Wanted: Men Written by Women

[00:00:08] Speaker A: Welcome to Spellbound, a Romantasy podcast. I'm Deidre. [00:00:11] Speaker B: And I'm Jillian. [00:00:12] Speaker A: Thanks for joining us. [00:00:14] Speaker B: You excited to be here? Are you excited to be here? I've had a rough couple of hours. [00:00:21] Speaker A: Yeah, you have had a rough hour. Last hour. I mean, an hour ago, I was talking to you, and you were blissfully fine. [00:00:27] Speaker B: Totally. [00:00:28] Speaker A: And then things have only gone down from there. [00:00:32] Speaker B: I mean, I'm telling you. Yeah. So anyway, for those who are listening and are interested, my car was towed by ComEd today. So that was a joyful experience. Yeah. [00:00:43] Speaker A: And a new adventure awaits after the recording of this podcast. To understand what pound in the greater. [00:00:49] Speaker B: Chicagoland area, you and I are going to 701 North Sacramento. Oh, yeah, that's where we're going. [00:00:57] Speaker A: All right. [00:00:57] Speaker B: Well, yeah, at least they located it. I mean, they took record of it. That's good. Yeah. But I'm gonna have to contest the ticket. [00:01:05] Speaker A: Your. Your car could have been lost to the. To the wind. [00:01:08] Speaker B: I mean, really. And God bless her, that would be really awful. [00:01:12] Speaker A: That would be terrible. She's been through too much to go down like that. She's been through too much. She's seen too much. [00:01:18] Speaker B: She's seen too much. [00:01:19] Speaker A: I mean, to go out sad. [00:01:20] Speaker B: She's been to the pound a few times. [00:01:22] Speaker A: Yeah. She knows what it's like in there. She goes in there. She's like, this ain't my first rodeo. [00:01:26] Speaker B: No, get the fuck out. [00:01:27] Speaker A: Away. I've been here since 2004. You better back up. [00:01:32] Speaker B: She's like, it's pretty warm outside. I'm not. I'm not mad about this. [00:01:35] Speaker A: She's like, if there's a time to go to the pound, it's. It's now. It's. The weather's nice. Yeah, we'll sort that out. We'll figure that out. [00:01:41] Speaker B: Yeah, we will. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Well, in brighter news. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:01:46] Speaker A: We need to talk about Beyonce. [00:01:48] Speaker B: Okay. I was just thinking that I have seen. [00:01:52] Speaker A: So there's a friend of mine from college who I. We mostly, you know, like, probably see. See each other, stay in contact via Instagram. Yeah, but she. The other night, or maybe last night, she went to her second Cowboy Carter show up in New York. [00:02:06] Speaker B: Oh, my. [00:02:07] Speaker A: And I'm like, yes. And you know what? That's not even crazy. I. I've gone all five times. [00:02:12] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. Yeah. [00:02:13] Speaker A: If I could have. [00:02:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Was she in New York for five times? [00:02:16] Speaker A: She was for about five nights. Four or five nights. [00:02:18] Speaker B: Wow. [00:02:19] Speaker A: She added one new night, but I thought it was three. But I think I saw about five. [00:02:23] Speaker B: Wow. That's wild. [00:02:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Good for her. [00:02:26] Speaker A: Cowboy Carter. For those who have seen it. For those who have yet to see it, or those who are regrettably not seeing it, unfortunately. What a sight to behold. We're all so lucky to be living in the age of Beyonce. [00:02:39] Speaker B: Yeah. It was magical. It was really. I mean, she is magic. [00:02:43] Speaker A: I learned more in that concert than I probably did in any US History class. [00:02:47] Speaker B: No, yeah, of course. [00:02:49] Speaker A: She's like you. I think I told you this. I'm like. She might be like. They might be dismantling DEI programs, but this entire show is going to be DEI babe. [00:02:57] Speaker B: Yep. Yep. [00:02:58] Speaker A: Fantastic. [00:02:59] Speaker B: Yeah. She captivated the masses. I mean, it was incredible. [00:03:04] Speaker A: She was giving you American history. She's giving you like a black history. She's giving you black history, which is that we started all this musical mess that you all love and enjoy. [00:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:16] Speaker A: I just. She's the closest thing we have to an avenger right now. [00:03:19] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Or a goddess. [00:03:21] Speaker A: She. I'm Beyonce for Secretary of State. [00:03:25] Speaker B: Yes, yes, absolutely. [00:03:27] Speaker A: The things she could do for diplomacy. [00:03:29] Speaker B: God, can you imagine in Barbie world that would. That would be a thing. [00:03:32] Speaker A: Oh, she'd been president. [00:03:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:33] Speaker A: Like Issa Rae. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean. Or they would have been co presidents because that's what we do. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Absolutely. What's going on? We. She is who we need to broker peace across the world. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:03:46] Speaker A: That's something everybody can get behind. Wonderful costumes. Wonderful sound. Just a blessing to be in that arena. [00:03:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean it was just non stop. I rarely have like three hours of like just joy, you know? And that's what it was. [00:04:04] Speaker A: What a great call out that the moments these days. It's fleeting. [00:04:08] Speaker B: It's too. [00:04:09] Speaker A: And far between when we can get any joy. But three hours of back to back endless joy. Yeah, you're right. [00:04:16] Speaker B: She's really doing God's work. [00:04:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:18] Speaker B: I mean, seriously. Yeah, I know. [00:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah. And then we went back to reality soon after that. [00:04:25] Speaker B: That was a tough trip back there. [00:04:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. To come back to. [00:04:31] Speaker B: We're in hell. Yeah. [00:04:34] Speaker A: I think you a little bit deeper than the rest. [00:04:35] Speaker B: Right. Today. Today I am in the seventh circle. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Yes. [00:04:41] Speaker B: Not quite. I don't want to. Not quite. Yeah. [00:04:44] Speaker A: But we're. I mean, it can only go up from here. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Yes, you're right. It can. [00:04:47] Speaker A: It's only going to go up from here. Yeah. Okay. Well, wonderful. Well, do you want to talk about what we're chatting about this week? [00:04:53] Speaker B: Yeah. So we are talking about. What are we. You mean like Work stuff or the agenda? Oh, oh, the agenda. The agenda. Okay, we're going to start with a little hear ye, hear ye moment. It's a little news. What's the Roman gossip? And then we're going to go to just the tip. And that's a very brief rundown of this week's read. Then we're going to go to Literally Unhinged and talk about all our favorite moments, characters of the book. And then we're going to Finish up with Mash, everyone's favorite 90s game with. [00:05:29] Speaker A: Our own unique spin. [00:05:32] Speaker B: Perfect. [00:05:33] Speaker A: Love that. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah, love that. [00:05:34] Speaker A: All right, with our hear ye, hear ye moments of this week, a couple of really interesting articles. Number one, you sent this to me in a text message probably several days ago, but an article from the Wall Street Journal called what Hot Dragon Riders and Fornicating Fairies say About what Women Want now, an article written by Anna, Louise, Susan. [00:05:57] Speaker B: I love it. That the Wall Street Journal Journal. It's like they're picking up. [00:06:01] Speaker A: They're picking up what we're putting down. Wonderful article. You know, just talking a lot about how the love of Romanasy is increasing, especially here in a time where romance is. Is in decline in the U.S. i mean, just look around you. Obviously, fewer relationships, less sex, more women educated and financially independent are resigned to staying single. I told you this week that somebody had inquired to me about why I'm single. And my quick response, like, quick off the draw, was like, personal choice. [00:06:30] Speaker B: I love it. We should. We should coach other women's choice. [00:06:35] Speaker A: And that's. That was my truth. [00:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:38] Speaker A: That is my truth. You know what I mean? But, like, there's so many other answers that one can get, but that's not gonna satisfy the masses. And I feel like it would invite an argument. [00:06:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [00:06:46] Speaker A: So really, sort of the only answer you could provide is personal choice. [00:06:49] Speaker B: There's no way that nobody can judge that. Right. Nobody can, like, turn around and be like, well, yeah, maybe that's the wrong thing. [00:06:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Because if, you know, like, there's no good guys left. They're all over it. [00:07:00] Speaker B: Right. [00:07:00] Speaker A: They're like, not all guys. And I don't have time for the argument. [00:07:04] Speaker B: You're like, we're. We're not doing, like, we're doing facts today. We're not going to do alternative reality. [00:07:10] Speaker A: No. I'm living here in this reality, in this truth. 2025, and it's my choice. [00:07:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:17] Speaker A: Anyway, so basically, talking about how these books offer a change or to what we experience, total communication and transparency between characters, not Dealing with a situationship. God knows I've dealt with more. My fair share of those in my lifetime. [00:07:30] Speaker B: Millennials, God bless them. [00:07:32] Speaker A: Consent. There's a lot of consent in these. And men taking accountability for contraception, which, yes, that is the biggest fantastical element in these books. [00:07:42] Speaker B: Yes. [00:07:42] Speaker A: I remember a couple years ago. So I'm gonna get to this article, but a few years ago, when I was living in Columbus, my really good friend Justin, I happened to just, in a, you know, a personal moment of getting to know one another, I happened to tell him just how my experiences and other experiences of so many girls that I knew were that men that they were dating or at least entering into sexual situations with were not bringing along contraception with them. They were not bringing condoms. Like, you'd get to that point, you'd be like, do you have a condom? No condom in sight. And actually looking at you like, but that's not gonna stop the show, right? [00:08:19] Speaker B: We're gonna keep this train going. No, no, exactly. [00:08:22] Speaker A: So Justin was like, we're not gonna have it. Justin is a gay icon, by the way. So Justin and I go to Target one day, and he walks with me to the, you know, the section where there's condoms and all types of stuff. He just starts throwing all types of condoms in my bag. He's like, we're getting magnums. We're getting just the regulars. We're gonna have you prepared for anything that you come across, because these idiots. Idiots don't have a clue what they're doing. [00:08:49] Speaker B: The problem with that is that then it still made the women, like, the woman's responsibility. [00:08:54] Speaker A: It is still made the woman's responsibility. But at the same time, I'm like, if they're not gonna do it, I still have to be safe. [00:08:59] Speaker B: Yeah, well. And every girl that like, well, come on. I don't have anything. Come on. [00:09:04] Speaker A: We hear it all the time. I, like. I'm like, if. If you are a woman who is. I know, at least raising a millennial man, I just won't need you to know that, like, he's not out here carrying condoms. [00:09:15] Speaker B: He does not care. [00:09:16] Speaker A: No, he's slanging it any which way. Any which place. Without any guards. Any. Without any regards. Honestly, it's. It's. It's a human health hazard. [00:09:30] Speaker B: It's a public health. Yeah, yeah. Problem. It really is. [00:09:33] Speaker A: Shut it down. We need to be shut down, like, during COVID until we can figure this out. [00:09:37] Speaker B: I'm practically like, show me your medical history, because you're not getting anywhere near me. [00:09:42] Speaker A: Pull up that my chart. