The Bold and the Beautiful

[00:00:10] Speaker A: Hi, and welcome to Spell Mountain, a romantasy podcast. I'm Deidre. [00:00:14] Speaker B: And I'm Jillian. [00:00:15] Speaker A: Hi. How you doing? I can't believe you're saying that's my voice. [00:00:21] Speaker B: No, that's like country. You know, I'm not good at accents. [00:00:26] Speaker A: No, I know. Me neither. [00:00:28] Speaker B: It's a wacky Thursday here, obviously. [00:00:29] Speaker A: It is. It is. It's freak. It's a freaky Thursday. Like, Freak Thursday. [00:00:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. There's no. Yeah, it's. It's Wacky Wednesday. Freaky Friday, but there's nothing for Thursday. Thursday. [00:00:41] Speaker A: Can. [00:00:41] Speaker B: Love Topsy Turvy. [00:00:44] Speaker A: Topsy Turvy Thursday. [00:00:45] Speaker B: I'm making that up. [00:00:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Topsy Turvy. Thurgood Marshall Thursday. [00:00:53] Speaker B: God bless. [00:00:55] Speaker A: That's the only third I could think of. [00:00:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Thorough Thursdays. [00:00:58] Speaker A: Thorough Thursdays. Yep. [00:01:00] Speaker B: That sounds like a porn category. [00:01:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Thorough or Thoroughly Thursday. [00:01:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:05] Speaker A: Yeah, that sounds like a. Like a high school girls podcast. Yeah. No. [00:01:12] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, we go from porn category to. This is like a teenage girls podcast, which is some weirdos fantasy out there. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Some weirdos. And we're definitely not a teenage girls podcast. We're close, but not. Yeah, no, no. [00:01:30] Speaker B: How are you? How are things? [00:01:32] Speaker A: They're pretty good. I went to court today. My court case is. It continues. [00:01:38] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, give us a rundown of what's going on. And cue the. Cue the legal music. [00:01:43] Speaker A: Yeah, cue it. Yeah. Waiting for that, too. [00:01:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:48] Speaker A: So I was going to go in person, but then I ended up going on Zoom, and I got to tell you, like, the municipal court, first district courthouse, room over. Zoom was. Was not. Not doing the. [00:02:04] Speaker B: You know, I can't imagine. The vibes were immaculate in there. [00:02:07] Speaker A: Terrible vibes. You know what I mean? It was like. Even the attorneys, like, you're like, what is going on? You know, they've got, like, kids in the background. I'm like, this is a serious thing. [00:02:19] Speaker B: I'd be like, electric chair immediately. [00:02:21] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. You know? And they're just, like, talking over each other. Like, no wonder this judge has sunglasses in his selfie. [00:02:31] Speaker B: And his profile picture. [00:02:32] Speaker A: And his profile. In his LinkedIn profile picture, he has sunglasses, and he's not even looking straight at the camera. [00:02:41] Speaker B: And dare I say it's a bit blurry. [00:02:43] Speaker A: It is a bit blurry. [00:02:44] Speaker B: You know, he's not putting his best out there. [00:02:46] Speaker A: I know he's not. He's not. [00:02:48] Speaker B: But, you know, that picture is somewhere on some sort of dating profile. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Oh. I mean, it basically was like. It seemed like a dating profile picture. I mean, terrible. But, I mean, really? I'm like, is this what we've come to? [00:03:02] Speaker B: I think at this point, Julian, you got to give it up to God. [00:03:06] Speaker A: I think he's forgotten about me, though. [00:03:08] Speaker B: Partially in this situation. I think he's going to circle the block and check on you in a minute. But he's like, I don't know. It feels beyond me now. [00:03:15] Speaker A: My cousin. I was talking to my cousin. My cousin was like, is. She was like, what if your mom had just popped up on the call? [00:03:25] Speaker B: That's something that your mom would absolutely. [00:03:26] Speaker A: She would absolutely do. And I was, like, making a joke, and I was like, yeah. She'd be like, your honor, I'm just here to fuck with my daughter. [00:03:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And the way that man looks, he'd be like. [00:03:34] Speaker A: He'd be like, all right. [00:03:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:37] Speaker A: My cousin, though, was like, no. She'd be like, your honor, my daughter didn't do it. And I'm like, I don't know who your mother is, but that's not my mother. [00:03:45] Speaker B: No. Your mother would be like, let's go ahead and execute her to the full extent of