker A: I know. Okay. [00:23:54] Speaker B: Disrespects her. [00:23:55] Speaker A: Disrespects her. Here's what I'll give Bridgerton. And we said. We said this a little bit about heated rivalry when we talked about it is. It's like optimism porn in a way. Like, everything about it is optimism. And. [00:24:09] Speaker B: But you think about Bridgerton. That's optimism. [00:24:12] Speaker A: I'm saying that because you got people of all colors, creeds walking around in this world. [00:24:17] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:24:18] Speaker A: And. And anybody has a chance. So that element of, like. [00:24:22] Speaker B: Right. [00:24:22] Speaker A: That element of it is taken out of the equation. It's like societal equality. I will say, though. And I saw a lot of conversation. I saw an article that was saying that people have expressed disappointment in the fact that they thought that this was finally an opportunity to have a gay main character in Bridgerton, and they didn't take the chance. While some people also defended the chance by being like, this is like bi representation, especially for a bi male, which is to say they're trying to get rid of this idea. They thought that this season did a good job of trying to do away with the notion that bi men aren't a real thing. [00:25:08] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:25:09] Speaker A: That they're actually gay. And so they thought it was important for a bi man to be both interested in men and women and ultimately choose a woman. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Right, right. I mean. [00:25:19] Speaker A: Which is not what we got in heated rivalry. [00:25:21] Speaker B: Not what we got. And you know what? Not what I was looking for. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Right. [00:25:25] Speaker B: I mean. No, I agree. When I saw the third season, and he was, like, kind of having. [00:25:31] Speaker A: I did not see the third season. [00:25:32] Speaker B: I know you did. I know. I'm gonna explain it. [00:25:35] Speaker A: Okay. [00:25:36] Speaker B: So he was, like. Like, kind of in this relationship with this woman, and then she brought in a man, and then they kind of, like, were like a threesome. And. And what ended up happening was she basically was like, I'm starting to catch feelings for you. And what did he do was like, I don't have time for that. Like I don't really think about you that way. [00:25:57] Speaker A: And you're going, I feel seen. [00:25:59] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, let's. Can we call somebody out? Like, you know, so anyway, but so I was psyched because I was like, okay, they're gonna do. They're gonna like, you know, have a, he's gonna have a like male love interest. Right. And I know they didn't know about Heated Rivalry, but if they had made that. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Yeah. It was a totally different storyline. It would have gone away from the book up. Yeah, we wouldn't have based this on the book, but. [00:26:24] Speaker B: No, I mean it would be like people, like, people would be hungry for it. [00:26:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:29] Speaker B: So they'd watch heated rivalry and they'll be like, yes. They'll be like Bridgerton as. And they it up. They it up. Yeah. [00:26:35] Speaker A: And it's odd because it feels like the. [00:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:39] Speaker A: What is still going on. I mean I say it's like optimism porn. Specifically for the fact that like there's so many diverse types of people going on. I'm like, I love to see the, the interracial. Just relations of the show. Yeah, I know that'. Anything brand new for people that have been watching it, like they, you know. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Yeah, well, yeah, whatever. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah. But I do think that's great. But also it is very toxic because the thing that they remain tried and true to is the, these Regency era expectations of heterosexual marriage and coupling. [00:27:13] Speaker B: I mean, I think, and I will say that. So like, I don't know if you've read this, but Francesca is, is, you know that in the end. And the YouTube short that you. [00:27:24] Speaker A: Yes, sure. Yeah, absolutely. I got through two episodes and I was like, you know what? YouTube, take me home. [00:27:32] Speaker B: So in the end, in the fourth episode, basically Francesca, do you remember her? [00:27:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:38] Speaker B: And John. So John's cousin who's this woman shows up. So that's going to be the love story. [00:27:45] Speaker A: And she's like, I'm ready for my pinnacle. [00:27:48] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes, exactly. [00:27:50] Speaker A: And in the book, YouTube didn't steer me wrong. [00:27:52] Speaker B: It's. I know it didn't but in the book like it's a man and his name is Michael. But the thing is like, I think in terms of like the Regency era, like all of those, it would be harder for two men, like especially like at Bridgerton level, you know, for to be out together. Would it be great for them to like, you know, just like whatever. Like that would be great. But if they are going by that, those standards then it would be hard to meet that. [00:28:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And thinking about it from that lens, I'm a little bit like, well, I, you know, I don't like the optics of him, like, hooking up with a brown man in a brothel. And he only keeps the brown man to the brothel. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Don't love it. Yep. No, no, I did. [00:28:34] Speaker A: I was excited first because, you know, I was going into this blind. I was very excited that he went in there and he was, like, making out with this man. All of a sudden. I was like, yes, okay. We're bucking. [00:28:43] Speaker B: I know. [00:28:43] Speaker A: Tradition and the trend. That's great. [00:28:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:28:47] Speaker A: And I did like the fact that he and his sister. What. What sister's name? [00:28:51] Speaker B: Eloise. [00:28:51] Speaker A: Eloise. Are like, we're not trying to get married. I wondered if Eloise was a lesbian. I was like, you know, I shouldn't really think that because I, too, believe in Eloise's play against, like, being like, I don't have to get married. These are boring me for sure. I don't want to be forced into this. Yeah. I shouldn't think that, you know, I shouldn't question what her sexuality is based on that. But I did. I did wonder. But I, I, I. I stand them. I love them for the fact that they're like, we don't. [00:29:15] Speaker B: The two that do this. And they have been that way throughout that. So what I will say about Luke Thompson, who Benedict is like, he was one of my favorite characters in the first three seasons because he's just, like, kind of funny and, like, you know, he, like, bucks tradition, and he's like, whatever. And Eloise is the same way. Like, Eloise throughout the seasons have been like, you know, her mom is, like, forcing her to go, you know, be a debutan or whatever, and she's like, no, I don't want to do it. [00:29:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:46] Speaker B: I will say what I didn't like about. About this season is, like, there kept. There was, like, several times when Penelope and Francesca were like, oh, you're not invited, Eloise, because you're not married. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:03] Speaker B: It was like, so. And then I. And it was so cringy. So cringy. I get it. They have these, like, traditions, but it's like, who the. Like, come on. [00:30:13] Speaker A: It's like, Penelope, don't act brand new girl. A year ago, you were sitting here. [00:30:16] Speaker B: Exactly, Exactly. Exactly. [00:30:17] Speaker A: And now you want to do your XOXO Gossip Girl thing. I haven't forgotten. [00:30:21] Speaker B: Hate it. I hated it. She. I really didn't like her in this. In this season. Like, she was great in the third season, but this, I mean, I Don't know. It's like after they get married, they. [00:30:32] Speaker A: They're boring. [00:30:33] Speaker B: They're boring. [00:30:34] Speaker A: Yeah. They have nothing to offer. All they do is slob each other down. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's like, okay, all right. Like, I just. I don't care. [00:30:44] Speaker A: Who is the. I want to go back to the character. Is it Catherine? No. [00:30:50] Speaker B: Violet? No. [00:30:51] Speaker A: The character who can't reach the pinnacle. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Oh, Francesca. [00:30:55] Speaker A: Yeah, Francesca. That's interesting too, that they're like, well, maybe she just can't orgasm because she's gay. And it's a little bit like, have you had sex with a man? [00:31:05] Speaker B: Yeah, with a straight man. I know. I mean, it's not. [00:31:10] Speaker A: I'm not trying to deny the fact that, yeah. Maybe if you are in fact gay. [00:31:15] Speaker B: Right. [00:31:15] Speaker A: And you're having sex with someone who is not of your orientation or of, you know, of your preference. Yeah. Maybe you're not going to necessarily, like, be into it. [00:31:24] Speaker B: Right. [00:31:24] Speaker A: But let me tell you, you can be very into it. [00:31:27] Speaker B: There's an art. Yeah. Come on. It's an art. [00:31:30] Speaker A: And these men are not doing the job. [00:31:34] Speaker B: I doubt. And Regency era men in particular, they didn't give a. That's why you need a buy a bi king like Benedict, because he knows what he's doing. Yeah, yeah. [00:31:42] Speaker A: Which he shows in episode four, as I saw in the YouTub recap. Okay, let's talk a little bit about Sophie, our main female. [00:31:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I really liked her. I thought she was good actress. [00:31:55] Speaker A: Have you seen her in previous episodes? [00:31:57] Speaker B: No, she's brand new. [00:31:58] Speaker A: Brand new. Okay. Liked her. [00:32:00] Speaker B: I liked her. Yeah. I think she carried it. Honestly and. Okay. On her back. Violet and Lady Danbury. Yes, Lady Danbury is. She's always carried it. Yeah. [00:32:11] Speaker A: Such a goddess. Lady Danbury, the actress who plays her as an older woman is stunning as well as the actress who played her in Queen Charlotte was also. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. [00:32:21] Speaker A: Really great casting. [00:32:22] Speaker B: I saw that. Yeah. Okay. [00:32:25] Speaker A: And it's the one. Did you watch the season with Queen Charlotte? [00:32:30] Speaker B: I watched like the first couple, so I think I might have missed that. Yeah, yeah. [00:32:34] Speaker A: She goes through it. But anyway, I, Yeah, I really liked it. That was an interesting storyline this season of toxic friendships. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Friendship. Yep. The like. No, you're not leaving. [00:32:47] Speaker A: I thought that was crazy. [00:32:48] Speaker B: I know. That was crazy. I mean, they are like, it's. It's been pretty clear throughout the seasons that she's very. [00:32:55] Speaker A: The. [00:32:55] Speaker B: The queen is very lonely. [00:32:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:57] Speaker B: And so. And you know, and so there have been basically the king has come back and he's got like dementia and he's like, really? She's always like, did he die? Did he die yet? You know, and so I think, like. [00:33:10] Speaker A: Like. [00:33:11] Speaker B: But that. That whole. And, like, their. Their talk about it, her apology, that was really good. [00:33:16] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was really sad to see her be so vulnerable because usually she's like, you know. [00:33:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:21] Speaker A: They're like, yeah, exactly. But terrible maternity policy. Maternity leave policy. [00:33:27] Speaker B: You're not coming back. [00:33:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Lady Wayne was like, I'm expecting. She goes, see ya. [00:33:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Wait, no, it was something about, like, she's compromised or like she's in a situation like it. There was nothing ever about pregnancy. [00:33:38] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's what I thought. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. [00:33:40] Speaker A: Is it? [00:33:41] Speaker B: It is. Yeah. [00:33:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:41] Speaker B: But the guy was like. I can't remember how he put it. Something like, she's. [00:33:46] Speaker A: I think it was compromised or something. [00:33:47] Speaker B: Something like that. [00:33:48] Speaker A: I was like, oh, yeah. And she said, but she'd like to return. And the queen was like, no, we don't do that. Don't bring them kids around here, okay? [00:33:59] Speaker B: There's no breastfeeding here. We don't. [00:34:01] Speaker A: We don't have. We don't have a breastfeeding room, girl. [00:34:03] Speaker B: We're not. [00:34:04] Speaker A: Definitely not about to whip it out. Of course it's too tight. [00:34:07] Speaker B: Of course. [00:34:08] Speaker A: That's. [00:34:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:09] Speaker A: But, yeah, that was interesting in terms of a friendship in which two people are in it for years. [00:34:15] Speaker B: Right. [00:34:15] Speaker A: There's this expected role that somebody plays within the relationship. [00:34:18] Speaker B: And there's. There's definitely the power. [00:34:20] Speaker A: The power dynamic. Yeah. Because she was trying to pull rank. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Yeah. At one point. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Which was crazy. And honestly, like, friendship ending, to me. [00:34:28] Speaker B: I know. Oh, yeah. [00:34:29] Speaker A: For sure. It's crazy to be like, oh, you want to do this now? After 12 years? And now you want to be like, I'm your queen. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Right, right, right, right. Oh, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. [00:34:39] Speaker A: Yeah. But Lady Danbury's like, I'm trying to retire. I'm trying to get up out of here. [00:34:42] Speaker B: She's like, I need to go to my ancestral home. [00:34:44] Speaker A: Like, yeah, you would think that the queen would have a little bit better of a. Yeah. [00:34:47] Speaker B: Yeah. But she. I think she just was so scared, you know, she just was like, I can't. You know, what. What am I going to be left with? He's going to die. And then. I don't know. She's got, like, 13 kids. I don't know what the problem is. [00:35:01] Speaker A: I'd be gone, too. [00:35:02] Speaker B: I know, I know. [00:35:03] Speaker A: I'd go anywhere. Let's go on a diplomatic Trip. [00:35:05] Speaker B: I know. Oh, my God. Ser, seriously, let's see the world. [00:35:10] Speaker A: Can't she find somebody? [00:35:11] Speaker B: I know. [00:35:12] Speaker A: She can't marry somebody else. Who? [00:35:14] Speaker B: Queen Charlotte. [00:35:14] Speaker A: The Queen? Oh, he needs to die. [00:35:15] Speaker B: He's still alive? Yeah, he's still alive. [00:35:17] Speaker A: Let's poison him. [00:35:19] Speaker B: I mean, I think she loves him, though. [00:35:22] Speaker A: I don't get it. [00:35:23] Speaker B: I don't get it. [00:35:23] Speaker A: I don't see the vision. I don't see the vision. [00:35:26] Speaker B: You know what? Nobody knows anyway. You might as well just leave him there as the king. [00:35:29] Speaker A: Just give him a little. [00:35:30] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. [00:35:33] Speaker A: Just slip it in spot. Nobody knows. Just while everybody's at a ball. Just somebody needs to do it. [00:35:40] Speaker B: You know what? I think the disabilities, they're gonna. They're gonna come after you. The. [00:35:46] Speaker A: Don't. Don't. What is the disability that he has? [00:35:51] Speaker B: Oh, he's mental. I mean, he had, like, pretty severe mental illness. [00:35:54] Speaker A: I didn't get that far in the episode. [00:35:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:56] Speaker A: Okay. I'm sorry. [00:35:56] Speaker B: So no Queen in Queen Charlotte. Like, he has a very severe mental illness which then leads to dementia. [00:36:03] Speaker A: I did not. I'm sorry. [00:36:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:05] Speaker A: Disability advocates. [00:36:06] Speaker B: You're like, we just kill him. [00:36:11] Speaker A: Disability advocates. I did not know that that's what was happening. I just thought he had an attitude problem, wanted to stay in his room because that's what the first couple episodes of Queen Charlotte were giving me. And I just was like, I don't know that I want to carry through with this. I wish her well and I want the best for her. [00:36:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was a pretty. It was. Was like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Okay. Well, that changes things. You know, you do better when you have more. When you're equipped with more information. Not. [00:36:37] Speaker B: YouTube's not quite cutting it. [00:36:40] Speaker A: No. Okay. Sorry. We went the wrong. [00:36:42] Speaker B: You will be 40 eventually. [00:36:46] Speaker A: Yes. Okay. Sorry. That's the long way around from. Sophie loved her. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:51] Speaker A: She was great. Very much the Cinderella storyline. [00:36:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Now I was heartbroken, broken about. With her story. [00:36:57] Speaker B: Oh, about the dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:36:59] Speaker A: Yes. So she is born to a. He is. Is he? What is he? Is he like a nobleman? [00:37:08] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Or he's a man of wealth or something. [00:37:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:12] Speaker A: And a maid of his at one point. [00:37:14] Speaker B: Do we confirm that that is her mom? [00:37:16] Speaker A: Yes. [00:37:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I mean. [00:37:18] Speaker A: Or mistress. [00:37:19] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. But it. But it sounds like she was a maid. Paid, like, in his employee. Okay. Yeah. This is a HR violation there. Yeah. [00:37:29] Speaker A: Not reported. It's a very Me too situation. [00:37:32] Speaker B: Seriously. Yeah. [00:37:33] Speaker A: About 200 years. [00:37:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:35] Speaker A: Beforehand and. [00:37:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:38] Speaker A: I was just very sad that this poor little girl was very excited about getting a stepmom. And the stepmom was like, I want nothing to do with her. And as a matter of fact, I'm gonna, like, put her in a life of servitude. [00:37:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know that was sad. Bad. [00:37:51] Speaker A: But she makes a way out of no way. [00:37:53] Speaker B: She does. She does. She gets the, the, the dress and the, the mask and goes to the ball. [00:38:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Was not a great outfit choice there at the masquerade ball. Did not love. Did not. I mean, obviously it was a little bit outdated. [00:38:07] Speaker B: It was outdated. [00:38:08] Speaker A: The footman, the foot loved him. Loved him. A gay bff. He was. I'm gonna find this dress. [00:38:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, but he was, he was like, it's a little outdated, but it'll do. [00:38:20] Speaker A: This is fine for a masquerade ball. The. The mask was a little, like, wonky and weird. [00:38:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:38:26] Speaker A: But you know, they made it work. [00:38:27] Speaker B: They did. [00:38:27] Speaker A: Everything about the Cinderella story is the same. It's the evil stepmom, stepsisters for sure. She's working as a maid. She's got these magical, like, you know, sidekicks who basically, like, make her magical evening come to life. Life. And then she has to be home by 12. [00:38:44] Speaker B: There you go. [00:38:44] Speaker A: And she leaves behind a silk love. [00:38:46] Speaker B: Silk love. Yep, yep. [00:38:48] Speaker A: There is a glass slipper of sorts, but it doesn't, it doesn't. It doesn't play a role. Yeah, not really. It's the, it's the, the. Yeah, it's a step mom's, but it's the silk glove. Yes. Interesting fact for you. [00:39:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:05] Speaker A: This is what I wanted to talk about. [00:39:07] Speaker B: Okay. [00:39:08] Speaker A: Okay. So, Araminta, the stepmom. [00:39:10] Speaker B: The stepmom. Uh huh. I think I know where you're going. Yeah. [00:39:14] Speaker A: The woman in the house, the evil stepmom is played by Katie Lung. I think that's how you pronounce it. I apologize if I'm not pronouncing it correctly. This is the evil stepmother. She's an evil stepmother to two grown women, essentially. And I'd like to let you know that she is our age. [00:39:33] Speaker B: Yep. And Benedict is a year younger. Benedict, the guy who plays him is 37. [00:39:38] Speaker A: 88. [00:39:39] Speaker B: Yeah, 88. Literally. I think I looked him up. I think he has. The day before your birthday. Yeah, I know. Weird, right? [00:39:49] Speaker A: What's going on? Uh huh. Like, literally, I was like, this is a man of a certain age. Uh huh. [00:39:53] Speaker B: Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. [00:39:55] Speaker A: I can't do it. There is a disconnect. Between how I am viewing other people. [00:39:59] Speaker B: I know and how I view myself, what I'm seeing in there, I'm like. [00:40:02] Speaker A: I'm just a cute little teenage girl. [00:40:07] Speaker B: I'm just a girly girl. [00:40:09] Speaker A: I'm just a cool 18. Meanwhile, I was walking around. I know I was walking today and I walked past two teenage girls and I walked in front, I was walking Birdie and I was like, excuse me, you know, excuse us. And then I thought to myself, I was like, how do they view me? Are they like this woman, this old woman just watching. [00:40:27] Speaker B: I always think about that. I actually saw this video that was amazing. It was like, like this like man who's probably like maybe early 40s. And he was like, okay, I just passed two teenage boys and I heard them say, dude, that's gonna be us if we don't lock it in. Yes, I know. I'm always thinking about that. I'm like, what do they think of me? [00:40:50] Speaker A: I know. And I'm also always like, I always think of an incident goes down and they're like a 37 year old woman. [00:40:57] Speaker B: You know, you just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:40:58] Speaker A: You have an idea of a 37 year old woman and you're like, I'm. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Not that, that's not me. [00:41:07] Speaker A: Again. Time comes for us. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. Oh my God. You know what though? It's been like so far. But you know what though? I really kind of enjoy that Gen Zers like look really old. [00:41:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:23] Speaker B: Because then we're not having to deal with that like, oh my God, I'm sold. Because it's like they look old too. [00:41:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So got a little bit of time. [00:41:30] Speaker B: I know. [00:41:31] Speaker A: They've given us a little buffer. [00:41:32] Speaker B: They have. Cuz at like 25, they started looking 40. [00:41:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:38] Speaker B: You know what I mean? [00:41:38] Speaker A: So like where I it the screens. [00:41:40] Speaker B: It's the screens. It's the screens. Yeah. Poor Gen Z. Poor Gen Z Justice. You know, I'm a little bit like. [00:41:49] Speaker A: You didn't go through 911. Like. [00:41:50] Speaker B: I know, I know, I know. You probably didn't even watch My Girl and that's it. [00:41:55] Speaker A: Sorry. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Yeah. But you know what though? Okay, so here's what I was thinking. This is a little bit of a tangent, but I was reading, you know, I'm obsessed with the heated rivalry. So I was. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Did you know, had you heard? [00:42:08] Speaker B: So I was reading a substack article today that was talking about like how Gen Zers and you know this, like we've all read this. Gen Zers are like basically like think there's Too much sex in tv, you know, and they, like, turn it off. And. And what the article was explaining is like. Yeah, because it's violent. The sex they're seeing is so violent. And I was like, yeah. And the other thing is, you know, we've all read that, like, gen zers are having less sex because what they were seeing on the screen is violent. Like, I was thinking about this today and I was like, can you imagine? Like, paint the. Like, I'm. So. You're 12 years old. You don't, you know. You know what sex is, but you're like, you've never experienced or whatever. And you go to your friend's house and they've got fucking Game of Thrones on, you know, it's so messed up. Yeah. [00:42:56] Speaker A: God forbid. Or they have, like, pornhub porn. [00:42:59] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:43:00] Speaker A: Nothing but straight violence on there. [00:43:02] Speaker B: I mean, literally. And so. So, yeah, so I'm like, a little bit like, I feel bad for them. [00:43:08] Speaker A: I know. [00:43:09] Speaker B: But, you know. Yeah. I don't know. So they. They really. They had it hard. We did, too, with 9, 11. But in 2008, too. The crash. [00:43:19] Speaker A: Just trying to make a way out of nowhere. [00:43:20] Speaker B: Buy a home. Turning 40. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Turning 40. Parents needing surgery. Like, what's going on? [00:43:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know. It's really bad. Our dog's getting older. I can't talk about it. [00:43:34] Speaker A: No, I won't talk about it. I refuse to talk about it. Birdie, like, on the. On the paperwork for the vet last year, maybe the year before, they're always, you know, it's like an update of all the vaccines. And then at the bottom, it's like, you know, upcoming or like your next appointment. And it was like 2026 senior health exam. [00:43:54] Speaker B: I don't buy. I don't believe it. I don't. Yep. [00:43:56] Speaker A: I don't respect it. Not for a newborn baby. [00:43:58] Speaker B: No, you've got it wrong. Not for an infant. What are you talking about? [00:44:03] Speaker A: You've got it wrong. I'm sorry. No, I don't think so. And I. I mean, at least for smaller dogs, they're not really considered senior till much later. But we were at the dog park this week. What? A roundabout from Sophie. But we were at the dog park this week and we met a dog. And he. He was spry and he was cute and he was, you know, like, probably a little bit bigger than Birdie. Like, like a little Scottish terrier kind of looking dog. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, the dog was 15 years old, having a great time out there. His Name was like Bogart or something. He had his jacket on and he was out there with this older man. And so another dog, mom of Rosie came over. Me and Rosie's mom were standing there. Her name is Paula. Pretty sure her name's Paula. Paula. God bless you, fast friends. Anyway, Paula was like, what's the secret? You know, because her dog Rosie's about seven, Birdie's obviously six. [00:44:56] Speaker B: Okay. [00:44:57] Speaker A: And Bogart goes, this is my daughter in law's dog. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Okay. [00:45:02] Speaker A: She's had him since she was a puppy. And I'd say probably just, you know, she spoils him to death. I said, well, we're halfway there. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Yep, yep, yep. [00:45:08] Speaker A: We're halfway there. If that's the magic ticket, she's. She's immortal. [00:45:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh, for sure. I mean, I'm still hoping for some kind of medicine in that comes out. [00:45:19] Speaker A: That like, I want some sort of like soul tie where it's like I go. You go. [00:45:24] Speaker B: I know, I know. Yeah. And it's like, if I go in five years, you go in five years. If I go in 50, you go in 50. [00:45:31] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:32] Speaker A: It's just boom, bam. [00:45:34] Speaker B: I know, I know. [00:45:35] Speaker A: And you know, I don't like to be anywhere Birdie's not. [00:45:37] Speaker B: I know, I know. I saw this video and they have so many videos like this, but there was like a. Some kind of cartoon that was like, just, just like crying. And it was like, this is me thinking about my dog dying when he's very much alive and well in the next room. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Me. I know. At least three times a week. [00:45:54] Speaker B: I know, I know. It's so sad. Let's get back to Sophie. Cause I can't handle this. [00:46:00] Speaker A: Okay, you made an interesting point. They have a little jaunt to a cottage. [00:46:04] Speaker B: Yeah. It's literally. It's very weird. It's called My cottage. Like, literally they're outside the door, like trying to get in, and there's a sign that says my cottage. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:16] Speaker B: So I don't really understand it. It's very weird. It was like a very weird detail, but whatever. Yeah, but that. But people are making comparisons to the cottage. I'm coming to the cottage. [00:46:26] Speaker A: Very serendipitous that this was in this season. [00:46:29] Speaker B: Yes. [00:46:29] Speaker A: They didn't even know. [00:46:30] Speaker B: But it's unfortunate for Bridgerton because it's like another parallel where it's like, you didn't really. [00:46:35] Speaker A: You're missing the mark. [00:46:36] Speaker B: Yeah, you're missing the mark. And like. Let's go back and rewatch episode six. [00:46:40] Speaker A: This is not the same cabin that they're giving you in. [00:46:43] Speaker B: No. [00:46:45] Speaker A: The wilderness of Canada. [00:46:47] Speaker B: Not. Not even close. Not even close. [00:46:49] Speaker A: Our girl is going in there. She has to labor. [00:46:51] Speaker B: I know. Yeah. She keeps, like, trying to clear dishes. And she's. Yeah. [00:46:55] Speaker A: And he's like, what is this wonderful creature who sees the wonder in everything? [00:47:02] Speaker B: Can we talk about. And I don't know if you saw this or you read about it. [00:47:06] Speaker A: Sure, go ahead. Hit me. [00:47:08] Speaker B: So he gets, like, injured, you know, like, in the. Yeah. So he gets injured, and then he. [00:47:13] Speaker A: Goes in the scuffle. Because he was trying to save. [00:47:16] Speaker B: Save. [00:47:16] Speaker A: Save her. [00:47:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Right. [00:47:17] Speaker B: Basically, yeah. [00:47:18] Speaker A: From being assaulted. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Well, no, her. Her friend, like, her colleague. [00:47:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:21] Speaker B: Whatever was being. You know. And so she stood up for whatever. So anyway, he gets hurt, and then he keeps saying, like, no, I'm okay. I'm okay. And so, like, they. You know, she. She's. He sets her up, like. And he's like, you stay in the guest room. These are my sister's dresses. Like, whatever. And then she hears him, like, screaming in the middle of the night, like, screaming. And she, you know, gets her little candle. [00:47:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:49] Speaker B: And, like. [00:47:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Nightgown. [00:47:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Like. Like rushes over and is like, Lord, you know. [00:47:55] Speaker A: My Lord. [00:47:59] Speaker B: Sir, are you okay? Are you okay? [00:48:01] Speaker A: Well, gangrene is. Plague has gotten in, like, at this stage in. In the world. Where are we with antibiotics? [00:48:12] Speaker B: Nowhere near. [00:48:13] Speaker A: Nowhere near. Give him the hemlock. [00:48:16] Speaker B: Jonah Salk has not been born yet. We are not there. [00:48:22] Speaker A: Anywhere. [00:48:23] Speaker B: You're dying. We should bring him into the next season. [00:48:29] Speaker A: I fucking see. You're so smart, and your information is just so neat. I know. Call him up. [00:48:49] Speaker B: I don't know why I know that. [00:48:51] Speaker A: Let's bring him in. [00:48:53] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Yeah. Well, okay. Deidre is dying. [00:49:01] Speaker A: Go ahead. [00:49:02] Speaker B: Yes. [00:49:03] Speaker A: So. [00:49:04] Speaker B: So, okay. So she comes in with her little candle, and she's like. She's like, are you okay? And he's writhing in bed. You know, he's like. [00:49:14] Speaker A: He's got to bed 30 minutes ago. [00:49:16] Speaker B: I mean, it's crazy, right? But the thing is, like, it's, like, in. It wasn't even really that big of a wound. Like, it made no sense. And he was, like, kind of, like, you know, disoriented. And she. He basically was like, okay. And, like, went and got, like, a small, you know, piece of fabric and wrapped it around him. And then all of a sudden, he's better, you know? Like, the next morning, it's like, oh, no, I'm good. Like, let's go home. And it just doesn't, like, didn't make any sense. If it was infectious, he'd be dead. [00:49:48] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, Rip Jonas wasn't born 37 years old. [00:49:53] Speaker B: Yeah. But it was weird. Yeah, it was weird. [00:50:02] Speaker A: But okay, so she. Okay, she saves him, and then they have this, like, magical, like, week. [00:50:08] Speaker B: Right. [00:50:09] Speaker A: At the cottage. [00:50:09] Speaker B: At the cottage. I also feel like the chemistry was not there. [00:50:13] Speaker A: No. They had zero chemistry. [00:50:14] Speaker B: Zero. [00:50:15] Speaker A: Zero. Have there ever been characters on Bridgerton that have had good chemistry? [00:50:18] Speaker B: So I. Okay. So I think people's favorite. Well, you know what? The first season. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:24] Speaker B: Renee. Whatever his name is. And, I mean, it was a little weird because, like, she looked like his daughter. You know, she was, like, very, very young. [00:50:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:33] Speaker B: But, like, then Jonathan Bailey, God bless him, he could have chemistry with everyone, but the woman who was. He, like, just was not a good actress. [00:50:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Speaking about Renee Jean. [00:50:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:47] Speaker A: What genre? A random. [00:50:53] Speaker B: We are not allowed to publish this. [00:50:56] Speaker A: I'm gonna have to listen to it with a fine tooth comb. He's gonna. He has a movie coming out that we absolutely will need to go see. It's called Yumi in Tuscany. [00:51:08] Speaker B: Wait, I think I did. We saw this in the trailer. Yes, I think. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Yes. And the previews are now starting to roll out on tv, so it's becoming a little bit more of an imminent thing. And we will be. [00:51:18] Speaker B: We will be watching y. Yep. [00:51:21] Speaker A: Ideally at Alamo Drafthouse. [00:51:23] Speaker B: Yep. Exactly. We should get tickets now. [00:51:26] Speaker A: I know. Well, whatever. That's a whole separate topic. Alamo. No. Well, all the tickets for the movies we've been wanting to see have been selling out. [00:51:34] Speaker B: We literally have to, like, if. Day. Day. I think that's what Clark does. He's like, the morning they come out, and he's like, let's do it. [00:51:40] Speaker A: I'm like, how were you so on top of things? [00:51:42] Speaker B: I know. God bless him. Going to the. The hockey game last night. I loved it. [00:51:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Great for him. Love that. And the team won. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:50] Speaker A: Lovely power dynamics between the two. Right. We hate it. Let's talk a little bit about how it ultimately, like, comes to an end. [00:52:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:01] Speaker A: And the power dynamics that are at play there. [00:52:04] Speaker B: So, okay, so basically, they go. They come back from my cottage, and he's like, I'm gonna find you a job. And she. He's like, okay. And so they go. And then he parks. And the. The carriage situation is really ridiculous, too, because, like, I put this in the. In, you know, my notes. I was like, what is this? Like, not them riding in a Waymo carriage. You know, they're basically like, he. When you ride in a carriage. Like, don't you have to have reins and stuff? He doesn't do anything. And it's like, how does that. How do the horses know where to go? Whatever. [00:52:36] Speaker A: You're like, it's not for me to figure out. [00:52:38] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe you guys should have, like, paid attention to that. But so anyway, so he. They go to the ton, and also. [00:52:46] Speaker A: It feels, like, very broke that they don't have a. Carry a covered carriage. [00:52:49] Speaker B: It does. You're right, it does. I know, I know. It's giving rural. [00:52:56] Speaker A: It's giving broke boy. It's giving. [00:52:58] Speaker B: Yeah. It's giving country boy. Yeah, yeah. Which apparently, like, whatever. Anyway. [00:53:05] Speaker A: Yeah, whatever. [00:53:08] Speaker B: So, okay, so then they go to, you know, and he stops in front of his house, and she's like, isn't this your house? And he's like, yeah, this is where I got you the job as a maid in his own fucking mansion. [00:53:21] Speaker A: So hate it. And he's looking at her like, what's the problem? Yes, we just made out by the lake and I have you a job here. Aren't you happy? [00:53:28] Speaker B: And there are like, a couple other very uncomfortable moments where he's like, you know, he finds her in the room, and then it's like, this is not. This is not okay. [00:53:39] Speaker A: And there's a. Somebody talks to him about this. This. Don't they. Aren't they like his mom? I think so. Maybe. [00:53:45] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. I mean, there's. There's definitely. Like, he's still looking for the woman. [00:53:49] Speaker A: And everybody's like, give it up. [00:53:51] Speaker B: Everybody's like, just. Jesus Christ. And so, like. But then, like, there's his mom, like, thinks she's found the girl. So she comes in, is talking to him, and then Sophie comes in, like, to. To serve tea, basically spills it and spills it. And then he does this weird thing where he's like, leave it. Leave it. Like. Yeah. In a very, like. Yeah. Angry way. And then basically she's like, don't this up for me. Like, this is. I. You know, it was like, the first, like, family environment she's ever had. She loves it there. [00:54:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:25] Speaker B: And she's like, why are you here all the time? Like, go back to your bachelor pad or whatever. [00:54:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:30] Speaker B: And then he's like. He decides, like, he's going to do that. But then it leads to this moment. Moment. She's really happy. She's, like, going out with her friends to the tavern for the first time. [00:54:39] Speaker A: Because Mama Bridgerton is. [00:54:41] Speaker B: Because Mama Bridgerton is getting it in. I loved that. [00:54:46] Speaker A: Yeah. With Lady Danbury's brother, Marcus. [00:54:49] Speaker B: Good looking man. [00:54:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:50] Speaker B: So. And I mean, especially for his age, he. He like. And now this is probably a body double or whatever, but, like, no, he looks good. [00:54:59] Speaker A: Oh, great. [00:55:00] Speaker B: So. And she loves that for her, too. [00:55:01] Speaker A: We love that for her. She looks great the whole show. She's pining for this man. [00:55:05] Speaker B: Pining. Yeah. [00:55:06] Speaker A: And she thinks it's a secret. Meanwhile, the maid staff is like, if you don't move it on. [00:55:10] Speaker B: You know what the thing is, like, they had more chemistry than the other, like, totally. They totally had a lot of chemistry. [00:55:15] Speaker A: He didn't say one word. [00:55:15] Speaker B: He didn't. He didn't. And she was like, so nervous. But anyway, so the, like, what is it? [00:55:23] Speaker A: Like the. [00:55:23] Speaker B: The final scene? Not the final scene, but like the final, like, major scene. They hook up in the stairwell, Sophie and Benedict, and basically he's like, you consume me. I can't stop thinking about you. You think it's gonna be like. Because in. In previous Bridgerton seasons, it's like once they hook up, it's like, okay, well, they're together. They're together. You know, like, I took your. Whatever. [00:55:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:47] Speaker B: And so like, like the brother was gonna duel the first guy because, like, he found them together. [00:55:54] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:55:54] Speaker B: Hooking up. Anyway, so you're like, this is what's gonna happen. He's gonna be like, you marry me. And he goes, goes, sophie, be my mistress. [00:56:03] Speaker A: No. [00:56:04] Speaker B: And I, like, I just said a lot. I was like that. Are you kidding me? Especially, like, after having watched I'm Coming to the Cottage. [00:56:14] Speaker A: Yeah. No, and that's a really interesting thing because you're a little bit like, are we. Were we supposed to find that romantic? [00:56:21] Speaker B: I know, I know. That's crazy. [00:56:24] Speaker A: Were we supposed to be like, yeah. Or were we supposed to walk away from this being like cliffhanger? Because this is not a good situation. But part of me is like, oh, I want them to be together, so. [00:56:34] Speaker B: Let'S make this work. I know, I know. I hate it. Honestly, I hate it. [00:56:38] Speaker A: Don't settle for that, girl. Do not settle for that. [00:56:40] Speaker B: You know what? It's going to end up happening, I bet, is that. [00:56:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. [00:56:45] Speaker B: When I watch it and you. Yeah. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Predictions for part two. [00:56:49] Speaker B: So I. And I haven't read the book, so I think what's going to happen is that, like, it's going to find. They're going to find out that she's a legitimate daughter of a nobleman and then it's okay for them to be together and then they'll get married. [00:57:01] Speaker A: And I think you're right on. [00:57:03] Speaker B: I. I hate it. [00:57:04] Speaker A: I think you're right on. I think they're gonna be like, she's actually the legitimate daughter of this passed away Lord or whatever lady. Her inheritance was stolen from her. [00:57:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:57:14] Speaker A: And then all of a sudden, she's gonna come out looking gorgeous. [00:57:17] Speaker B: Right, right. And all of her finery. [00:57:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And her staff, like, her. The footmen, whatever, they're gonna be her people. [00:57:23] Speaker B: Right, right, right. And which is also kind of weird because it's like. Then all of a sudden. [00:57:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. [00:57:29] Speaker B: I will say there was one thing I read which was really interesting. So the. Somebody picked up on the fact. So when Michaela came in the end, they were like, hate her. Her clothes. Because she, like, basically her. And then Lady Jamboree, I guess, like, there was like, the clothes are kind of drab and, like, darker colors. And so that was like, people were like, that's not okay. Plus Simone, Ashley. I think people were also saying that they're. They're. Her clothes were darker. And then, like, some of the white actors who had, like, these bright, colorful clothes. [00:58:04] Speaker A: Yeah, well, the. You know, the clip I saw of Michaela getting out of the carriage, I was like, why does she look like she's wearing some iron dress? [00:58:12] Speaker B: Exactly. Yes. And I mean, so people were like. [00:58:15] Speaker A: Not when everybody else literally looks like an Easter egg. [00:58:18] Speaker B: Exactly. Yes. Yes. And I mean, it's not even as bad as, like. Like the Featheringtons, like, how. How bad they were in the first couple of seasons, but. [00:58:27] Speaker A: Yeah. In terms of racism. [00:58:28] Speaker B: No, no, no. In terms of, like, they would wear these bright lime green. Yeah, it was bad. That was like, part of the story was that they were bad dressers, but. Yeah. [00:58:37] Speaker A: Do any of the Featheringtons get married off or what's the deal with that? [00:58:40] Speaker B: Well, Penelope is a Featherington. [00:58:42] Speaker A: Oh, is she? Okay. [00:58:42] Speaker B: Yeah. So she is the youngest. And, you know, basically, that was kind of a Cinderella thing, too. Like, her. She's got older sisters that are, like, you know, I don't know, just, like, mean to her. And she's Lady Whistledown. [00:58:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:56] Speaker B: So, yeah, I mean, I actually did like that. The Mrs. Varley and the. Yeah, I liked that. I think there was, like, a good. A mix of, like. Okay, let's. Let's, like, talk about these power dynamics that then they don't work out. It doesn't. It doesn't seem like they work them out. [00:59:14] Speaker A: It's interesting because I feel like the evil stepmother. Sophie's evil stepmother. [00:59:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:21] Speaker A: Is paying all these maids to come work with her with Sophie's inheritance and. [00:59:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:26] Speaker A: Cuz, where's all this extra money coming from? How do you have all this money. [00:59:30] Speaker B: And nobody else does and move to the. [00:59:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:32] Speaker B: Like next to the Bridgertons. [00:59:35] Speaker A: And so I'll be interested. For things to get exposed and I hope that. What's the sweet stepsister's name? [00:59:41] Speaker B: Posey. [00:59:42] Speaker A: Posey. [00:59:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:43] Speaker A: Posy comes into the fold. Old. [00:59:44] Speaker B: I love it. You know, I read something that was like, I. This girl was like, I love it. That we've all collectively decided to make one of the stepsisters of Cinderella the nice one. Because I don't think that. What? In the original story, I think they were both me. [00:59:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:57] Speaker B: Yeah. But like, since then, I've seen a lot of renditions where it's like, one has been like, nice and kind of. Yeah. [01:00:04] Speaker A: What about in Drew Barrymore's Never After? [01:00:07] Speaker B: Ever After? [01:00:07] Speaker A: Ever After. Sorry. Ever After. [01:00:09] Speaker B: Okay. I tried to get my niece to watch that. [01:00:12] Speaker A: She wasn't feeling it. [01:00:13] Speaker B: She. I showed her the. The. The trailer and I was like, oh, my God, it's so beautiful. And my sister was dying. She was like. She was like, this is a little insight into Jillian's psyche, like, what she loves. And I was like, yes. [01:00:27] Speaker A: Are you kidding me? It's a lot of Inya's Caribbean Blue in there. Yes. [01:00:31] Speaker B: It's like. [01:00:34] Speaker A: It. [01:00:34] Speaker B: Drew Barrymore. It was amazing. [01:00:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:37] Speaker B: But anyways. [01:00:38] Speaker A: But wasn't there one stepsister in that that was a little nice? I think so. [01:00:41] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah. [01:00:42] Speaker A: What's her name? She's in a lot of things. [01:00:45] Speaker B: Oh, you know what? I saw her. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. [01:00:48] Speaker A: I think she's nice. [01:00:49] Speaker B: She's. She's nice. She's. She's in, like, a lot. She's in, like, one, like, movie about a high school. I don't know. [01:00:54] Speaker A: She's in Sweet Home Alabama. It's the woman that Drew Barrymore is like, you have a baby? [01:00:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, my God, I love that. I love that movie. [01:01:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. First of all. Yes. Let's take a moment to talk about Sweet Home Alabama, please. First of all, she leaves this man, as she should have, because he was trash. She goes up to New York. She's like, I'm gonna make a life of it. Those people down there in Alabama are trash. Never to be seen again. So sad. She doesn't, you know. [01:01:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:21] Speaker A: You got to see your. Your parents. Yeah. [01:01:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:01:23] Speaker A: She goes down there because she's not fully divorced and she's marrying some high powered New Yorker. Patrick Dempsey at his absolute best in this film is. [01:01:32] Speaker B: I mean that was like peak. [01:01:34] Speaker A: He doesn't look bad now. [01:01:35] Speaker B: He doesn't look bad now. [01:01:36] Speaker A: You're right. [01:01:37] Speaker B: He's come back. Yeah. [01:01:38] Speaker A: About 23 years on, I gotta say. No, still on top. [01:01:41] Speaker B: Yep. [01:01:43] Speaker A: And so anyway, she goes back down to get her ex husband to sign papers. It seems like he's still trash. [01:01:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:51] Speaker A: What's his name? [01:01:52] Speaker B: I don't know. What's his name in real life? [01:01:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:56] Speaker B: J. No, I'll look him up. [01:01:58] Speaker A: Something, whatever. [01:01:59] Speaker B: Something with a J. Yeah. [01:02:00] Speaker A: But let me tell you. [01:02:00] Speaker B: Josh. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Josh. Yeah. Yes, I did love the fact that she's like, this man has a. A glass company, a restaurant. Like he is do. I was like, actually, no. [01:02:14] Speaker B: You know what, though? I wouldn't get in that plane. [01:02:17] Speaker A: You're not getting me in a skipper. You're not getting me in a Skipper. I'll. I'm hopping in the pickup truck. I'll meet you down the road. [01:02:23] Speaker B: For sure. For sure. Not getting in there. I'd rather swim. [01:02:26] Speaker A: I'd rather swim with the gators than you put me in a dance damn river. Skipper. [01:02:32] Speaker B: I had a, like, I had a dream like recently that I. I was forced to go on a small airplane. [01:02:38] Speaker A: Oh. [01:02:39] Speaker B: When I tell you, I was so afraid. [01:02:41] Speaker A: That's why I'm like, I don't know if I could be famous. I'm not getting on one of those small private planes. [01:02:45] Speaker B: God, no. No. I mean, no. If it was a big private plane, then fine. But yeah, like, I think if I. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Were that rich and famous, I would just buy a big commercial plane. [01:02:54] Speaker B: Me too. Me too. [01:02:55] Speaker A: And then I would just make my plans, be like this big commercial plane, flies me one time over here. And then I just take local transportation among, like the areas I have to go. It. It's just gonna have to take us longer. [01:03:07] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you know what I would do? You could get the big commercial airplane and then like when you're not using it, have like, have them take people around. You know what I mean? Just save. [01:03:16] Speaker A: I don't want a dog print. [01:03:18] Speaker B: Me too, me too. As big as you want. [01:03:21] Speaker A: I. You know what? That is what I would do with my money. I'd be like, take this plane, go get some people in areas that are not economically well off. Bunch of people who need medical help. [01:03:31] Speaker B: Yes. [01:03:32] Speaker A: Bring them to. I mean, who knows, they can come to the United States now. But in, in a better world. [01:03:38] Speaker B: Right, right. [01:03:38] Speaker A: Bring them to the United States, get them the care that they need, and then like just do that until I need the plane again. [01:03:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, and I'll wait. I'm not taking a small plane. Not doing it. [01:03:51] Speaker A: Like, I worry about that. Like, let's say you go on vacation. They're like, oh, to get to that island out there, you got to get on this, like, get in this cardboard box. [01:03:58] Speaker B: No, put me on a boat. I, I, we're not going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there's no way. There's no way. No, I know, yeah. Anyway, where do we, where are we going? [01:04:10] Speaker A: Mistress. [01:04:11] Speaker B: Be my mistress. [01:04:14] Speaker A: It's a no for me, dog. [01:04:16] Speaker B: What's that? What did you say before? That dog doesn't bark or something. [01:04:20] Speaker A: That dog don't hunt. That dog don't hunt. You know who I, I heard say that recently? I sent you pictures of, of Sam Elliott, the actor. Sam Elliott, who has always been way older than is appropriate for me to be into. Sam Elliott in Roadhouse with a Patrick Swayze. [01:04:40] Speaker B: It's like Ed Harris for me. [01:04:42] Speaker A: Ejected. [01:04:42] Speaker B: I know, it's, oh my God, that is like Ed Harris. I, and when I saw him in Stepmom is like a 16 year old or whatever. However old I was, I was like, that is my man. [01:04:54] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. It's a Southern colloquialism, meaning an idea, plan, excuse, or art argument will not work. It ain't gonna work. [01:05:01] Speaker B: That dog don't hunt. [01:05:02] Speaker A: That dog don't hunt. That dog won't hunt. And I heard Sam Elliott say it in Roadhouse and I was like, you know what, Samuel, thank you for bringing that back to me. I appreciate that. I will be using it in a near, at a near date. Sam Harris. Yes, excellent choice. [01:05:20] Speaker B: You mean Ed Harris. [01:05:21] Speaker A: Ed Harris, yeah, Ed Harris, excellent choice. Ed Harrison. Milk money. [01:05:25] Speaker B: I mean, he's always looked 15 years older than he. I mean, I, at this point, I don't know how old he is because he's always looked older. [01:05:32] Speaker A: Way, way older than I should have been into in 1993. Who are some older men? [01:05:37] Speaker B: I was into Robert Redford, Bruce Willis. Bruce Willis, really? Bruce Willis was not one of mine. I mean, he was a good looking man. But like for me it was Robert Redford. Paul Newman. Yeah, Paul Newman at that. I mean, there's nobody who beats him. [01:05:52] Speaker A: Yes, I would say Robert Redford. There's a point though, after there's a certain age at which I didn't see it for Robert Redford anymore. You Know what I'm saying? [01:06:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:06:01] Speaker A: But I would also say who. [01:06:06] Speaker B: I mean, Patrick Sway. He was older. [01:06:08] Speaker A: Yes. Warren Beatty. Really? A little bit. [01:06:13] Speaker B: Okay. No, I wasn't Warren Beatty. Yeah. I could see Jack Nicholson. [01:06:16] Speaker A: You're on your own. You're on your own with that. [01:06:20] Speaker B: I had Jack Nicholson. Yep. [01:06:23] Speaker A: Who else? You know, in his younger days. Younger days. So he is still older, but doesn't look cute older. I. It. I could see it a little bit for Alucino. I see what I could. I see. [01:06:36] Speaker B: What, from the Godfather. Yeah, absolutely. [01:06:38] Speaker A: I see. I see what our girl saw. [01:06:40] Speaker B: 100%. Yeah, I know our girl. Yeah. No, I. I definitely agree with you. I was never into Robert De Niro. [01:06:47] Speaker A: No. [01:06:47] Speaker B: Now, I didn't really see him in, like. Yeah, they're like. [01:06:52] Speaker A: He's one of those where, like, not generally, but if you catch him in a certain, like, angle. [01:06:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I can see that. [01:06:58] Speaker A: Yeah, you can see it. [01:06:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:00] Speaker A: This is a great conversation. This actually brings me to being like, who are the ones? [01:07:10] Speaker B: I don't know. We should dedicate a whole episode to this. [01:07:13] Speaker A: Yes. Okay. Well, there. Well, you know, George Clooney is the one. [01:07:16] Speaker B: I know. I mean, I. That was my. The first one. Yeah, but, like, older, older, older. Yeah. Like, people are into Marlon Brando. I can't think of him other than the man in. What's that movie with Martin Sheen that was based off of Heart of Darkness, Apocalypse Now. [01:07:39] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Okay. [01:07:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:41] Speaker A: Jeff Goldblum. [01:07:42] Speaker B: I. I mean, he still does it for me. [01:07:45] Speaker A: They're giving us a whole bunch of young men. I'm like, not him. [01:07:48] Speaker B: He's young. No, no, but you really know Jacqueline Nicholson. [01:07:54] Speaker A: No, not for me. I'm sorry. It's. It. [01:07:56] Speaker B: I know him and Meryl Streep in that one movie, Heartburn. But you know who you're a little bit into? Billy. Billy Crystal. [01:08:08] Speaker A: We need to. We need to. We need to qualify this a little bit. [01:08:13] Speaker B: In cities like ours. [01:08:15] Speaker A: When Harry Met Sally. [01:08:16] Speaker B: Oh, When Harry Met Sally. Yeah. [01:08:17] Speaker A: There. I'm not saying the whole film. I am saying there is a particular moment in which they are out shopping together. And he's got these jeans on. He's got a pair of sneakers, and he's got, like, a cape and knit sweater and he's got just enough of a beard and his hair is good enough. Like, you know, like, you know, I love a man with texture. [01:08:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:35] Speaker A: Yeah. I love a little curl to it because I'm like, what's. What's going on in that? [01:08:39] Speaker B: What's Going on. Yeah. You need to put your fingers through it. [01:08:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to put my fingers through it. And I'm also a little bit like, there's something in there. [01:08:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. [01:08:45] Speaker A: What's going on? But also the fact that he was like sharp, like mentally sharp. [01:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Funny and like a dry humor. He was. [01:08:54] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. I'm like, honey, I. Yeah, no, I can see him. [01:08:58] Speaker A: I know you may be five, three. [01:08:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, but I see it. I know, I see it. He was. I mean, unfortunately for him, he was not like a leading man type, you know, but. Yeah. Well, should we get into a little game? [01:09:16] Speaker A: Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, I think that's right. I think it's time we. Right. Our own little Regency era romance. [01:09:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, here's what I was thinking. We could do first. We could create our names. Our Regency era names. [01:09:30] Speaker A: Okay. What are the rules? [01:09:31] Speaker B: Okay, so it's going to be lady. [01:09:34] Speaker A: And I have a piece of paper. [01:09:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:09:36] Speaker A: Thank you. Okay, Lady. Got it. [01:09:41] Speaker B: So Lord or lady. Lady. [01:09:46] Speaker A: What is it? [01:09:47] Speaker B: Okay, lady. Middle name. [01:09:50] Speaker A: Okay. [01:09:53] Speaker B: Okay. Middle name. And last. The last thing you drank. So we're going to both be Diet Coke. [01:10:02] Speaker A: Well, I'm going to. Okay, let's. I'm going to change it up because we can't both be Diet Coke. [01:10:08] Speaker B: Mine was water before. Should I do water? [01:10:11] Speaker A: Are you. [01:10:11] Speaker B: I'll do Diet Coke. [01:10:12] Speaker A: Okay, you do Diet Coke. I'm going to do. I'm going to do a. Like a. A imbibed beverage. [01:10:23] Speaker B: Imbibed? [01:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah, like alcohol. [01:10:26] Speaker B: Okay. Was that where you were drinking today? [01:10:28] Speaker A: No. [01:10:28] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Do that, do that. And then add ton to it. So. And then of. And the street you grew up on, street you grew up on ending in Shire. [01:10:44] Speaker A: I grew up on multiple streets. Hold on. [01:10:46] Speaker B: What do you think is like the most. [01:10:49] Speaker A: Yeah, okay, I'll do it. My parents. My parents. [01:10:52] Speaker B: Let me hear you. [01:10:53] Speaker A: Ready? [01:10:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:54] Speaker A: Lady Ray Cosmopolitan of Roystonshot. [01:10:59] Speaker B: I love it. Okay. Mine is. And if I had used water. Water. It would have been too bad because Lady Kathleen Diacopetan of Dunleeshire Sophie was Lady Kathleen Waterton. I mean, it would be too much. [01:11:16] Speaker A: That'd be great. [01:11:16] Speaker B: It would be too much. [01:11:17] Speaker A: I love that. I love that. Lady Ray. [01:11:21] Speaker B: Lady Ray. Lady Kathleen. Okay, let's do the game. [01:11:26] Speaker A: Okay. [01:11:26] Speaker B: We're about to do a game of. [01:11:28] Speaker A: Mash and I'm asking you. You're asking me? [01:11:32] Speaker B: I'm asking you. [01:11:33] Speaker A: Okay. [01:11:34] Speaker B: What things? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Yeah. Okay. So let's do where you end up living. So an example would be Bridgerton House. So, like, no privacy. A crumbling estate abroad. [01:11:51] Speaker A: Okay. [01:11:52] Speaker B: So what? Give me four. [01:11:53] Speaker A: Okay. I'm doing a mansion, like, right in that neighborhood. [01:11:58] Speaker B: Okay. In the ton. Huh. [01:12:02] Speaker A: I'm doing an apartment. [01:12:04] Speaker B: Okay. [01:12:05] Speaker A: In London. East London. [01:12:08] Speaker B: Okay. [01:12:11] Speaker A: I'm doing a shack. [01:12:13] Speaker B: Okay. [01:12:14] Speaker A: In the highlands. [01:12:15] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:12:18] Speaker A: And I'm doing a house abroad. [01:12:22] Speaker B: House abroad. Okay. House abroad. [01:12:25] Speaker A: Okay. [01:12:27] Speaker B: Let's see who you end up with. So, like, the hot one who refuses to. You can. You can make care. You can just say characters. [01:12:35] Speaker A: Okay. We're gonna go with. We're gonna go with Benedict. [01:12:39] Speaker B: Huh? [01:12:41] Speaker A: What was. [01:12:42] Speaker B: Anthony. [01:12:43] Speaker A: Anthony. We're bringing him back. He's divorced. [01:12:46] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, that's. [01:12:48] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, we're doing Marcus. Oh, you can't have him. Not you. What's her name? [01:12:55] Speaker B: Violet. [01:12:55] Speaker A: Violet. She can't. And then we're gonna do. Who else are we gonna do? [01:13:05] Speaker B: One of, like, the Mondrich guy. [01:13:08] Speaker A: He's cute, too. [01:13:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:11] Speaker A: Let's do a. [01:13:12] Speaker B: Or Colin or her. [01:13:14] Speaker A: Let's do a. Like a new lord from abroad. [01:13:19] Speaker B: New lord from abroad. You know who? I also did like that. That footman John in the Bridgerton house. Oh, he, like, had that, like. Like, wig on. Yeah. [01:13:29] Speaker A: I see the. I see the vision. [01:13:30] Speaker B: Vision. New lord from abroad. Abroad. [01:13:34] Speaker A: Okay. [01:13:37] Speaker B: Now let's do. Okay. Your primary season four scandal. So accidentally engaged. Caught kissing in the hallway. A letter is published that was very private. Things like that. [01:13:47] Speaker A: Can't reach the pinnacle. [01:13:49] Speaker B: Can't reach the pinnacle. Okay. So sad. [01:13:53] Speaker A: Caught snogging in the wine cellar. [01:14:00] Speaker B: Okay. [01:14:02] Speaker A: Caught alone with a man. Unchecked, Chaperoned. Okay. [01:14:07] Speaker B: Hold on. Wine cellar. Caught alone. Okay. All right. [01:14:16] Speaker A: Sneaking into a ball. Okay. [01:14:22] Speaker B: Let's see. Okay. Your ball behavior. So could be shares and stares, intent, intensely across the room. Leaves early, causes chaos. Dances like it's personal. Or refuses to dance. [01:14:39] Speaker A: Let's see. Flirts with all the. The married men. [01:14:44] Speaker B: Okay. [01:14:47] Speaker A: Let's see. Gives a lap dance to the king. [01:14:56] Speaker B: Okay. Comes. [01:15:05] Speaker A: Takes a shot and leaves early. [01:15:07] Speaker B: Okay. Takes a shot. Okay. [01:15:17] Speaker A: Make a public accusation that I'm pregnant. [01:15:22] Speaker B: Oh. [01:15:22] Speaker A: And. And it's Benedict's baby. [01:15:30] Speaker B: He'd still say, be my mistress. Yeah. [01:15:33] Speaker A: Can't be serious. [01:15:33] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. And then let's see how the season ends for you. So married, but emotionally exhausted, engaged, shocked and feral in love. Unwell about it. Things like that. [01:15:52] Speaker A: Married and reaching the pinnacle. [01:15:54] Speaker B: Okay. [01:15:58] Speaker A: Single and wealthy. On the run. [01:16:04] Speaker B: On the run. On the lamb. [01:16:07] Speaker A: Okay. On the shelf. [01:16:11] Speaker B: Okay. On the shelf. Okay. I've never Written so fast in my life. [01:16:17] Speaker A: I know. [01:16:18] Speaker B: On the shelf and on the run. [01:16:22] Speaker A: Yep. Okay. [01:16:23] Speaker B: Pick a number between one and seven. [01:16:27] Speaker A: Six. [01:16:28] Speaker B: Six. Okay. Okay. Oh, look at you. Okay. [01:16:33] Speaker A: A good life. [01:16:34] Speaker B: Good life. Okay, so Lady Ray of. [01:16:38] Speaker A: Lady Ray. Cosmopolitan. [01:16:39] Speaker B: Cosmopolitan of Roysensure. Okay. You live in a mansion in the town. [01:16:50] Speaker A: She is wealthy. [01:16:51] Speaker B: She is wealthy. She is. You are with a new lord from abroad, but you can't reach the pinnacle. [01:17:02] Speaker A: Soccer. [01:17:02] Speaker B: You flirt. Soccer. I know. [01:17:05] Speaker A: That's not to say. That's not to say. Can't do it myself. [01:17:08] Speaker B: I know. Even a lord from abroad, you don't. [01:17:10] Speaker A: Know, but he is good to look at. [01:17:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Flirts with married men. [01:17:15] Speaker A: And hopefully they can get me there. [01:17:17] Speaker B: I know. Well. And you know what? [01:17:19] Speaker A: You're married. [01:17:20] Speaker B: You end up married. Reaching your pentacle. There you go. I don't know how, but there you go. [01:17:25] Speaker A: It's happening. [01:17:26] Speaker B: In what way but there you go. [01:17:28] Speaker A: I just slip a little poison to my first husband. And then I meet someone. I get a miss. I. What's the. The. What's the male form of a mistress? A mister? [01:17:37] Speaker B: I mean, there isn't one. Because that's offensive. [01:17:40] Speaker A: A maestro. [01:17:41] Speaker B: A maestro? No. Isn't that like a. [01:17:44] Speaker A: That's a band conductor. [01:17:45] Speaker B: Like a band conductor. A mistress or. I don't know. I don't know. That's just called pleasure. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. [01:17:55] Speaker A: God bless. Well, you know, girl, I think that. [01:17:58] Speaker B: I think we are done and I think that's about it. [01:18:02] Speaker A: And you know what? For good reason. I think it's time for us to turn it in. [01:18:05] Speaker B: It really is. It really is. [01:18:07] Speaker A: Thank you so much. If you're still listening, honestly. [01:18:11] Speaker B: Thank God. [01:18:12] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:18:12] Speaker B: Thank you so much. [01:18:14] Speaker A: Thank you for tuning in. And remember, if you're feeling the vibe, rate and subscribe. [01:18:17] Speaker B: Yeah. We also wanted to give a shout out to Christian McCann, Christian McCann and Julia Salk. Honestly, doing God's work. Doing God's work. Christian McCann for making sure our sound station check. And always, as always, thank you to the illustrious Lincoln Lodge in Chicago, Illinois, for letting us do our thing. God, this was like an early day episode. [01:18:40] Speaker A: The early days. I know. But great. [01:18:42] Speaker B: Chaotic it was. [01:18:43] Speaker A: The energy is flowing. [01:18:46] Speaker B: Until next time. [01:18:47] Speaker A: Until next time. [01:18:48] Speaker B: Bye. Bye. [01:18:50] Speaker A: Our own bridge.
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Episode 4

March 21, 2025 • 01:18:44
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Call Us Interested Bystanders

This week, Deidre and Gillian dive into the first book of Nisha J. Tuli's Artefacts of Ouranos series, Trial of the Sun Queen. They...

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