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Seriously? [00:09:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:45] Speaker B: Show me. [00:09:46] Speaker A: It's a dangerous game we're playing out there. It's Russian roulette. [00:09:50] Speaker B: Russian roulette. [00:09:53] Speaker A: Anyway, those days are behind me. But anyway, so this is, um, basically what one woman says. Sex is not ever treated in these books as something that can either be used as a weapon or people. Or something people should be shamed about. Yes. They're helping readers reframe how they understand their own pleasure, especially female readers of the genre. Just helping us to understand how we understand our own pleasure. And there's the removal of the stigma of romance novels. So not necessarily calling it a guilty pleasure, as we used to in years past, but really seeing it as a way to connect to other readers when you sort of see them checking out the book. So women will see other women, and even in the airport bookstore and see them kind of browsing, seeing if they're going to pick it up for their transatlantic flight. And they're like, girl, don't pass up the opportunity. Get it? But I thought was what was really interesting about this was, you know, again, making women feel safe in a time when, you know, places like dating apps or even, you know, with the overturning of Roe v Roe v. Wade make women feel very unsafe. And, you know, for some women, it's inspired them to be braver in the dating world. So one woman interviewed said, if Feyre can save Olive, you know, Prithian, I can go meet a man at a bar for a drink. One in the same. [00:11:08] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:11:09] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:11:10] Speaker B: Yeah. You are braving that the things that. [00:11:13] Speaker A: She saw under the mountain do not even come close to the things that we're seeing at a dive bar over here on Clark Street. You know what I'm saying? [00:11:20] Speaker B: It was somebody you've talked to for, like, five days. [00:11:23] Speaker A: It's terrible out here. We're battling demons. [00:11:26] Speaker B: We are really battling demons. [00:11:28] Speaker A: But really, it's helping women clarify what it is they're looking for in a man. And this one woman wraps up the article by saying, I'm looking for men written by women. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:11:38] Speaker A: That's the best way to describe it. [00:11:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Pedro Pascal is really what it is. [00:11:42] Speaker A: Pedro Pascal is living his best life. I have seen him this. Whatever this tour is that he's going on right now over in Europe, where he's bearing his arms, he's flying commercially. He is. Did you see the clip where he was, like, in a theater? He was. He went to a premiere and he met up with this friend, and the friend was like, do you want to come and hang out with me and some of my mates afterwards. And Petro Pascal was like, I are you kidding me? I'm a 50 year old bougie bitch. No, stop, wait. [00:12:10] Speaker B: And people don't think he's gay? [00:12:12] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know what else. You need to see my conclusion. I've basically made up my mind and I like the outcome. [00:12:22] Speaker B: But not to say I don't think. [00:12:23] Speaker A: There'S a chance in hell for me. [00:12:25] Speaker B: No, I mean, God bless him. I don't think I'd like him as mine. [00:12:29] Speaker A: Yeah, probably not. He probably wouldn't be as fun and dynamic, to be completely honest. [00:12:34] Speaker B: God bless. [00:12:35] Speaker A: Okay. Another article, this one was by Fast Company called Fantasy and Romance Writers Address AI Controversies After Readers Discover Prompts and Published Books by. And this is written by Eve Upton Clark. And basically this is a really interesting article. We're starting to sort of figure out, like, what are we going to allow with the use of AI in creative endeavors. And this has basically been sparked by two Romany authors coming under fire after their books that they recently published included what appear to be prompts kicked back to them by AI. So it's clear in the editing process that maybe they sent through some verbiage and ChatGPT or whatever AI tool that they used. Yeah, basically what came back, you know, when it comes back and it's like, sure, I basically edited this to sound more like Sarah J. Maas or something. So that prompt has been left in the books. So people are just like a little bit of like, is this the product of Chat GPT or AI or is it actually like creative intellectual property coming from the mind of someone and the thought. So basically these authors have had to apologize profusely because the broader kickback from the public is we don't want to read some Chat GPT generated. Yeah, trash essentially. [00:13:55] Speaker B: Right. [00:13:55] Speaker A: And they're like, you know, so basically you've got this balance of like under. Understand that not to create an entire book written by Chat GPT, but for some of these authors who are, you know, independent and self funded and don't have the funding and the backing of, you know, these big publishing houses and editors that can, you know, galvanize around them and go through them with a fine tooth comb, Chat GPT really comes in to fill that void, to fill that gap. And so it's just really sort of this dance and this conversation about what role ChatGPT is going to play and what role we're comfortable with it playing. In the creation of these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, these creative materials that we enjoy. [00:14:41] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah. [00:14:43] Speaker A: So interesting article to see. Yeah. [00:14:44] Speaker B: One way that we are battling that AI. [00:14:47] Speaker A: Yeah. What can you do? [00:14:48] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. [00:14:52] Speaker A: All right, well, perfect. So what are we reading this week? [00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah, go ahead. [00:14:58] Speaker A: This week we're reading House of Sky and Breath of Sky and Breath. All right, I love that. I think we're getting more on pitch week by week, but this is book two in Sarah J. Maas Crescent City series, and this was released in February of 2022. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Perfect. Yeah. [00:15:20] Speaker A: So perfect. You want to tell us a little bit? [00:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So, okay, so we've got a few characters that are. Well, actually, they're all carryovers from the last book, House of Earth and Blood. [00:15:32] Speaker A: Right. [00:15:34] Speaker B: So we've got Bryce Hunt. There are two main male and female characters. Ruhn and his friends. Ruhn is Bryce's brother. And Tharion the merman. Ethan the wolf, and Cormac the wolf. Cory the wolf. And Cormac is New. Cormac is Ruhn's cousin. So he's Fae. He's a Fae prince from the Netherland. But anyway, they all get caught up in a rebellion against the Asteri. So they go on these investigations, particularly Thari, and look into a missing brother and sister that Cormac has, you know, kind of made them aware of that is connected to this rebel cadre. Is that the right word? Cadre? [00:16:18] Speaker A: Sure. I'll allow it. [00:16:20] Speaker B: I'll allow it. Ophian. Ophian. [00:16:22] Speaker A: Right. [00:16:24] Speaker B: Okay. So then, like, Hunt and Bryce are annoying as fuck. You know, there's Evergreen. There's just a lot of, like. A lot of, like, sitting around eating pizza, you know, watching Sunball. And, you know, all of the sex is just gross. Honestly, it's gross. So anyway, they figure out that Danica, who is Bryce's best friend, who passed. Passed away. [00:16:51] Speaker A: She'S no longer with us. [00:16:54] Speaker B: We don't know where she is, and. [00:16:57] Speaker A: I don't think anybody does. I think people are looking back in, like, inventory, being like, has that already been sent out? [00:17:02] Speaker B: I know it's. But so they find out that she's been. You know, she had been working on, like, finding out the truth of the Asteri. So the Asteri are like, these. Well, they should have. There was seven, but there's six. Like, gods, Governor, people. Anyway, end the book. There's a showdown in the palace of Eternal City, and Bryce lands herself in the world that we'd all like to live in. Perthian, right? Sure, yeah. Acotar world. Yeah. [00:17:37] Speaker A: Which we haven't covered yet. So we're kind of like backing into that world here for the first time. [00:17:42] Speaker B: For sure. For sure, yeah. But there's just a lot of investigations and then like, other than the Rhysand thing where she like, she is. What is it? Like she. She opens the gates and she's trying to get back, get to hell. But she actually like, I don't know, took a wrong turn and then she's now in like this old Fae world. Anyway. Yeah. So that's basically it. [00:18:16] Speaker A: No one needs to read the book. That's it. [00:18:20] Speaker B: Well, there was a couple other things, so. [00:18:23] Speaker A: Just a few. [00:18:24] Speaker B: Just a few. There's a little bit more of the. Yeah than the tip. [00:18:29] Speaker A: So are you okay slamming us home? Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. I got something in my eye. [00:18:33] Speaker B: Okay. So Bryce and Hunt, they basically like just try to be friends, but they're gross throughout the whole thing. They turn out to be mates. Ruhn, our boy Ruhn is in the middle of some weird love is blind situation. [00:18:48] Speaker A: That's a perfect way to say it. [00:18:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Where he is like dream talking to this woman that he doesn't know. [00:18:55] Speaker A: Does a little bit more than dream. [00:18:56] Speaker B: It's really weird when that happens, but. [00:18:59] Speaker A: We'Ll go back to that. [00:19:00] Speaker B: So. And then Ethan, still in with Bryce, but he's also trying to figure out like what happened to his brother Connor. So part of this whole like what's going on with the Asteri is like also what happens after we die. So there's a lot of like existentialism in this. A lot of like Albert Camus, he's a French philosopher. [00:19:22] Speaker A: Okay. Thank you for that. [00:19:25] Speaker B: And then you know Tharion, God bless him, he's in the river investigation. [00:19:31] Speaker A: Unemployed really, is what you want to say. [00:19:33] Speaker B: He's really unemployed. [00:19:35] Speaker A: Yeah. No purpose. Okay. What'd you think about this book? [00:19:38] Speaker B: I loved it. [00:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:39] Speaker B: Loved it. It was a lot. The sex I did not love. [00:19:43] Speaker A: No. Did you enjoy this book? Probably better than the first one in the series? [00:19:47] Speaker B: Good question. I don't know. [00:19:51] Speaker A: I think I enjoyed it simply because it. It deepened the storyline. It deepened like the understanding of the characters. Broadened our like broadened our understanding of the world and operates. [00:20:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:03] Speaker A: So yeah, it was a really fun book. But I would agree with you. The sex feels like it was written by a 14 year old boy. [00:20:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. After watching 17 hours of porn after. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Bang Bros. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it was. [00:20:18] Speaker B: I pornhub greatest highlight. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Yeah, it was A pornhub Greatest highlights. It felt like cheap porn that you. That was filmed in the Valley, I think is what I told you. [00:20:28] Speaker B: I, I. [00:20:30] Speaker A: Okay, so I really enjoyed this book. I could have actually even done without all of the sex scenes. I don't care. But that means that's because I don't care about our main characters of Bryce and Hunt as a couple. I could literally do without them. [00:20:43] Speaker B: I mean, honestly, I don't even like them really, individually. Bryce's. [00:20:46] Speaker A: I stay with Bryce. I think I'd actually enjoy it more if she didn't necessarily have a love interest. She was just assigned to, like, figure out the mystery of what's going on in Midgard. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so too. I mean, I think that, like, he makes her terrible. Like, just because he's so bad. That's, you know, there's such a territorial. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Aspect in this book because they basically made this decision. Well, first of all, this book starts with them, like, being, you know, celibate until the winter solstice. Some agreement that they're not gonna have any sex. But obviously things take over. They end up sleeping together, like, two weeks after. [00:21:24] Speaker B: Two weeks after. And then mate. They're like, decide they're mates. Like two second dragons later. It's so weird. [00:21:31] Speaker A: So weird. And then it. That then makes every interaction that they have with the outside world very toxic because Hunt can't stand anybody. Like, yeah, quote unquote, posing a threat to Bryce. Even though you want to be like, Bryce is putting herself in these situations. And in many instances, she's not even communicating with you about what the she's doing. [00:21:51] Speaker B: Right. [00:21:52] Speaker A: So I don't really even want. I, I don't even believe that the two of you are mates because she doesn't even trust you enough. [00:21:56] Speaker B: She doesn't. There were several things she didn't tell him about because she knew he'd be, yeah, super territorial. [00:22:02] Speaker A: I'm like, is the mating bond in the room with us? Like, does it actually exist? And I'll tell you something else. There's also this conversation, this very interesting Hindsight is 2020 situation with Hunt. Looking back on his relationship with Shahar, who was the original rebel that he fell in love with. But in the first book, it was like, there's nobody else that I've loved more than her. She was the love of my life. I've not wanted anybody since her. But in this book, as he starts to peel back the layers, he very much see, sees that, like, he was groomed. [00:22:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Oh, totally with her romantically. And it wasn't necessarily a romantic relationship, but it was just one born of, like, trauma bonding, basically. Her basically needing him for his abilities and his skills and his brawn, but not really being in love with him. [00:22:49] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:49] Speaker A: But I don't necessarily know that. I feel like it's that different than how the situation is playing out with Bryce. [00:22:55] Speaker B: No. I mean, no. Because I don't know. He's just not very smart. [00:22:59] Speaker A: He's not smart. He says six words at a time. [00:23:03] Speaker B: Just grunts and growls. I mean, which, like, is like every other main male character in these. But, like, he does it especially, like, just so in such an irritating way because he also doesn't bring anything else to the table. Like, he's only upset when she's being looked at by some other man. [00:23:22] Speaker A: We need to talk about whenever he got really upset about. They had basically blown up this. The rebel island or whatever. And then all of a sudden, they were on the ship under the sea. And I just heard, under the sea, but on the Little Mermaid under my head. And essentially, he is so wound up, he is so angry that he's got, like, lightning in his eyes between his fingers. He cannot calm down. Nobody can get him to calm down. And Bryce, seeing an opportunity to figure out how she can calm him down, takes him into basically this bio zone, this greenhouse that exists on the ship. [00:24:03] Speaker B: And sucking and fucking. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Absolutely. Thank you. I couldn't have come up with a more concise way to say what was going on in the most. That's what calms him down. And I was like, I hate the optics of this. I don't like the messaging of this that, like, he cannot control his emotions. He can't control his anger. And the only way to get him to come down is if she's like. If he's, like, balls deep. [00:24:26] Speaker B: If he spills into her, basically. [00:24:28] Speaker A: Precisely. [00:24:29] Speaker B: And that is a direct quote, probably 100%. [00:24:33] Speaker A: You did not. You did not mince words. That's exactly what's going on in the book. So it's like, things like that. And you see other elements of that throughout the story that, like, I'm just not necessarily feeling. Another thing that I need to talk about with our girl, Bryce, is every piece of lingerie that she has is lace. And I need her to get some 100% cotton undies going on to let that thing breathe. [00:24:54] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it's true. It's really true. [00:24:57] Speaker A: She's gotta breathe, girl. [00:24:59] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, there was one scene. There was one scene. You know, the scene at the gym. [00:25:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:05] Speaker B: When they. So is that the first time they have sex? No, no, no, no. [00:25:08] Speaker A: It's like the first time they fool around in this book, I think. [00:25:10] Speaker B: Oh no, the first. [00:25:12] Speaker A: Oh God. [00:25:12] Speaker B: The first time was basically. It was like the. It was like POV of a 14 year old boy getting a blowjob. Like, remember that one? [00:25:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Which one was that? What were they doing? It wasn't the gym? [00:25:24] Speaker B: No, it wasn't the gym. It was before that. [00:25:28] Speaker A: Who knows? I mean, my mind is just like mush. I know it's all the same. [00:25:33] Speaker B: But I wrote, okay, so like, you know, I write notes and I'll write the page number and like literally every other one I'd be like, Gross.308 gross. [00:25:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a lot. [00:25:46] Speaker B: So then when they had sex in the gym, first of all, that's. There's a lot of bodily fluids in there. [00:25:51] Speaker A: It's terrible. [00:25:52] Speaker B: I mean, I just. I don't like it. [00:25:53] Speaker A: I'm also just like. Everything is funky right now. [00:25:56] Speaker B: Yes. Also, it's not like. Okay, so like in the old fae worlds, it's a little bit like, all right guys, you don't have plumbing, you don't have. Whatever this. There's no excuse for this. [00:26:08] Speaker A: She's living in a high rise luxury apartment. [00:26:11] Speaker B: If you get blood all over yourself, take a shower first. [00:26:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:15] Speaker B: No, they were. [00:26:16] Speaker A: They were tongue in each other down in this book with blood and gore all over them. It was definitely happening in the end when they kissed for the last time before she went off to, you know, her magical mythical land. They definitely kiss. And like right before that she had mentioned she had the blood, guts and gore of the. The heart. [00:26:33] Speaker B: Yeah, Beheaded. It was literally beheaded like 10 minutes before. [00:26:38] Speaker A: I'm like, nothing better to get you in the mood than a good beheading rose. Nothing, Nothing more to get you in the action. I also, okay, talking about the, talking about the lace undies constantly. I was like, girl, first of all, nobody is walking around wearing lace bras and panties 247 every day. [00:27:00] Speaker B: No way. [00:27:00] Speaker A: Stop it. [00:27:01] Speaker B: Yes. [00:27:02] Speaker A: The tacky clothing choices continue in this book. My girl is looking like she is. It's giving Jersey Shore Y is. Is what it is. It's like tight body bodycon dress dresses. It looks like the wrap. You know, that's what I'm picturing. 4 inch stiletto heels with the hidden platform. Going to work on a Tuesday. And Hunt for his part, is just wearing a backwards cap and a wife beater. [00:27:27] Speaker B: I hate it. I hate it. I hate it so much. She's Basically, yes. Shops at only Akira. [00:27:34] Speaker A: Absolutely. I don't understand that. But yeah, those two. I don't know. I. The least interesting part of this book, for me, it was the exploration of other characters that I really enjoyed. [00:27:46] Speaker B: Totally, totally. But just to go back. So there was a. In the gym scene. Okay. I wrote down, what's going on, mound. Is he giving her a vaginal exam? Why does he keep. Keep partying her? He kept talking about, like, partying and observing her. I was like, are you giving her exam? [00:28:04] Speaker A: Pushing those knees back and being like, you're so beautiful. [00:28:07] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:28:08] Speaker A: There's no other position I could think of to be in where I feel like, hideous. [00:28:13] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Yeah. I don't understand. [00:28:16] Speaker A: I'm like, I. Maybe it's a me thing, but I'm like, if you've got me in that position, I'm feeling so gross and vulnerable, exposed and so. [00:28:25] Speaker B: Yeah, but that's that. So that's why I'm wondering, is that like a porn thing? Like, because there are several. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Definitely. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Okay, so there are like other books that have done this. Remember DM and Luther did that, I think. But Luther was just so weird, you know? Yeah. [00:28:39] Speaker A: He was thumping that Bible. But anyway. Yeah, like in these, in these films. I haven't watched one in God knows how long. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:48] Speaker A: But yeah, they just. [00:28:49] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. Disgusting. [00:28:53] Speaker A: I don't know. I was like, what? Who wrote. Who's writing this? [00:28:56] Speaker B: I mean, seriously, a 14 year old. [00:28:59] Speaker A: Crude by any stretch of the mouth. [00:29:01] Speaker B: No, no, no. [00:29:01] Speaker A: I know what folks are doing. [00:29:03] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:29:04] Speaker A: But it was like. Oh, God. [00:29:06] Speaker B: I know, I know. It was also just like, then the way that porn is. It was like very objectifying of her, you know? And I just did not feel good. [00:29:15] Speaker A: But that's why I'm like, I don't believe that they are in like a. A truly intimate, romantic, emotional relationship. [00:29:22] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:29:23] Speaker A: Like, it just feels so physical between them. Like their attraction feels physical. It doesn't feel. Okay. For example. I'll give you this example. I actually feel like Ruhn and the Hind have more of an emotional connection than Bryce and. [00:29:36] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And yeah. I mean. Yeah, well, they're both like, not. They're both pretty smart. Like the thing with the hunt and Bryce is like, I don't even know if you can have more of a connection with him either. [00:29:50] Speaker A: You know, I don't know that you can unless you're literally anytime he is in a group where there is a strategy going down. Everybody, even Ethan and his 20 year old self, like, has something to say that's, like, direct. It's strategic. It's thinking things through. He is saying six words and it's likely repeating what somebody else has said. Or it's going, I'll do whatever I can to protect you. [00:30:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just. I'll protect Bryce. She can't go without me. [00:30:16] Speaker A: As somebody who doesn't want to go anywhere with anyone at any time, that is like, nightmare fuel for me. Like, get the fuck away from me. [00:30:27] Speaker B: Terrible. [00:30:28] Speaker A: Let's talk about. You want to talk about some of these supporting characters? [00:30:31] Speaker B: Yes, please. Please. I need to stop talking about Hunt. [00:30:34] Speaker A: We're over it. You're. You're still like, I hope he dies. [00:30:39] Speaker B: I really do. Yeah. Should we talk about Ithan Tharion? Who should we talk about? [00:30:45] Speaker A: Okay, let's talk about Ethan. Cause I team Ethan all the way. [00:30:53] Speaker B: All the way. [00:30:54] Speaker A: So he comes to us in this book after being excommunicated from the wolf den. [00:31:00] Speaker B: Yes. Right. [00:31:01] Speaker A: Because he basically stands up for Bryce and Sabine ain't having that. Sabine being Danica's mom. [00:31:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:07] Speaker A: And so now he's a wolf without a pack. And despite how sad that is, I actually thought that he did a really good job job of just getting involved wherever he goes. [00:31:15] Speaker B: Oh, totally. Yeah. [00:31:16] Speaker A: But what was surprising to me was this, like, long held crush that he had for Bryce. Yeah. [00:31:22] Speaker B: I didn't know about that. And I think it just. It, like, didn't add anything very interesting. [00:31:27] Speaker A: Because I'm like, unless you're gonna do something about it. This is mostly Sarah J. Moss now. I'm like, unless you're gonna write something into the book about it. Right? Like, taking action against it. [00:31:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:35] Speaker A: I really don't want to hear about it. [00:31:36] Speaker B: I know. And I mean, he was, in a lot of ways, like, a very, you know, but they could have. She could have focused more on, like, him being, you know, a wolf without a pack and then going and, like, making these friends with Ruhn and Flynn and Declan and. But yeah, they had to focus on, like, oh, well, he was in love with Bryce, and Bryce is like, the most beautiful woman ever. And so, whatever. [00:32:00] Speaker A: Yeah. And then moments of him having to, like, tamp down his, like, emotions for her whenever, like, she would fly off with Hunt or disappear in the bedroom with Hunt. [00:32:10] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I did love when they. I can't remember when it was, but basically Ethan was in the apartment and Bryce and Hunt were having sex. And Ethan goes, that sounds medically dangerous. [00:32:27] Speaker A: Very good sense of humor from all of the Supporting characters. [00:32:29] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. [00:32:30] Speaker A: Not necessarily the two main folks, but Hunt has never. [00:32:35] Speaker B: I don't think he ever said anything that, like, made me laugh or, like, made me even chuckle. [00:32:39] Speaker A: I don't think so either. He is boring. [00:32:42] Speaker B: He is so boring. [00:32:44] Speaker A: So, Ethan, we love him. [00:32:46] Speaker B: Love him. [00:32:46] Speaker A: Ruhn also really developed this book. [00:32:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's a. He's flawed in some ways, and starts with his hair and the lip ring. [00:32:57] Speaker A: I'm really trying. You know, I'm trying. [00:32:59] Speaker B: I know. I can't. I mean, I really did change it in my head. I don't want it. I don't want to. Want to think about the Skrillex. But, like, when he kept, like, toying. [00:33:09] Speaker A: With his lip ring, Sarah J. Moss was like, one thing I'm not going to let you do is forget that this man. [00:33:14] Speaker B: I know. [00:33:17] Speaker A: I'm not going to let you forget. [00:33:18] Speaker B: I know. I was like, no, I don't. That's not. [00:33:20] Speaker A: I don't love that. Let's. Okay, so we love that. And we actually see him develop a romantic relationship in this book, which in the last book, I was really rooting for him in Hypaxia. [00:33:33] Speaker B: Me, too. I love Hypaxia. [00:33:34] Speaker A: I do, too. I really love her. But it's very clear that they are still betrothed to each other. [00:33:38] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:39] Speaker A: But they're more friends than anything else. [00:33:41] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:42] Speaker A: And then through this spy operation that he's since become a part of as being part of the rebels, he develops this relationship with somebody across his mental bridge who looks like our fallen lehabah in form. [00:33:56] Speaker B: He does. [00:33:58] Speaker A: But they start to develop an emotional connection to each other. Maybe this is how we should date going forward. Just, like, have somebody with, like, a mental bridge we can't see as fit. We have to get to know them. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:34:09] Speaker A: Emotionally and mentally. [00:34:12] Speaker B: Unfortunately, I think that is called Love is Blind. [00:34:14] Speaker A: Unfortunately, it is called Love is Blind. And unfortunately, I think we would be by ourselves on the end of. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Yes. [00:34:21] Speaker A: The Mental Bridge. No one to meet us in the middle. [00:34:25] Speaker B: No. We'd be getting out our, like, couches, you know, like, oh, my God. [00:34:29] Speaker A: There was a couple of really nasty sex scenes with him in this book, too. It starts with him. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Okay. That one I didn't like at all. That was. It was another, like, porn pov. Like. It was. Yeah. [00:34:42] Speaker A: I was also just. I'm so put off sometimes when the forms and figures of some of these characters, like the girl that he was hooking up with initially, she had hooves. [00:34:49] Speaker B: Hooves. I know. I couldn't handle That I was like. [00:34:52] Speaker A: How does this work exactly? [00:34:53] Speaker B: I know. I. [00:34:54] Speaker A: That sounds medically dangerous. [00:34:56] Speaker B: Yes, it does. It does. And, like, he would talk about. I. Yeah, no, no, thanks. No, thanks. [00:35:01] Speaker A: I don't love it. I hated it. And then, of course, he has sex across the mental bridge, which I'm like, are you feeling. Are you having sensations physically? [00:35:10] Speaker B: I thought that too, because I was like, is this like a dream? Like a delicious dream? Is it? Yes. [00:35:18] Speaker A: Like, it's a headset. Virtual reality. [00:35:21] Speaker B: It has to be. Right? I mean, they were like, like. But she was on fire. Her whole body was on fire. [00:35:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:28] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:35:29] Speaker A: It seemed as real as anything else going on in this book. [00:35:32] Speaker B: I guess so. Except he didn't know who she was. [00:35:34] Speaker A: He did not know. But he kept wanting to know. I. Okay, so in the scene. Wherever, you know, well, over time, as they're getting to know one another, you know, I thought that it was our new queen. [00:35:46] Speaker B: Celestina. Yes. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Of the Baron Celestina, because she got ripped away from a man that she didn't want to sleep with. Which we learn. We keep learning through our interactions with Celestina. [00:35:59] Speaker B: Right. [00:35:59] Speaker A: That she actually doesn't want to be sleeping with the man that she's been betrothed to. [00:36:03] Speaker B: Right. [00:36:03] Speaker A: But little after little, we get clues that the person on the other end of the bridge is not our girl. [00:36:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And is this someone that was historically not a great. Not a great person. [00:36:13] Speaker A: No. [00:36:13] Speaker B: But. So is this a bit of a surprise? [00:36:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Flynn and Declan, it's pretty much business as usual. [00:36:19] Speaker B: Business as. I mean, I did love the fire sprite thing that was cut. [00:36:23] Speaker A: I love the fire sprite thing. I love how they left Flynn. I definitely see that there's gonna be something between Flynn and the dragon. [00:36:29] Speaker B: I think so, too. Yeah. So basically they. Ethan comes across a man, like a magician, wearing, like four rings. As a. [00:36:39] Speaker A: Four rings, they go to the mystics. [00:36:41] Speaker B: Yes. And they. Three sprites. So in each ring is a sprite or a dragon one. [00:36:48] Speaker A: It just looked like a ball of fire. [00:36:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:50] Speaker A: And they released these things and these rings, and three fire sprites came out. And then one full grown woman. [00:36:56] Speaker B: Yeah. I thought that was, like, very cool, you know, like, that was like a very creative. And I liked that whole mystic scene. [00:37:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, it was so beautifully written. It was vivid. [00:37:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:08] Speaker A: You know what I mean? That whole situation and setup was very vivid. [00:37:12] Speaker B: It was very, very creepy scary. But, like, also just. You knew. Yeah. Like you knew what this guy would look like. That kind of magician. Yeah, absolutely. [00:37:22] Speaker A: And Then we have. Yeah, so there's a dragon. And then also I think that there's gonna be something between Ethan and this wolf that has been acting as a mystic essentially for God knows how long. [00:37:36] Speaker B: For a long time. Yeah. Yeah. [00:37:39] Speaker A: So I'm interested to see how that comes out. We need to talk about Therian. [00:37:43] Speaker B: We do need to talk about Therian. What do you think. [00:37:48] Speaker A: I am. Okay, we need to talk about. Do you want to talk about Therian or do you want to talk about Cormac? [00:37:53] Speaker B: Cormac. Okay, so Cormac. We can talk about Cormac. So one of the things, like, he was described as a rebel prince and a bookworm. And I was like, not Cormac being Barack Obama. [00:38:09] Speaker A: Barack Obama being a rebel prince. [00:38:12] Speaker B: I don't know why I thought of it, but I read it and I was like, that's Barack. [00:38:15] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Interesting. I hated him at first. [00:38:20] Speaker B: I didn't like him either. [00:38:22] Speaker A: Hated him. I was like, he's racist. He's misogynistic. [00:38:25] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. And he wasn't like. I mean, he was definitely focused and dedicated to the cause, you know, in a way that others weren't that were kind of annoying. You know, he was like, very serious, but he was still kind of a dick in other ways. [00:38:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:41] Speaker B: Like, spoiler alert, he dies in the end. [00:38:44] Speaker A: So do we think he's really dead? [00:38:46] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah. I think. Cuz they were, like, setting. I think she was setting it up with that whole conversation with Run the night before. [00:38:54] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. [00:38:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:56] Speaker A: I just, like, don't want to believe that anybody's really dead. I'm actually still hoping that they go to the bottom of the ocean and get Victoria. [00:39:02] Speaker B: Oh, I think they will. [00:39:03] Speaker A: Yeah. They keep mentioning it. And I'm like, she's going to be freed. [00:39:06] Speaker B: Justice for Victoria. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Justice for Victoria. [00:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. And I felt kind of bad for Corbeck in this book, to be honest. [00:39:13] Speaker B: Like, I did too. [00:39:14] Speaker A: I'm like, I know that, like, you didn't want to marry him and you don't want to be with him. She didn't have to, like, embarrass him like that in front of everybody. [00:39:20] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that was bad. She could have told him. [00:39:22] Speaker A: Yeah. But she embarrassed him. It was really bad. It made things bad for him. And also he's reeling from the. The loss of, like, the love of his life. [00:39:30] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah, I know. [00:39:32] Speaker A: Oh, so bad. Okay. Therian. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Okay. I love Tharion. So many conflicting feelings, though, about Tharion. You know, I love him, but he also, like, we talked about this last night, I also think he was a little bit, like, unserious. You know, there was like a lot going on around him and he was sort of like, just like, okay, whatever, I'm gonna investigate this death, you know? And it's like, I need you to be a little bit more like Elliot Stabler. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Yes. [00:39:59] Speaker B: Right. I need you to be serious, focused, and figure this out. [00:40:03] Speaker A: Yeah, no, he seems like a very unserious person. I actually near the end of the book was like, he does not make me feel safe. [00:40:11] Speaker B: No. [00:40:13] Speaker A: Because I thought the decision that he made at the end with the Viper Queen was so dangerous and rash and he doesn't. He's not good about fully taking accountability for his actions. Like, he just runs from things or doesn't like, face them him head. Head on until it gets so bad. And instead of just dealing with it, he hurts people by like, dragging things out and on. Like, I'm like, what the. What the hell was the point in like, first of all, sleeping with this girl, the River Queen's daughter, being betrothed to her, putting off getting married to her, then taking her around to all of these things, the summit, the gala. In this book, she's in, like, she's trying to show interest in, like, the things that he's interested in, the things he wants to do. And. And instead of like telling her I'm not interested or this isn't gonna work out, he abandons her and then he goes and he sleeps with some. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Yeah, the leopard shifter. Leopard shifter. Oh, that was. I hated that. [00:41:12] Speaker A: When that all started to happen, I was like, you're making. I can't root for you because you're not being a stand up person. All of the, like, you know, charming, like, little quips and the, you know, just the. The just sort of cool bravado that he sort of puts on. I think all of that, that's like fun and great, but like, he's actually a very untrustworthy person. [00:41:34] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's. Yeah. He spent the whole time, like, avoiding things and just like. Yeah. Not taking like, not even really caring about the, like rebellion or. It's just. He's only cared about himself. He's like, no, I just don't want to be beneath. I don't want to be under the river. Yeah. [00:41:52] Speaker A: But I'm also like, you got to make a choice here because, like, either you want to be up here or like you want to like, go down there. But now it feels like you can't go down there. So what. What are we Doing. [00:42:03] Speaker B: I know. It's very odd. You'd think there would be a different way out than, like, going to the Viper Queen. [00:42:08] Speaker A: And this seems like the worst thing. [00:42:10] Speaker B: He could have done. Yes, yes. He's just trading one for. I mean, he had more freedom. I feel like down with under the River Queen. [00:42:18] Speaker A: I think so too. And now it feels like he's got, like, this constant. He's, like, drugged all the time. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:24] Speaker A: No. So I don't know. I mean, maybe he'll have a little bit of a redemption arc in the upcoming book, but. But he's. I was highly disappointed with him. If we're ranking, like, disappointing characters, he's top of the list for me. [00:42:37] Speaker B: No, I think so too. Yeah. Yeah, I would say so. [00:42:41] Speaker A: He's. He's disappointing me. [00:42:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:44] Speaker A: Let's see. We should also talk about the fact the whole fight in this book is because they are trying to save a brother and a sister who have these. What is believe, long lost powers. [00:42:56] Speaker B: Thunderbird powers. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Which I'm right. Don't let this die. [00:43:00] Speaker B: Yeah, right, right, right. [00:43:01] Speaker A: Where can we. Where can we assure that we can find the Thunderbird? [00:43:06] Speaker B: I was confused, though, because it was like. And then Hunt kept saying, like, well, wait, I can kind of do that. You know, like, whatever that Thunderbird was. [00:43:14] Speaker A: I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm gonna keep it 100 with you. I do not understand. [00:43:17] Speaker B: No idea what he does. [00:43:18] Speaker A: I do not understand what she does. [00:43:20] Speaker B: No. [00:43:20] Speaker A: And I do not understand what they do together. No idea. But it seems like they're a conduit for each other. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:43:29] Speaker A: Yeah, but she could get powered up by anybody, really, can't she? [00:43:33] Speaker B: Right, so. Which is like, kind of like the Thunderbird, I thought, you know, or the Thunderbird can siphon power from anything. [00:43:40] Speaker A: Okay. This is a segue. This is a perfect segue to talk. Talking about thunder. There were moments in sex scenes. Hannah, loop us back there. [00:43:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:48] Speaker A: Where Hunt was zapping her with lightning. [00:43:52] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Now we're going back to what was. Was that horrible book series that we read from Blood and Ash. [00:43:59] Speaker A: When he bites her, I was like, I don't even want to look at what the results are on. You know, WebMD about. [00:44:07] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:44:08] Speaker A: The effects of lightning to one's erogenous zones. Does one even survive? [00:44:11] Speaker B: I don't think. I mean, it's never. I'm sure it's never happened. [00:44:15] Speaker A: Do you remember those? Okay, you remember when you were walking along in the mall back in the 90s, and you would walk By, I don't know, Spencer's gifts or something. And they would have that ball of electricity. Yes, yes. And you'd go and you put your finger on it and whatever. That's how I kind of picture how this would work. [00:44:33] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense. [00:44:35] Speaker A: But not there. Yeah, I'm trying to protect that at all costs. [00:44:39] Speaker B: At all costs. There's no. I don't want any lightning. I don't want any electricity anywhere near there. [00:44:45] Speaker A: No. All I'm asking for you to do is just find it. Just. [00:44:49] Speaker B: Please. It's not that hard. [00:44:51] Speaker A: I don't need you sitting here needing to act like Zeus and Zep lightning rods into it. Okay? We don't need that. We don't need a jump. [00:44:59] Speaker B: Nothing fancy, honestly, just. [00:45:03] Speaker A: Just your standard family entry level. Just find it and do what you need to do. [00:45:08] Speaker B: 101. [00:45:11] Speaker A: I need to. I need to say something too. [00:45:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:13] Speaker A: The pain of all of this. Balls are mentioned 31 times. [00:45:18] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:45:19] Speaker A: Now, not all of those times are titicular balls. [00:45:23] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:45:24] Speaker A: Some of those mentions are when the boys just go out to play pool. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Oh, okay. But only a few of them. [00:45:30] Speaker A: Only a few of them. [00:45:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:33] Speaker A: Balls Tightened is mentioned five times. [00:45:37] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Balls are doing all types of things in this book. It's a regular Cirque du Soleil of. [00:45:43] Speaker B: Balls in this book. [00:45:44] Speaker A: Look, they're high flying, doing acrobatic feats the likes of which you've never seen in your life before. It is. [00:45:51] Speaker B: It's ridiculous. Yes. [00:45:53] Speaker A: Jarring. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Yes. Very giant. To read that word is like, oh, like, okay, that's where we're going. [00:46:01] Speaker A: It's just so. [00:46:02] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like bass. You know what I mean? [00:46:11] Speaker A: Base instincts. Yes. [00:46:12] Speaker B: Huh? Yep. [00:46:14] Speaker A: It is. Pulls you out of the story. [00:46:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:18] Speaker A: When you're sitting there and it's like, I was in a Tuesday, 8:30am meeting and my balls. You're like, call HR it's a problem. [00:46:29] Speaker B: Seriously. And it can't. Like, I. I wrote this down because it's like. Like can't run. Just, like, hear her laugh. Like, hear the. [00:46:37] Speaker A: This. [00:46:38] Speaker B: Whatever the dream. The hind. Like, can he just, like, love. Oh, like she has nice laugh without his balls tightening. Like, come on, that's not realistic. I mean, it's just like, it happened so frequently and we had to hear about it. [00:46:52] Speaker A: They're a menace. [00:46:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:54] Speaker A: Just all over the place. Okay, we need to talk about newly formed relationships in this book, too. [00:47:01] Speaker B: Okay. [00:47:02] Speaker A: So we talked a little bit. It'll obviously hunt in price or old news. We've got budding relationships, possibly with Ethan and the Wolf, who might be a Fendir heir. We've got Flynn and potentially the Dragon. So remains to be seen what's going on there. Let's talk a little bit about Ruhn and the hind. [00:47:30] Speaker B: The hind. Okay. [00:47:32] Speaker A: Lydia. [00:47:33] Speaker B: Lydia, who is. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Sisters. Half sisters with high pass. [00:47:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:40] Speaker A: Or biracial queen. [00:47:41] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:47:44] Speaker A: Do you love this relationship or are you concerned about it? [00:47:48] Speaker B: Concerning what? I mean, I. Yeah, I like it. I think it's good. Yeah. I mean, I think it's probably my favorite relationship out of the. Besides what. I assume Aidas and his. You know, Thea was. Oh, God. I know. But anyway, I. Yeah, I mean, I like it. I think the balls were tightening too much for my liking, you know, but it was like, so, you know, that cheapens it. You know, when she says things like that, it's like, okay, you're bringing me out of this, like. Like connection. [00:48:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:23] Speaker B: Right. And. But otherwise. Yeah, no, I think they really were. You know, they had good chemistry. [00:48:30] Speaker A: They developed a really good relationship in chemistry. Over the brain connection. [00:48:33] Speaker B: Yes. [00:48:34] Speaker A: Over the mind connection. [00:48:35] Speaker B: Yes. [00:48:35] Speaker A: Which is like, you know, you don't even know who you might be missing out on out here. [00:48:39] Speaker B: I know. Yeah. [00:48:40] Speaker A: But luckily, these two seem to be two very attractive people, so, I mean, good for them. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Good for them. Yeah. [00:48:46] Speaker A: For finding each other. I don't know if she will like the frat house that they live. [00:48:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, God. I know. When Hypaxia came to visit, I was like. [00:48:55] Speaker A: And there were, like, stains on the couch. No, I'll be. I'll stand. Thank you. [00:49:00] Speaker B: Yeah. No, that house sounds miserable. Plus, he's, like, 75 years old, still living in old school, you know? [00:49:08] Speaker A: I know. It's so. It's so. I just feel like the house is about to fall apart. I just feel like there's stains everywhere. Do not bring a black light in there, because it's just gonna be. It's just gonna be a bed. It's gonna be quite gross. [00:49:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:21] Speaker A: Let's talk about Celestina and Hypaxia. [00:49:26] Speaker B: So, yeah, the whole book, we were like, Celestina was. Is betrothed. You know, she's made to marry this. What was his name? Ephraim, is this other archangel. But we know that, like, she keeps. You know, it's, like, pretty obvious that she doesn't want to. You know, and then Hunt even mentions at one point, like, oh, I don't even know if she, like, likes men, you know, and so you called it that. She would eventually end up with Hypaxia. [00:49:50] Speaker A: Well, it's only I spoiled it for me by looking at fan art and people had created fan art of Hypaxia and Celestina. But even if I hadn't seen that, I feel like the breadcrumbs were a little bit there. [00:50:03] Speaker B: Okay, okay. Yeah. Because then Hypaxia was like, oh, she loves somebody that she can't love, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But we didn't talk about Celestina being like them over a traitor. [00:50:18] Speaker A: I know, I know. She was feeding information back to the Asteri, the God Council, essentially, about what this group was doing. Basically. Because she was just trying to protect her in Hypaxia. [00:50:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. That I did not see. [00:50:31] Speaker A: I didn't love that either because I was like, she seems like a good egg. [00:50:34] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. But like, even in the coat room when they discovered her in Hypaxia together. [00:50:40] Speaker A: She was being weird. [00:50:41] Speaker B: She was being very weird. [00:50:42] Speaker A: She was acting like Hunt was in the ship where it was like, can't calm down because she thinks her mate is being threatened. [00:50:48] Speaker B: It's so, like, just base. [00:50:52] Speaker A: It is. And honestly, you know, I told you, I'm like, you know, I. Obviously I'm like, I'm here for all love and all the relationships that are forming, but I just. I wanted. I wanted something else for these two characters. I wanted something else for Hypaxia. I don't know. I wanted something else. [00:51:08] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I think it was like. And then it just. I don't know, it just seemed really rushed at the end, the story. Yeah. And just like, she didn't have as much of, like a. A part in it. Like, neither of them really did. You know, Hypaxia wasn't really there until the end. [00:51:25] Speaker A: No, she really wasn't. [00:51:26] Speaker B: Pretty end. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, she wasn't there until the end. [00:51:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And like. But like, Celestina, like, she could have done more with that. Like, she could have, but, you know, that's the choice. [00:51:42] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, totally. [00:51:43] Speaker B: Well, and yeah, what I was saying is that, like, there weren't. So there were a lot more male characters than there were female characters. And so it just feels like. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't know. It just feels like an interesting choice. [00:51:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, what are we thinking about? Okay, so the end of this book has us seeing our angel. [00:52:07] Speaker B: Has us seen stars. Yep. [00:52:09] Speaker A: Truthfully, with our baby angel. Rhysand. [00:52:13] Speaker B: Rhysand. [00:52:13] Speaker A: We gotta cover that book. We will cover that book eventually. [00:52:16] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:52:17] Speaker A: It is the Bible. [00:52:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it's the Bible. It's the Romany Bible. [00:52:21] Speaker A: And I didn't even put two and two together because I was like, I don't even know what age we're in, what year we're in, whenever she falls into this land. But you put two and two together and realize that, you know, you think Feyre Archeron is there and they're at the River House. [00:52:36] Speaker B: Yes, yes, they are at the River House. [00:52:39] Speaker A: Because she said, I'm on a lawn. And across the lawn. [00:52:42] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:52:43] Speaker A: Is the bustling city. And the demons are walking around. So they think that hell is. [00:52:51] Speaker B: Oh. Or the Bat. The Bat. [00:52:54] Speaker A: No. What is the city? What is the city? In accordance Valaris. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Wow. Well, when I was reading that and when I was like, wait, what's going on? She's in this. This, like, beautiful place. I was like, oh, maybe that, like, you know, it's like kind of the upside down. Like, maybe where she was was Hell. And now she's going to like a. But, yeah, I did not see the Rhysand coming. [00:53:16] Speaker A: I didn't see Rhysand coming. But you know what I did see? I did see that hell was being lied about. And I totally saw that hell was going to be a better place. [00:53:24] Speaker B: Okay. [00:53:24] Speaker A: Than how it was described by the hysteria to everybody. I was like, I do not think it's going to be a bad place. Like, I don't think it's going to be ugly and fire and brimstone and dark and nasty. [00:53:34] Speaker B: Right. [00:53:35] Speaker A: I actually do think that it's probably going be just like what Sarah did in Acotar, which was like, talk poorly about the Night Court. [00:53:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:41] Speaker A: And then they get there and it's the nicest thing you've ever seen. So she's kind of doing. It seems like maybe she's doing. Yeah, maybe a little bit is here. But they're like, this isn't Hell. But I'm like, is this like. Have they been talking about Hell? [00:53:55] Speaker B: Okay, so it's not like she didn't. She made a mistake. She went somewhere up. Like, she shouldn't have gone. Like, that's what hell is. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Maybe. [00:54:02] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay. [00:54:04] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:54:05] Speaker B: Or like it just like, as another world. Yeah. I mean, I'm so confused. I was so confused with all the worlds and. Yeah. But yeah, no, it's interesting. I. Did you read anything about how they might have a crossover before you read the End? [00:54:22] Speaker A: I had heard that there was a bit of a crossover, but I didn't know how. [00:54:26] Speaker B: Okay, okay. Yeah, I didn't know how either. I thought. I don't know. And maybe this is true, but. But, like, I thought I saw somewhere that Bryce is Azrael's cousin, which could actually make sense in terms of, like, if he's the one with the dagger, you know, and there's that whole story about the sword and the dagger. Whatever. Yeah, so that could make sense. [00:54:46] Speaker A: That could totally make sense. [00:54:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm super excited to see how this unfolds, but it seems like she landed in a good place because wasn't ready to cut her head. [00:54:57] Speaker B: Yeah. And honestly, though, like, I would prefer it if, like, it's like, we just went into Acotar now. [00:55:04] Speaker A: Thanks so much. This has been so fun, but we're over it. Hunt and everybody else could just die. [00:55:09] Speaker B: I know. I mean, I. [00:55:12] Speaker A: Okay. Whatever happens in this next book, I'm excited to see. I need to understand what's going on with my angel Aidas. [00:55:19] Speaker B: I know. [00:55:19] Speaker A: Here's the thing. I was put off at the end when. What is the angel that's annoying and trying to murder everybody? [00:55:29] Speaker B: Wait, which one? Angel? The harpy? [00:55:32] Speaker A: Not the harpy. The Asteri. [00:55:36] Speaker B: Oh, a Wriggles. [00:55:37] Speaker A: Riglas. [00:55:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Rigel. [00:55:39] Speaker A: I read that name. I'm like, I am not remembering this name. I am curious because he admitted that he was the kitty cat. [00:55:50] Speaker B: Right, Right. [00:55:51] Speaker A: And I was like, excuse me. So who have we been seeing? Who have we been meeting with? [00:55:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because. So I don't think we actually saw Aidas in this book. [00:56:01] Speaker A: So the only first time we saw Aidas was in the. [00:56:04] Speaker B: Yes. Oh, you mean, like. No, I think we remember because in. [00:56:08] Speaker A: This book, he showed up in the apartment as the kid. [00:56:11] Speaker B: I think. I think that was. That was the only time it was, like, in this book. Yeah, that was the only time we saw Aidas in this book. And so. [00:56:17] Speaker A: And it wasn't him. [00:56:18] Speaker B: Wasn't him. Yeah. [00:56:19] Speaker A: But in the first book. [00:56:20] Speaker B: In the first book, I think it was. Yeah. [00:56:22] Speaker A: Okay. [00:56:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I know I was upset, but yeah, I mean, because it makes sense, because the whole story he told her, like, it happened where he was in love with the starborn queen or whatever. [00:56:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:34] Speaker B: So I don't think it's like, he's a bad guy, you know, and we just don't know it. [00:56:39] Speaker A: I need to see more of him. [00:56:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:41] Speaker A: I need to see. Okay, here's who I need to see more of. I need to see more of Aidas. I actually also want to see more of Apollyon. [00:56:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Apollyon. Yeah. [00:56:49] Speaker A: I Like him. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:51] Speaker A: All the princes of hell. Honestly, Leonardo. [00:56:53] Speaker B: Yeah, totally. [00:56:54] Speaker A: Like, I kind of. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I love it. [00:56:55] Speaker A: They're on the right side of history. You need to say it. I need to. Where is. Where is Jessiba Roga? My girl. [00:57:02] Speaker B: I know, I know. I love her. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Love her. Need to see more of her. Here's the thing about her. She knows exactly what the. [00:57:09] Speaker B: Is going. Yeah. Oh my God. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Is she just waiting for them to figure it out? [00:57:12] Speaker B: I love how like Bryce will call her and ask her something and she'd be like, no. And then it shows up like, whatever. [00:57:17] Speaker A: She's answer go, yes, she loves her. [00:57:20] Speaker B: Yeah, she does. [00:57:21] Speaker A: She wants the best friend her. Okay. I need to see more of that. I need to understand what's going to go on with this new understanding that the Viper Queen has with Therion. [00:57:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:57:32] Speaker A: I feel like the River Queen, maybe the Sea queen, whatever. I feel like they're going to rise up against Therian. [00:57:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:38] Speaker A: There's going to be something there. He's not going to be able to get away unscathed from that. And. Yeah, it remains to be seen if Bryce comes back. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, one question I had. So they kept like, you know, there was that whole thing about Danika and like being a bloodhound and. [00:57:55] Speaker A: Help me God. Yes. Sorry, I'm just thinking. I want to hear this. But yeah. Also backsy and we haven't talked about. [00:58:03] Speaker B: Oh, I love him. [00:58:04] Speaker A: He just wants friends. [00:58:05] Speaker B: He really does. [00:58:06] Speaker A: He's just trying to like prove himself. The hellhound. [00:58:11] Speaker B: He lost the love of his life. Yeah, I did like that reveal. So was revealed that Baxian. Yeah. Was mates with Danika. Yeah. But the whole like, so they kept mentioning, you know, there was a whole like family lineage thing. Like she could smell. Sniff out people's family lineages, which I was like, that's kind of weird. But so. But then there was something in the end where it was like basically shifters or the wolves or whatever are actually Fae. Yeah. But then there was something about Hunt. There was like a little questionable. Like, well, what is his? Is he fae, part Fae or like. I don't know. [00:58:52] Speaker A: Yeah. People kept saying that his scent was weird. Like there's something off. [00:58:55] Speaker B: Yes. [00:58:56] Speaker A: With him. [00:58:56] Speaker B: I think it was Mordec. Mordoc. That was like, there's something going on with your scent. Yeah. Which like, because you know, there's that whole fae mated thing. Like they're the kind of the psychos about the maiden and so that would make sense that if he were perfect. Yeah. I don't know. [00:59:14] Speaker A: We'll see. Yeah, I guess it remains to be seen. [00:59:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:18] Speaker A: I'm really excited to start this next book. [00:59:21] Speaker B: So excited. Yeah. I mean, if my baby Rhysand is. [00:59:24] Speaker A: In it, honey, I'm gonna be there every night. [00:59:28] Speaker B: Open it up. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Open the schools. I'm trying to think here. Anything else? [00:59:38] Speaker B: Any other like theories or questions? I don't think so. So basically you think I should read this? What? I. These like I just like put down a couple of like most disgusting comments. [00:59:52] Speaker A: Made sure you do that. And then I want to talk to you a little bit about my casting choices. [00:59:57] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Let's go there. I actually don't even know if I can. I'm going to start with. I think I'm going to start and end with this one. [01:00:04] Speaker A: Okay, let's do it. [01:00:05] Speaker B: The slap and slide of their bodies meeting fill the room. [01:00:09] Speaker A: Funny. I highlighted that as well. I will not go back and referencing. But I highlighted it because I could not believe that this is what I was reading. [01:00:17] Speaker B: Not my words. These are not my words. [01:00:19] Speaker A: No, no, no. These words would never come from you. You angel. [01:00:24] Speaker B: No. I love Sarah J. Maas. Like, it just. I just. I love her totally. It just the sex didn't work for me. [01:00:33] Speaker A: No, it didn't work for me. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't honest. Smutty, nasty, freak nasty level. It was like a five out of five. [01:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:00:43] Speaker A: You know what I mean? [01:00:44] Speaker B: Even more so than. Even more so than Nesta and Cassie. [01:00:48] Speaker A: Oh, this blows that out of the water. [01:00:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know. [01:00:53] Speaker A: Okay, keep going. Well. [01:00:54] Speaker B: Oh God. Okay, so one more. Okay. I think you probably saw this. That like he would always say that like when he was on top of her, she was impaling her. [01:01:07] Speaker A: So. Yeah. What was that? What was that? [01:01:12] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:01:14] Speaker A: She did love to use impaling as. As a. Like to. To drum up that image. [01:01:20] Speaker B: Yes, yes. And I was like. Well, that's not. I'm confused. [01:01:24] Speaker A: Not her being up on a steak. What's going on? [01:01:27] Speaker B: God. Not her being what's like in Camelot. [01:01:31] Speaker A: Not Vlad the Impaler, King Arthur. Yeah, that was rough. [01:01:39] Speaker B: It was very rough. So, yeah, that's basically. I can't read anything else. [01:01:44] Speaker A: We would do a Dirty Dozen this week, but it is just so out of bounds and with my. My virginal mouth is not saying I can't. [01:01:51] Speaker B: I mean, I couldn't read it. I wanted to close my eyes, you know. Poor Syrinx. Poor Syrinx. [01:01:56] Speaker A: Where's my baby? [01:01:57] Speaker B: When they. Yeah, when they Would start having sex. He would. He would, like, go out of the. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Room, kick the door closed. [01:02:02] Speaker B: He'd go to the bathroom and kick it closed. [01:02:05] Speaker A: Like, same. Seriously, Tag yourself. I'm feelings. [01:02:10] Speaker B: I know. I mean, towards the end, like, the last scene, I really. I've just, like, skipped over it. [01:02:14] Speaker A: I'm over the two of them, frankly, like, give me the adventure. Do not give me them as a. As a couple to listen to. I don't care. I'd rather see the blooming relationships that some of these other characters are developing. [01:02:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:25] Speaker A: If you want to give me some sex scenes with them, fine. I don't need to hear about the nastiness that's going on between Hunt and Bryce. [01:02:32] Speaker B: No. God, so gross. [01:02:36] Speaker A: Terrible. Do you want to hear about my. My casting choices? We'll talk a little bit about this. I kind of sprinkled this in as we were talking about the books, but let's talk about them one by one. And I'm talking about. I. I cast this book out. Okay. I think I talked about some of these casting choices in my last episode, but here's. Okay, so for Bryce, you know, that's very hard for me. [01:02:56] Speaker B: Yes. [01:02:57] Speaker A: I am casting her in. Is the singer named BB Rexa. Have you seen Bibi Rexa? You have to type her in specifically. B E. B E. Yeah. R, E, X, H, A. Red hair. Type that in. Google that. [01:03:09] Speaker B: Okay. Red hair. Interesting. I see it. I see it. [01:03:16] Speaker A: That's who is coming to mind for me. [01:03:18] Speaker B: Yep. [01:03:19] Speaker A: Okay. So that's who I'm putting a stake in for. For Bryce. [01:03:23] Speaker B: Okay. [01:03:23] Speaker A: At home. Hunt, you are a child of the new millennium. Of course. Did you watch the film? I'm sure you have. I know it was in DVD up there in Barrington, Illinois. The Emperor's New Groove. [01:03:39] Speaker B: Yes. Okay. Yes. Yeah, I'm like, you know, I saw it once. [01:03:44] Speaker A: You remember it. [01:03:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:45] Speaker A: You can conjure up what I'm saying. I cannot disconnect Hunt from cross the, like, tall, handsome, but idiotic, like, bodyguard of the queen in that film. [01:03:58] Speaker B: Okay, okay. What is his. What's his character name? [01:04:02] Speaker A: Kr. Like, I just type in K, R. [01:04:03] Speaker B: O, N, K. Oh, my God. Okay. Yeah, I can see it. [01:04:07] Speaker A: That's who I'm envisioning. [01:04:09] Speaker B: I know who this guy is. He was in something else, too, but. [01:04:13] Speaker A: I'm talking about the character, not the. [01:04:14] Speaker B: Actor who voices him. [01:04:15] Speaker A: Okay. [01:04:15] Speaker B: Because he was in Seinfeld. [01:04:16] Speaker A: Yeah, he was. Okay. But not the actor that voices him. [01:04:19] Speaker B: But, like, physically the character itself. Oh, my God. No. [01:04:24] Speaker A: So either that character Or Carrie Underwood's husband, Mike Fisher. [01:04:29] Speaker B: Do I even want to look him up? [01:04:31] Speaker A: Not necessarily, but if you want to just take a gander and just. [01:04:35] Speaker B: Is he a hockey player? [01:04:35] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a hockey player. I have a new. Do you see the vision? [01:04:41] Speaker B: I see the vision. [01:04:42] Speaker A: You see the fantasy? [01:04:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:04:44] Speaker A: It's giving that. [01:04:45] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Well, well, because. Yeah, he's. He's giving a little cte. You know what I mean? [01:04:54] Speaker A: Okay. [01:04:54] Speaker B: Which is possible. [01:04:55] Speaker A: It's very possible. Those teeth are not real. [01:04:59] Speaker B: But Hunt is giving a little CTE. [01:05:01] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, after 200 years of the. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Helmet being on and killing, every time. [01:05:07] Speaker A: He puts that helmet on, I'm like, burn that helmet. [01:05:09] Speaker B: I know. [01:05:10] Speaker A: Sounds terrible. Okay, I have a new casting for Run. [01:05:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I told you Skrillex. [01:05:16] Speaker A: I told you Skrillex. [01:05:17] Speaker B: Okay. [01:05:17] Speaker A: But the only other actor that I could see, actually, if we're gonna stick to that costume, if we're gonna stick to that, like piercings and tattoos and stuff, the only other actor that comes to mind to me that can pull that off is Jared Leto. [01:05:31] Speaker B: Love it. Love it. Yep. I think it's perfect. [01:05:35] Speaker A: That's. That's who I'm staking. [01:05:36] Speaker B: That's a vision. Y. [01:05:38] Speaker A: Okay. Corn Cormac. I am casting him as a gentleman named Sam Reed. I've casted him in another thing before. He is currently an actor in the. The show adaptation of Interview with a Vampire. He's the blonde. [01:05:51] Speaker B: Okay, okay. Interview. Let me see. [01:05:57] Speaker A: And I think. [01:05:57] Speaker B: Okay, okay. Yeah, I could see that. That's who I'm saying. [01:06:01] Speaker A: Okay, okay. Therian, now listen. Hear me out here. [01:06:05] Speaker B: I want to hear it with the. [01:06:07] Speaker A: Okay, you are going to understand where I'm coming from when I say this. [01:06:09] Speaker B: Okay. [01:06:10] Speaker A: All of the, like, really charismatic, really sort of like playful, flirtatious dynamics that Thean is bringing, I was like, there is someone who I have seen play that role really well in other. Other movies or shows. [01:06:26] Speaker B: Source. Yeah. [01:06:27] Speaker A: And I don't know if you'll agree with me on this, but I was like, I. He plays it so well. And that's. Matt, you good? [01:06:34] Speaker B: Okay. I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. And he's a little bit like that moment when Tharion just kissed Bryce on the mouth and then Hunt just laughed. So he's like a little bit, like, non threatening, but also. Yeah, he can. [01:06:51] Speaker A: He can be a little dark, too. And I think I thought about that because he played that character of, I think, Tony so well on the Crown where he kind of had that Same behavior, you know, very charismatic, but flirtatious. Yep. You know. [01:07:05] Speaker B: Yeah. A little dangerous. [01:07:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay. Female mystic. The Fan Deer. Alpha Live. Tyler. [01:07:15] Speaker B: Love it. Love. She's un. Aging. [01:07:18] Speaker A: Un aging. Full lips. [01:07:19] Speaker B: Doesn't age. [01:07:20] Speaker A: Long black hair. [01:07:21] Speaker B: Yep, got it. [01:07:22] Speaker A: That's who I saw for myself. Celestine. Okay, so I have two. Okay. For Celestine and Hypaxia, I have two, like, young queens. Right. I was thinking about other people. For Celestina, I'm. I'm casting her as Keke Palmer. [01:07:35] Speaker B: Love it. Love it. [01:07:37] Speaker A: And for Hypaxia or. Yeah, Hypaxia. I'm casting her as Amanda Steinberg, who is. She was in the Hunger Games, but she's been a number of different. She played Rue in the Hunger Games, but she's been in a number of different okay things. [01:07:51] Speaker B: Oh, like her. Yep. Yes, Yep. I can see that. Yeah, yeah. [01:07:54] Speaker A: Okay. Flynn. I'm casting him as Sam Clark. Claflin. [01:07:59] Speaker B: We talked about this. Right? Claflin. [01:08:02] Speaker A: I've talked. I've casted him also. [01:08:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, I can see that. Yeah. He's a little piece of, you know. [01:08:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Declan, I had a really hard time thinking about this one, but just through some probing, I settled on Eddie Redmayne. [01:08:18] Speaker B: Can see it. Yeah, I can see it. I love my boy. Eddie Redmayne. Yeah, absolutely. Love, love him. You know what? I loved him in Les Mis. [01:08:29] Speaker A: An old. Tried the True. Yes. [01:08:31] Speaker B: We love it when he's saying he empty chairs and empty tables. I don't know if you remember that, but it was a good rendition from. [01:08:38] Speaker A: The Off Broadway production of Les Mis. [01:08:40] Speaker B: Yes. Huh? Empty. He does. He does have, like. His face is like. You're British. [01:08:48] Speaker A: Oh, it's like a. Like, don't you think that you can. Obviously you can, like. Yes. You can identify when somebody's British. [01:08:54] Speaker B: Totally. [01:08:55] Speaker A: I can. [01:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah. You're like. That is a map of Britain right there, right? Yeah. [01:09:01] Speaker A: Yes. [01:09:03] Speaker B: Love it. [01:09:03] Speaker A: Okay. The hind. Okay. I really like this casting. [01:09:08] Speaker B: Okay. [01:09:08] Speaker A: I'm casting her as Megan Fahey. [01:09:11] Speaker B: Okay. So I have a cast actually, for that. Okay, I can see that. Megan Fahrenheit. He. I have got Margot Robbie. [01:09:20] Speaker A: Okay, I can see that, too. I'll throw in another option that I wrote down here. Rosamund Pike. [01:09:25] Speaker B: That works because she's a little creep. Like, she. I could see her. Yeah, she would be good. [01:09:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So those are two. Those are three white blonde women. [01:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:33] Speaker A: That definitely sort of the, like, cl. [01:09:35] Speaker B: I mean, like, even January Jones, I think. Yeah. Charlize Theron would be, but like, that sort of like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:09:43] Speaker A: I love that. I think we've got a lot of good options for the Hind. Okay. Apollon Apollyon, however. Yeah, I'm doing Pedro Pascal. [01:09:51] Speaker B: Well, we have to do him somewhere. Like, we have to have him somewhere. [01:09:54] Speaker A: He stays booked and busy. In my world. [01:09:56] Speaker B: Yes. [01:09:57] Speaker A: He's every employed. [01:09:59] Speaker B: We really should pick out a character in every single book. Like, even. It's a very small character. [01:10:05] Speaker A: The Otter. Like the. The. [01:10:07] Speaker B: The delivery otter by Pascal. [01:10:11] Speaker A: Absolutely, absolutely. He gets a job anywhere he goes. [01:10:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:15] Speaker A: Aidas, you want to know my. [01:10:16] Speaker B: I do want to know. Aidas. Don't ruin it for me, though. [01:10:19] Speaker A: Brad Pitt. [01:10:21] Speaker B: I love that. Okay, you outdid yourself. [01:10:25] Speaker A: I go. I'm still going. [01:10:27] Speaker B: Okay, keep going. [01:10:28] Speaker A: Okay. Regelis Regalis, whatever. The actor. I think it's Ewan Rio. Rion. Don't you? And you and Rion. He was the actor who portrayed Ramsay Bolton in Game of Thrones. [01:10:42] Speaker B: God, I hate him. [01:10:43] Speaker A: I know, but he's like. So I just hate him. [01:10:46] Speaker B: Yes. And they describe him as, like, looking like a little, like, kind of like a teenage boy. Yeah. [01:10:51] Speaker A: Okay, so I've got him for that. The dragon Ariadna or whatever. [01:10:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:10:56] Speaker A: I have casted Jenny Ortega. [01:10:59] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, tell me what she's in again. [01:11:01] Speaker A: She played Wednesday after Adams in the recent, you know, Wednesday show on Netflix. [01:11:07] Speaker B: Oh, okay. I can see her. Yeah, yeah. Okay. [01:11:11] Speaker A: Any flashbacks to Danica? You know who I've casted her as? Anya Taylor Joy. [01:11:16] Speaker B: Really? Oh, wait, because you then changed her to a blonde in your mind. [01:11:21] Speaker A: Yes, because I'm like. Anything that I've seen of her is, like, blonde, and they talk about her with blonde. And. [01:11:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:26] Speaker A: You know, all the streaks in her hair. And I'm like, I'm just gonna throw Anya in here. [01:11:30] Speaker B: I mean, I guess she freaks me out, though. [01:11:32] Speaker A: Danika. [01:11:32] Speaker B: No, Any. [01:11:35] Speaker A: Her eyes. [01:11:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. She's a good actress, but there's something. Yeah, I'm gonna think about that. [01:11:40] Speaker A: Okay. [01:11:41] Speaker B: You know who's. Who's the. Who was the one in Ozark? [01:11:45] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, she's. She's a little gritty. [01:11:48] Speaker B: She's a little gritty. Yeah. Maggie. No, no, no, no. What's her name? Yeah, but you know who I'm talking. [01:11:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I definitely know who you're talking about. You know who I have for the Hound for Baxian? [01:12:03] Speaker B: Oh, Julia Garner. [01:12:05] Speaker A: Yeah, Julia Garner. Garner. [01:12:06] Speaker B: Garner. Okay. [01:12:07] Speaker A: Like, I like that choice. The Hound, Baxian. I have Gerard Butler. [01:12:13] Speaker B: I can see it. I can see it. Here's my thing with that. I find Baxian like a little bit more, a little bit deeper than that. I don't know, I mean, just Gerard Butler I see as more of like a hunt. [01:12:28] Speaker A: Okay. [01:12:29] Speaker B: You know, and so back and I see as. And he was described as like being like, not as good looking as like Pollux, but like there was something unique about him. And so. I don't know. I don't know. I'll have to think about that. [01:12:42] Speaker A: You have to think about that one. The Harpy. I have Greta Lee. [01:12:46] Speaker B: Who's that? [01:12:47] Speaker A: She is a beautiful actress. [01:12:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:50] Speaker A: She's been in a number of different things. [01:12:53] Speaker B: Okay. Oh, I see. See that? Yep. See the vision with the short bob? [01:12:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I have that for her. Okay. The Viper Queen. I have Lucy Liu. [01:13:03] Speaker B: That works. Oh my God, I love it. [01:13:05] Speaker A: I have Lucy Liu. And the River Queen. You want to know who I have? Maya Rudolph. [01:13:10] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I think that's my favorite one. [01:13:13] Speaker A: Yes. Maya Rudolph. I have for her. [01:13:16] Speaker B: Love it. [01:13:17] Speaker A: Jesper Roga. I told you. Michelle Yeoh. [01:13:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:20] Speaker A: For Isaiah, I have Jeremy Renner. [01:13:23] Speaker B: Praise it. I saw him as black. [01:13:25] Speaker A: Did you? [01:13:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Isn't he black? [01:13:27] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:13:28] Speaker B: Do. What are you. Have you been seeing fan art? [01:13:30] Speaker A: No, but I should look. [01:13:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. [01:13:32] Speaker A: Stay posted. That could always change. These are subject to change. [01:13:36] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [01:13:37] Speaker A: For Fury, I have Rooney Mara. Rooney Mara. [01:13:40] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:13:40] Speaker A: Yeah. She was in the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, so she already kind of played that kind of role. [01:13:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:45] Speaker A: For Juniper. I told you, Joanie. Jody Turner Smith. [01:13:48] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [01:13:49] Speaker A: The Autumn King. I have Christopher Hivju who was the red haired actor in Game of Thrones that played Tormund. [01:13:57] Speaker B: Oh my God. Funny. Oh, I can see that. Okay. [01:13:59] Speaker A: He'd have to turn a little mean, but we can make it work. [01:14:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:02] Speaker A: Emeline, the mom. [01:14:04] Speaker B: Ember. [01:14:05] Speaker A: Ember. [01:14:05] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. [01:14:06] Speaker A: I don't know where I got Ember. [01:14:09] Speaker B: Oh, my God. It's coming up. [01:14:10] Speaker A: Characters. Yeah, yeah, Ember. I have Connie Britton. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Love it. We got to stick her in. She's great. [01:14:16] Speaker A: She's great. She's got to have a role everywhere. [01:14:18] Speaker B: Love it. Friday Night Lights. Totally. [01:14:20] Speaker A: And Randall, the stepdad. I have Harold Perrineau who played Marcutio in Romeo And Juliet, the 1996. [01:14:27] Speaker B: Oh, yes. Okay. Love him. He was in Lost. Yeah. Yep. [01:14:35] Speaker A: Love that. So that's my casting. [01:14:38] Speaker B: I think that's perfect. So we'll have to. You know what? Mikey, our dear friend, just an angel. Mikey is going to be a Special guest, next episode. I'm wondering if we should either have him do his own casting or listen to it and either agree or disagree. [01:14:58] Speaker A: I think a little bit of both. [01:14:59] Speaker B: Okay, let's do it. [01:15:00] Speaker A: Like, listen. Tell us what he thinks about these choices and tell us what he would keep the same, what he would do differently. We're open to any. Any and all suggestions. [01:15:08] Speaker B: Perfect. [01:15:09] Speaker A: But we will win an Oscar for this lineup. [01:15:11] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [01:15:13] Speaker A: Love it. [01:15:15] Speaker B: Okay. [01:15:15] Speaker A: Okay, perfect. Well, should we play a rousing game of mash? [01:15:19] Speaker B: Yeah, just quickly. Should we play a quick game or. Let's just do it real quick. [01:15:23] Speaker A: We're not going to do all the fancy frills. [01:15:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. So should I. I don't have a pen. Should we just write it on our computer? [01:15:30] Speaker A: Yeah, we can just do that. Technology. Oh, no, I think we're good. Thank you. Christian. Christian. Christian wants to keep us analog. [01:15:42] Speaker B: Perfect. Perfect. [01:15:43] Speaker A: He offered up a pin, which we appreciate. Okay, so let's start with boys. Partners. [01:15:52] Speaker B: Okay. I'm gonna say for mine, I'm gonna say. [01:15:57] Speaker A: And if you have a casting, your. [01:15:59] Speaker B: Your going to write down mine. Yeah. [01:16:01] Speaker A: Okay. [01:16:01] Speaker B: Barack Obama. Okay. Let's see. I'm going to say run, I guess. Yeah. Cormic. [01:16:16] Speaker A: Okay. [01:16:17] Speaker B: I mean, Aidas. [01:16:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:19] Speaker B: How many do we have to do? Five. [01:16:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:21] Speaker B: Pedro Pascal. I mean, no, four. [01:16:23] Speaker A: It's four. Oh, four each. [01:16:24] Speaker B: Okay. [01:16:24] Speaker A: Okay. Listen, do you want to cast. Do you want it to be Barack Obama himself, or do you want to cast somebody as. [01:16:31] Speaker B: I want Barack Obama himself. [01:16:33] Speaker A: I know you do, girl. [01:16:35] Speaker B: You know what? I thought about this because I'm like. I was like, you know, maybe like, Michelle would be like, no, no, no, You. I'm not leaving him. And I would be like, I take both. [01:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah, you're like both of them. Both of them. Okay. Rune, just as. As who? Would you cast him as any. [01:16:52] Speaker B: Oh, run. I mean, you put him as Jared Leto. Okay. Yeah, yeah. [01:16:57] Speaker A: What about Cormac? [01:16:59] Speaker B: Cormac. I actually put him as. What's his name? Sam. The guy from Outlander. Oh, that's his name. No. Is it Sam Heughan? Just put Outlander guy. [01:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah, Outlander man. Aidas. [01:17:15] Speaker B: Aidas. It is his. Brad Pitt. [01:17:18] Speaker A: Okay, great. [01:17:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Honestly, though, like Brad Pitt or George Clooney. [01:17:24] Speaker A: I put Brad Pitt because I thought he was blonde. Oh, that's why I kept it. Okay, I did not tell you my. My casting for Ethan. Okay. There's two people. There is a boy who is on Grey's Anatomy right now. His name is Nico Taro. [01:17:38] Speaker B: Okay. [01:17:39] Speaker A: And for Whatever reason, his face kept popping into my mind. Or a boy named Darren Barnett. And he was in the show. Never have I ever. The one that was by our girl. [01:17:50] Speaker B: Mindy Kaling. [01:17:51] Speaker A: Yeah, Mindy Kaling. And I just realized that. [01:17:53] Speaker B: Okay, so then. So where are we now? So I have. [01:17:59] Speaker A: Okay, so I'm gonna give you my. [01:18:01] Speaker B: Give you. Yeah. Okay. [01:18:03] Speaker A: Okay, so I'm gonna do Macron. [01:18:08] Speaker B: Who? [01:18:09] Speaker A: The French president. [01:18:10] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [01:18:13] Speaker A: Looks like there might be an opening sometime soon. Love it. [01:18:16] Speaker B: Yep. Yep. [01:18:18] Speaker A: And I'm gonna do. Let's see here. [01:18:21] Speaker B: Remember that thing I sent you that was, like, just a teacher? Disciplinary. [01:18:25] Speaker A: Pretty much. I didn't know. They had, like, 24 years between them. And he met. [01:18:29] Speaker B: Oh, she was 18 when he was 16 when she was his teacher. [01:18:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I knew that there was that big age difference. I don't. I don't think I've done the research into the background, but then I'm understanding that his parents told her to, like, back off, and she was like, I can't. [01:18:42] Speaker B: No, I mean, in. In other countries, she'd be in prison right now. [01:18:46] Speaker A: Totally. [01:18:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:48] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus. Okay, here we go. I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do Therian as Matthew. Good. [01:18:55] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:56] Speaker A: I'm gonna do Ethan as Nico. [01:19:00] Speaker B: Ethan. [01:19:03] Speaker A: And I'm gonna do Apollyon as Pedro Pascal. [01:19:07] Speaker B: Sounds about right. Okay. All right, and then what's next? [01:19:14] Speaker A: Jobs. Let's do jobs. [01:19:15] Speaker B: Jobs. Okay. Let's think about. How about. Oh, Medwich. [01:19:26] Speaker A: Okay. Left that. [01:19:29] Speaker B: How about working at the Chicago Impound? [01:19:34] Speaker A: You could get a discount. [01:19:38] Speaker B: Let's see, what else? I don't even know. Jobs like delivery otter. [01:19:48] Speaker A: Again. [01:19:48] Speaker B: Delivery otter. Yeah. And then I guess River Investigation unit. [01:19:55] Speaker A: Yep. I love that. Okay, great. I'm gonna say Mystic. [01:20:00] Speaker B: Okay. Oh. Oh, gosh. [01:20:02] Speaker A: Okay. [01:20:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:03] Speaker A: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Ophian Rebel. Oh. [01:20:09] Speaker B: Oh, that's good. [01:20:12] Speaker A: I am going to say else. Is there. There's all types of things. What is it? What? Where are they? There. At the Crystal palace with the Eternal City. [01:20:28] Speaker B: Eternal City, Yeah. [01:20:29] Speaker A: Janitor at the Eternal City. Perfect. [01:20:31] Speaker B: Yep. [01:20:32] Speaker A: No, I should say maintenance. Maintenance woman. So I can turn those pipes off. [01:20:37] Speaker B: Nice. [01:20:39] Speaker A: And river cruise director. Love. And it. [01:20:44] Speaker B: Okay. [01:20:44] Speaker A: East Rose river cruise director. [01:20:46] Speaker B: Watch out for Dave Matthews, man. [01:20:48] Speaker A: Yeah. At all times. [01:20:49] Speaker B: River cruise director. Okay. All right, so then what's next? [01:20:55] Speaker A: Do we want to do pets? Do we want to do kings? [01:20:59] Speaker B: Let's do pets. [01:21:00] Speaker A: Okay. [01:21:00] Speaker B: Pets. [01:21:01] Speaker A: What are your pets? [01:21:02] Speaker B: Well, Syrinx. [01:21:03] Speaker A: Okay. [01:21:06] Speaker B: And. [01:21:09] Speaker A: I. [01:21:12] Speaker B: Luna. [01:21:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:13] Speaker B: Birdie. [01:21:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:15] Speaker B: And let's do Goofy. I Guess. [01:21:22] Speaker A: Yes. Okay, perfect. I too, am gonna do Birdie. I'm gonna do Syrinx. I'm gonna do Luna. And I'm gonna do. What are the alligator things in the river? [01:21:34] Speaker B: Oh, so backs. [01:21:35] Speaker A: So backs. Put the. So back. [01:21:36] Speaker B: Luna. And so back. Okay. [01:21:41] Speaker A: Okay. Also, we could keep it there to keep it brief. [01:21:45] Speaker B: Yeah, let's. [01:21:45] Speaker A: And then what? Number. Okay. Number of kids. [01:21:48] Speaker B: Okay. Let's see. [01:21:50] Speaker A: Or how long. How many years you want to live? [01:21:53] Speaker B: How many? Oh, I can make up anything. [01:21:55] Speaker A: Yeah, it can be anything. [01:21:59] Speaker B: Okay, let's go with 1. 10. [01:22:01] Speaker A: Okay. [01:22:02] Speaker B: I'm always going over 100, by the way. 104. [01:22:06] Speaker A: Okay. [01:22:07] Speaker B: 279. Okay. And let's go with 684. [01:22:12] Speaker A: Oh, hey. Okay, great. I am going to do 111. [01:22:17] Speaker B: Uhhuh. Angel eyes. [01:22:19] Speaker A: I'm going to do Immortal. [01:22:23] Speaker B: Oh, well, look, two. [01:22:26] Speaker A: I'm gonna do 45. And I'm gonna do 45. 900. [01:22:33] Speaker B: 900. Okay. [01:22:35] Speaker A: Oh, and can I also clarify with you. Where is your. For. I know we changed it last time. M. We changed it to C for castle. Where's your castle? [01:22:45] Speaker B: I mean, my castle is at this point in Velaris, because she's opened that up. [01:22:50] Speaker A: They're building a new development over there. In Velaris? [01:22:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:53] Speaker A: We gotta get in there. Okay. I love that. Where's your apartment? [01:22:58] Speaker B: My apartment is. I guess we'll say the meat market. [01:23:03] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Where's your shack? [01:23:05] Speaker B: My shack is in. I mean, the river. [01:23:10] Speaker A: Below. [01:23:10] Speaker B: Below. [01:23:11] Speaker A: Below. Okay. And then where is your house? [01:23:14] Speaker B: My house? Let's just say the suburbs. [01:23:18] Speaker A: Suburbs. Okay. [01:23:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Love that. [01:23:21] Speaker A: Okay. My castle is going to be in hell. [01:23:26] Speaker B: Okay. Castle in hell. [01:23:29] Speaker A: We're gonna do an apartment in. Let's see. Let's do it in Moonwood. [01:23:38] Speaker B: Love it. I always forget I'm at Moonwood. [01:23:40] Speaker A: Let's do a shack in the Bone Quarter. [01:23:46] Speaker B: Okay. [01:23:47] Speaker A: And let's do a house in. We'll do a house. Where do we want to do a house? Let's do a house in the. What's the city? What's the city that we. [01:24:03] Speaker B: Oh, Nathan. [01:24:04] Speaker A: Where the aer living? [01:24:06] Speaker B: Oh, Eternal city. [01:24:07] Speaker A: Eternal city. [01:24:09] Speaker B: Okay. All right. [01:24:11] Speaker A: Okay. Let me do a random number generator. You ready? [01:24:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:19] Speaker A: Okay. No, actually, Christian, let's get you involved in this number. Pick a number between one and ten. [01:24:24] Speaker B: Seven. [01:24:25] Speaker A: Great. Okay, so let's start. [01:24:26] Speaker B: Hold on. Seven. [01:24:27] Speaker A: Seven. [01:24:28] Speaker B: Okay. God, Christian, you screw us. [01:24:31] Speaker A: I love it. Okay, here we go. [01:24:32] Speaker B: Okay, hold on, hold on. You know me. I'm not gonna take away on this. [01:24:37] Speaker A: Two Three, four. Okay. All right. [01:24:41] Speaker B: I just did this wrong. [01:24:44] Speaker A: It better be good. [01:24:45] Speaker B: I didn't do it wrong. But did it kind of catty? [01:24:49] Speaker A: Catty wumpus? [01:24:50] Speaker B: Catty wumpus. [01:24:51] Speaker A: You know that word? Yes, I've heard that word. [01:24:54] Speaker B: It's a little silly. [01:24:55] Speaker A: It's a little silly. [01:24:56] Speaker B: All right, I got it. [01:24:58] Speaker A: She does not have it. [01:25:02] Speaker B: Here is your life. Do you want to hear your life? Sure. Okay. You are mated with Pedro Pascal as Apollyon. Yep. Your job is the river cruise director. [01:25:15] Speaker A: Yes. [01:25:17] Speaker B: You have Syrinx as a pet and sidekick. You are living for 900 years. Yeah. And you will be living in a shack in the bone quarter. [01:25:27] Speaker A: I love it. We're happy, we're healthy. [01:25:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:30] Speaker A: We're running for our lives. [01:25:32] Speaker B: There's longevity there. [01:25:33] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Here is your. Your world, your life. You were mated to room played by Jared Leto. [01:25:41] Speaker B: Okay. [01:25:42] Speaker A: You are a delivery otter. [01:25:44] Speaker B: Love it. [01:25:45] Speaker A: You also have Syrinx as a pet, and that's fine. We can share syring because they can walk through. [01:25:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Join custody. Yeah. [01:25:53] Speaker A: You 279 years, and you live in a shack below. Okay. [01:25:58] Speaker B: All right. We both live in shacks. [01:25:59] Speaker A: I love, but we're happy and we're healthy and we're fed. [01:26:03] Speaker B: You're a little bit healthier than me. [01:26:06] Speaker A: We'll see. Maybe my. My man from hell can protect me in the bone quarter. Yeah. I at least have that going for me. All right, well, thank you for listening. And as always, if you are feeling the vibe, rate and subscribe, we will be back soon where we'll be talking about House of Flame and Shadow, the third and most recent book, and the Crescent City series, and we cannot wait. [01:26:25] Speaker B: And we'll have a special guest. [01:26:27] Speaker A: Yes, we will. [01:26:27] Speaker B: So tune in. All right. Thank you to Christian McCann for keeping on our sound in check. And as always, thank you to the illustrious Lincoln Lodge in Chicago, Illinois. [01:26:37] Speaker A: All right. Bye. Bye. [01:26:39] Speaker B: Bye.