the law. [00:03:50] Speaker A: You should be. Lock her up. Lock her up. [00:03:52] Speaker B: That's the best place for. Honestly, a bed, a warm meal, Tax dollars at work. What is it in the. In the musical Chicago. The Mary Murder. Murder Mistresses of Cook County Jail. [00:04:09] Speaker A: The. The, like, Sellback Tango. [00:04:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:13] Speaker B: That's you. [00:04:13] Speaker A: That's. I mean, basically. Yep. [00:04:15] Speaker B: You're like, he. He rearranged my bumper. Yeah, he rear ended my bumper. And I sent him to jail. I sent him to jail. Yeah, you should think about that. [00:04:29] Speaker A: I really should. I will submit an original piece, write a musical about my experience. [00:04:34] Speaker B: I think it'd be compelling. [00:04:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Maybe you could do it at the Ravenswood Theater here in town. Yep. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Maybe I could do it at the Lincoln Lodge. [00:04:42] Speaker B: Oh, you certainly could. For 50 bucks an hour. Yeah, you could absolutely showc. Your. Your play in the room right next to us. The room where it happens. [00:04:52] Speaker A: The room where it happens. [00:04:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:04:54] Speaker A: I don't know. I'll think about it. [00:04:56] Speaker B: Okay, so it's Jillian versus the people of the United States of America win. Yeah. Like, when's the. [00:05:03] Speaker A: Oh, February 11th. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Right before Valentine's Day. Right. [00:05:05] Speaker A: You hate to see it. [00:05:08] Speaker B: You could be in jail. Getting you a little action in jail. And by the way, I don't think that we've, like, laid out that this is not, like, money laundering. [00:05:18] Speaker A: No, no, no. [00:05:19] Speaker B: It's literally confusion around who's at fault for a. [00:05:24] Speaker A: For a motor bender. [00:05:25] Speaker B: Bender. That Your boat of a car was not harmed. [00:05:29] Speaker A: Not. [00:05:29] Speaker B: But the other person was totaled and they ran into you. Which most people would say, well, I mean, that's absolutely their fault. [00:05:36] Speaker A: Right? [00:05:37] Speaker B: The person. [00:05:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:39] Speaker B: That rear ends you from behind. [00:05:40] Speaker A: But the cpd, they leave things out of their traffic reports, so, you know, we gotta go. We have to go to court and fight it. I mean, I was talking to a friend of mine and I was like. He was like, yeah, I've been. You know, I was at the Daily center in my. In my day, and I was like, you know what? When you go to the Daily center, it's like nobody wants to be there. Not one single person. [00:06:02] Speaker B: We've talked about this. Nobody wants to be in down downtown. [00:06:04] Speaker A: Nobody. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:05] Speaker A: And nobody wants to be downtown. Certainly nobody wants to be at 50 West Washington. Like. They do not. [00:06:14] Speaker B: That's a heinous place to be. It really is. You've lost your way once you're down there. Yeah, yeah. Good Lord. [00:06:21] Speaker A: I know. I know. [00:06:22] Speaker B: Well, in better news, what else has been going on? I know Earlier. Earlier this week, you and I went to go see the fabulous production of 6. [00:06:31] Speaker A: 6. What did you think? [00:06:32] Speaker B: I thought it was great. [00:06:33] Speaker A: I thought it was good, too. [00:06:33] Speaker B: I went into it a little hesitant. Not hesitant, but I was a little worried that we would have another. By the way, our resident warlock, Christian, cannot be in studio with us tonight. So he has given us the opportunity to record ourselves, and he's trying to ensure that we're not locked in here in this room to our deaths. And so there's just a hand. Like, cousin, is it. What? Like, what's the. What's the character in the Adams family? [00:07:03] Speaker A: Oh, God. Is it it or no, Cousin, it. [00:07:06] Speaker B: Has all the long hair. [00:07:07] Speaker A: Okay, but. Or it's like something. The thing. [00:07:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Or like the Shining. [00:07:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it's definitely giving that. Oh, I think we're in here. [00:07:17] Speaker A: All right. Are we good? [00:07:17] Speaker B: I think he's done his best. If we're. If we lose oxygen in here, we lose oxygen. It's how it's meant to be. [00:07:23] Speaker A: It's over. [00:07:25] Speaker B: But the musical was great. I had a great time. [00:07:28] Speaker A: I was not, like. I was not expecting, like, a concert style musical, you know, I thought it was like the. Whatever it would be like in the court of Henry vii. Like, you know, the court. Politics. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Listen, if history lessons had been taught in that style all the time growing up, I would know. Just troves of history. Yeah. [00:07:51] Speaker A: Everything. Everything. [00:07:52] Speaker B: Who are your favorite? Who were your favorites? [00:07:55] Speaker A: I can't remember their names. [00:07:57] Speaker B: No need to remember their names. I'll tell you who I liked. I like the divorcees and the one who basically outlived King Henry. [00:08:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. And she. Yeah, she was like, why the fuck are we talking about this? Like, why are we all compet with each other? Both of the women that were beheaded, it was like, well, that's that. I think that happened for a reason. [00:08:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And then also the woman that was. What was it? Jane Seymour, who was like, I love him. [00:08:24] Speaker A: Jane Seymour. You mean Anne Boleyn? [00:08:26] Speaker B: No, no, there's a. There is one named Jane Seymour. [00:08:29] Speaker A: No. [00:08:29] Speaker B: Yes. [00:08:30] Speaker A: Not the medicine woman. [00:08:31] Speaker B: I loved him for that. I'm sure. And all the other wives. Yeah, all the other wives are fighting. Being like, no. And you know how I love a character, like getting out there and saying like a very dramatic reading and being like, but the sun rises and I am not sure. And there was a lot of that going on. [00:09:03] Speaker A: Or like, like very sad. Like. And then I looked at his face and I knew. [00:09:12] Speaker B: Very bad. Very bad. You're like, whoa, whoa. [00:09:15] Speaker A: Let's turn the house lights. Oh, my God. It was a good show. [00:09:24] Speaker B: It was a great show. Great costumes, really great vocals. Especially that last girl. [00:09:30] Speaker A: I actually think she was good. [00:09:31] Speaker B: She was a. I think we saw a cast of understudies. [00:09:36] Speaker A: Do you? Did we? [00:09:37] Speaker B: Because I looked at the program and. [00:09:39] Speaker A: Just our luck, we're going to pay $130 to see a cast of understudies. [00:09:44] Speaker B: It's our lot in life. Jane Seymour was King Henry the eighth, Third wife. Shut up. [00:09:49] Speaker A: Seymour spelled like the medicine woman. Yeah. Wow. Or what's that? Jewelry. A commercial she's always in with like the. The heart. [00:10:00] Speaker B: You don't remember that? I do, but it's not. I don't have any, like, tangible things I can say about it. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Okay. [00:10:06] Speaker B: But I know what you're talking about. I just know she'd be out there in that prairie skirt every Tuesday night at like seven, followed by Touched by an Angel. And I was like, it's time for me. [00:10:18] Speaker A: It is. You didn't like Touch by an Angel. [00:10:21] Speaker B: I know you did. You'd be saddled. [00:10:26] Speaker A: I was upset. [00:10:28] Speaker B: You were like, whoa, let's get these blessings going. There is a lesson to be found. [00:10:35] Speaker A: What was. What was with me like, watching, like, Christian shows? Like. [00:10:39] Speaker B: Like, did you like seventh Heaven? Yes. You're like, wow. They are morally. They are on the right side. Yeah, they are. [00:10:46] Speaker A: Yeah. That mom, she really. I mean, she put in a lot of work with those six kids. [00:10:52] Speaker B: God, we Were being indoctrinated. [00:10:54] Speaker A: We really. [00:10:55] Speaker B: You were. I was like, I don't have time for this. I gotta go. Six kids. Sounds like a mess. Not for me. [00:11:01] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:11:03] Speaker B: So you'd watch 7th Heaven. Then you'd switch over and be like, my stories are on. And it'd be medicine woman, Dr. Quinn, medicine woman followed by Touch by an Angel. [00:11:11] Speaker A: And Xena was in there at some point, but I don't think I watched a lot of her. [00:11:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:11:15] Speaker A: But the. You know what I was thinking about when we were reading this book? Did you ever watch. It was a soap opera, so I don't know how I was watching it. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Was it. [00:11:25] Speaker A: There was a vampire in it. [00:11:27] Speaker B: Probably Passion had some crazy shit going on. You don't find a vampire in General Hospital. [00:11:33] Speaker A: I mean, maybe. [00:11:34] Speaker B: Well, I can tell you for a fact you don't because it comes on at about 3pm here while I'm at home. Oh. You know, and I have my stay at home. Mom. Television watching habits. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Do you watch it? [00:11:44] Speaker B: It's. Oh, so I like high level, follow the storylines. The other day I put my hand on my hip. I was like, they switch this character out. What's going on? Who's this? Meanwhile, I have no idea what's going on. Then I'll look over there and I'll be like, I thought he died in a bombing. No idea what's going on. No. [00:12:03] Speaker A: Doesn't he have an evil twin? What? [00:12:06] Speaker B: No. I thought she died in childbirth. [00:12:07] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I got to look up this vampire soap opera. [00:12:14] Speaker B: It was definitely Passions. [00:12:15] Speaker A: You think so? [00:12:16] Speaker B: I think so. Bold and the Beautiful. Was it Bold and. I used to love Bold and the Beautiful. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Okay. No, but it was. Let's see. [00:12:24] Speaker B: Hold on. The Young and Restless. [00:12:27] Speaker A: Was it on? Well, I don't know. We'll see. Anyway, how are things going with you? [00:12:31] Speaker B: Things are fine. What's going on? [00:12:34] Speaker A: What is going on? [00:12:35] Speaker B: First of all, moving is not for anyone. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:39] Speaker B: I'm over it. Honestly, this entire experience is teaching me that I actually would like to live a minimalist lifestyle. Oh, how many boxes. First of all, my boxes have. I can't believe now that my boxes have almost been moved in for a month. I can't believe that I've been like my. My furniture and stuff has been almost a month now. Mind you, I lost two weeks because of Thanksgiving. Right, right, right, right. But I have been living how long without the things in these boxes? I'm like, do I need the things in these boxes? I've been living so long without them. [00:13:09] Speaker A: The answer is probably no. [00:13:10] Speaker B: I'm thinking. I'm seriously thinking about giving everything away. [00:13:13] Speaker A: Just. Yeah, seriously, you should, like, don't even open them and be like, that's it. [00:13:18] Speaker B: And just donate. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Yep. Because then when you're, like, looking for things, you'll be like, well, I guess I don't have it. I mean. [00:13:24] Speaker B: I mean, I already have three boxes sitting by my door of stuff that I'm like, I'm not using this. I don't wear these shoes. I don't wear these clothes. I don't use these towels. I don't do any of this. Like, I just. I want it gone. [00:13:34] Speaker A: We just have far too much stuff. Like, it's crazy. [00:13:37] Speaker B: It's insane, and I don't need it, and I don't want it. You know what I mean? [00:13:40] Speaker A: No, honestly, I mean, there are a couple things I need. I need a pair of scissors. [00:13:46] Speaker B: Need a pair of scissors. [00:13:46] Speaker A: Always need a pair of scissors. [00:13:47] Speaker B: I need a coffee machine. [00:13:49] Speaker A: You need a coffee machine. A blender, but that's about it. And a tv. [00:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah. And, you know, I need my. My Amazon echo. [00:13:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, you do the echo. I don't do the. Yeah. I don't know. That freaks me out. [00:14:03] Speaker B: Does it? [00:14:03] Speaker A: A little bit. [00:14:04] Speaker B: I turn the. I turn it off so it can't hear me. [00:14:07] Speaker A: Okay, that's good. [00:14:07] Speaker B: I have that option. [00:14:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:09] Speaker B: Because, you know, I know big brother's always watching. [00:14:12] Speaker A: Always, always. [00:14:16] Speaker B: But, yeah, other than that, it's been good. Chicago's been super busy. And snowy. [00:14:22] Speaker A: A little snowy. [00:14:23] Speaker B: I think that I made the wrong choice in putting down roots here. [00:14:28] Speaker A: It's only. It's so rare, though. [00:14:30] Speaker B: I looked around there today and I said, what. What am I doing here? What am I doing here? Why did I do this? [00:14:36] Speaker A: Don't make me mad. [00:14:38] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Okay. Not a lot going besides the snow. I did have a book boyfriend moment this week. I told you about this. [00:14:44] Speaker A: Oh, what? Oh, yeah, you did. [00:14:47] Speaker B: And I need to call it out. [00:14:49] Speaker A: Yep. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Because it's the most serious romantic relationship I think I've ever had. [00:14:52] Speaker A: There you go. One the. The only one you actually wanted, and. [00:14:58] Speaker B: It can't you find love in the crazy spaces. You know what I mean? So, again, it's people listening to this podcast and are still listening, you know, know and care about. I recently purchased my first home. Very contentious situation. I'm getting over the trauma of it slowly but surely a little bit. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:19] Speaker B: And I recently got a text from my realtor, my sweet baby angel, who was like, hey, Let me know when, if anyone, you're around, I'd love to drop off a couple things, like a little quick gift. And I was like, well, I'm out of town. This was over like Thanksgiving. But I'll let you know once I'm back and we can meet up. And he's like, sure, thanks. Sounds great. We were supposed to meet this past weekend. Didn't work. I was busy. Whatever. Right, right. So I texted him early this week, and I was like, hey, I'm around this week. Let me know. Whatever works for you. He text. He's like, okay, you know, I'm around what time? What time works for you? This is Tuesday. I'm like, well, I'm around all day. And then probably around like after five, before six, because I have to go to a show. He's like, all right, well, I'll stop by about 5:30 if that works for you. We love a man who makes a plan. [00:16:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Who's there on time? [00:16:07] Speaker B: Was there on time. Now, mind you, let me set the scene. Tuesday night, Chicago. I already told you that. It's snowing. [00:16:12] Speaker A: Snowing. [00:16:13] Speaker B: It's lightly raining. We're getting a light drizzle that comes through. It's cold. Mm. 5:30 on the dot. I get a text message. Hey, I'm downstairs. Not sure if you want to come down or, you know, if you want to buzz me in, so like to meet you in the. In the lobby. I said, wow, come down. I come down there, and my young, handsome, sweet realtor is holding a bottle of champagne and an expensive candle from Le Labo. No. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:16:43] Speaker B: And he goes, we just stood there for probably 15 minutes in the rain, having a conversation, curious about how I was doing. Wow, what's going on? Being like, I'll give you recommendations for plumbers I work with. No H vac people, whatever you want to know. How's it going? Yeah, that was crazy. I'm really glad we're through it now. You know, he's taking pilot lessons, so he's telling me a little bit about that. Meanwhile, the whole time it's raining on him. Doesn't complain, doesn't go, I gotta get out of here, or, oh, it's raining. So let me just give this to you and go. We stand out there and chat, and every so often, Jillian, he would take his glasses off and clean them off and put them back on, and just like he does. Sweet baby. Somebody needs to snatch him up. [00:17:26] Speaker A: 25, 25, 25. [00:17:29] Speaker B: Where were you 25 years ago? [00:17:31] Speaker A: Jesus. I was just Thinking about this, I. [00:17:35] Speaker B: Was probably somewhere listening to Britney Spears. Yeah. Like, scrolling through a Delia's catalog. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Delia's. Oh, my God. [00:17:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Or what was the Charlotte russe? We're not 57, so. Wait, okay. What. How old were we? [00:17:53] Speaker B: We were high school. No, 13. I was 13. [00:17:58] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Okay, Okay. I don't know why I thought you. [00:18:03] Speaker B: Put us in the future. What's going on? You thought we were at the club. [00:18:10] Speaker A: Jesus. God, that was another 10 years away. Yeah, no, I was probably. Okay, so 13, 14. Oh, my God. I don't even know. I don't want to go back there, you know? [00:18:22] Speaker B: You know, oddly, I really enjoy that era in my life. [00:18:26] Speaker A: I do, too. [00:18:26] Speaker B: I do, too. You know, I have a. I have a playlist of music that I listen to that's all, like, late 90s, early 2000s pop, R B, like, hits, all the greats. And it puts me in an instantly good mood when I listen to it. I'm like, it's probably ridiculous. People are, like, walking by and they hear me, like, bumping, like, in syncs. I'll never stop. [00:18:46] Speaker A: Right. But your body remembers the body. You know what I mean? The body keeps the score good and bad. [00:18:54] Speaker B: And we're losing. [00:18:55] Speaker A: We are losing. [00:18:56] Speaker B: We're down. We're down in the ninth. [00:19:00] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:19:01] Speaker B: But, yeah, that was my book boyfriend moment. I was really happy about that. [00:19:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:04] Speaker B: Really sweet kind of thing a man appear a male peer has probably ever done for me. [00:19:11] Speaker A: I mean, it's insane. Insane. And that he stood out in the rain for 15 minutes. Like, I can't even. [00:19:16] Speaker B: Romance. [00:19:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:17] Speaker B: We're going steady. I know. [00:19:20] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah. [00:19:22] Speaker B: Gonna take me off the market. [00:19:23] Speaker A: You got a little pun there. [00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't even think about that, but, yeah, sure. [00:19:30] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Anything else? [00:19:34] Speaker B: No, I think that's it for me. Anything for you. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Yeah. No, not really. [00:19:38] Speaker B: Okay. [00:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah. What do you think? [00:19:42] Speaker B: What are we doing this week? [00:19:43] Speaker A: Are we gonna do a little. Here. [00:19:44] Speaker B: You hear you. What's going on this week? I mean, you know, the robots are taking over. Yep. Fascism is growing. [00:19:53] Speaker A: We're losing our baby. Jerome. I don't know what we're gonna do. [00:19:56] Speaker B: Jerome Powell, first of all, that name on that man. What's going on? Did his parents not get the memo? [00:20:06] Speaker A: Also, it's like, a very strong name. And it's such a strong name, you. [00:20:10] Speaker B: Know, when the strong black name. [00:20:12] Speaker A: It's a very strong black. I mean, he has been, like, holding it down, though. [00:20:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:19] Speaker A: You know, but. Yeah. No, it definitely does not fit him. [00:20:22] Speaker B: We're just in dire straits. The jobs report is false. Like, it's. We're not doing well. [00:20:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:29] Speaker B: And these numbers are bloated. He's trying to blow the whistle on it. It's crazy. Where I'm. I'm terrified. [00:20:35] Speaker A: He just signed some. Did I tell. Yeah. I sent this to you. Some executive order that was saying, like, taking away states rights for regulating AI. [00:20:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:44] Speaker A: I was like, oh, great. Okay. [00:20:45] Speaker B: Yep. What could go wrong? What could go wrong? Lots of legal cases going into default. I could tell you that. [00:20:52] Speaker A: Yeah. They're not coming out of the court. Yeah. [00:20:55] Speaker B: They ain't coming out no gallows. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:20:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I. It feels real bad right now. [00:21:03] Speaker A: Really bad. Yeah. [00:21:05] Speaker B: What else was going on? Oh, yeah. No, we're just never. We're not getting any safer. [00:21:11] Speaker A: No. Although I did read something today that was like, he's entered his lame duck era. And I was like, that seems a little bit early to say that, but I guess I just. [00:21:22] Speaker B: Let's just fast forward. I don't want to lose years of my life, but it's crazy to think that this has taken up the end of my 20s, in the entirety of my 20s, my 30s. [00:21:31] Speaker A: I know. [00:21:31] Speaker B: I mean, with the exception of the four years of the Biden administration. But even then, he has a dark cloud hovering over it the entire time. [00:21:38] Speaker A: Dark cloud. It was the pandemic. It's not like there were great happy times. [00:21:42] Speaker B: No. [00:21:43] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean? [00:21:44] Speaker B: No. It's just like a brief band aid for, like, a hot second. But then he was always there. [00:21:49] Speaker A: He was. He was. He was down in Mar A Lago, planning and plotting. Yep. God, every time I see Stephen Miller's face, I just want to punch. [00:21:57] Speaker B: He's dead inside. [00:21:59] Speaker A: He's a demon. [00:22:00] Speaker B: I mean, truly. They're among us. [00:22:02] Speaker A: What did I see? Him? I don't know. So I. I like, you know, I want to black it out. Yeah. It's awful. [00:22:09] Speaker B: Every day. Every day. Well, I saw a little ticker come across the bottom. I think Miami elected their first democratic mayor in 30 years. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I saw that. Yeah. Ticker come across the bottom. [00:22:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Because of your. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Yeah, the. [00:22:22] Speaker A: Your news watching happen. [00:22:23] Speaker B: No, in the morning. I gotta get my. I gotta get news going. My ABC News, my Good Morning America, my Robin Roberts. And then when ABC National News goes on, like, you know, a little break, then my girls, Val Warner and Tanya Babbage from ABC7 News here in Chicago, they were looking great today. I looked at this Guy said, look at my girls. [00:22:43] Speaker A: Oh, love it, love it. [00:22:45] Speaker B: Yeah, they're holding it down. The morning. We have a great local abc. There you go. Morning news team. But like, all day news. Diverse. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Everybody Diverse. Yeah, yeah. They're great. They're personable, they're funny, they're happy. [00:22:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:23:00] Speaker B: Terrell Brown also. Love him. He's. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Yes, I love him. [00:23:05] Speaker B: He's always adding some. Some extra flair. What I love about him is that if there's some nonsense going on in the headlines, he is sure to let you know he doesn't agree with it. Case in point, several months ago, measles. There was a news report about measles coming back around. Right. And how the numbers were going up. They do the story. It cuts back. Terrell in the. In the studio, he looks at the camera and goes, so unfortunate, yet so preventable. And then it cuts to the next story, and I'm like, thank you, Terrell. [00:23:33] Speaker A: Oh, my God. He got that in there. I love it. [00:23:36] Speaker B: He's like, this is some bullshit that we all have to live with. [00:23:39] Speaker A: Yeah, good. Good for him. [00:23:40] Speaker B: So there's heroes among us. [00:23:42] Speaker A: There is, yeah. [00:23:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:44] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:23:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:47] Speaker A: I'm trying to think of what else. Well, Netflix is gonna buy Warner Brothers. [00:23:54] Speaker B: Yeah. People are, like, terrified. Terrified as they should be. Really. [00:23:58] Speaker A: They really should be. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what would happen. Then there was, like, Disney bought. [00:24:04] Speaker B: Oh, a big steak and. [00:24:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:05] Speaker B: OpenAI. [00:24:06] Speaker A: OpenAI. Like, basically bought the rights to Disney characters. And so it's just like, it's bad now. [00:24:14] Speaker B: I mean, it's really just starting to point to, like, if you don't want to be part of this, then you just have to, like, go analog. Yeah. [00:24:21] Speaker A: I mean, and honestly, I was think about this. I was like, I'm going to be so, like, skeptical and suspicious of, like, new people, new actors and actresses. I'm going to be like, I'm not going to watch it unless it's somebody I know is a real person. [00:24:34] Speaker B: Is a real person. Yeah. We're going to have to go back to, like, plays. Hollywood actors are just going to have to get up here and get on the stage somewhere. So I know that they're still kicking. [00:24:43] Speaker A: I know. But Ticketmaster, like, then how are you going to go to a play? [00:24:47] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Yeah. Because they're like, who was it recently? There was some CEO or executive that was like, people aren't paying enough for tickets. [00:24:54] Speaker A: Oh, what? [00:24:55] Speaker B: I'm like, in this economy? [00:24:57] Speaker A: That's crazy. That's Crazy. [00:24:59] Speaker B: I. What are we gonna do? At this point? I'm really happy that my parents still have numerous vhs. [00:25:06] Speaker A: Yes. Oh, my God. Yes. I know somebody the other day was. [00:25:11] Speaker B: Like, talking about, like, what it was like, what. What it used to be like, and they were like, you owned physical copies of things that you bought. [00:25:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Isn't that crazy? [00:25:21] Speaker B: And it's like. Yeah, because now you can buy movies and you can buy, like, seasons of shows. [00:25:27] Speaker A: Right. You don't have a physical copy. No, no. [00:25:31] Speaker B: So, like, if you delete that app. Yeah, Right, right, right. Do away with the digital platform that it's on. It's gone. And that's crazy to me. [00:25:40] Speaker A: Yeah, that's kind of scary. [00:25:42] Speaker B: We gotta get back to, like, physical. [00:25:45] Speaker A: I know. [00:25:45] Speaker B: Presence. [00:25:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:46] Speaker B: Like, I want to start, like, really just prioritizing that. Yeah. [00:25:52] Speaker A: You know what we should do? I mean, we should create, you know, a Netflix, basically. Like, I know like a, you know, early days of Netflix just sending DVDs. [00:26:03] Speaker B: Well, let's. What we should do. Yes, I agree with that. Let's do, like, the free little libraries instead. It's like a free little blockbuster. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, I love that. You know, that they would be really bad movies, horrible movies. But, you know, why not? Like, there's. The other thing is, like, there's too much choice. Like, it's just so overwhelming to, like, try to figure out what to watch. [00:26:25] Speaker B: Yeah. I'll tell you, and I promise we will talk about the book. A piece of art that I recently enjoyed was on Netflix, and it was called Lady Chatterley's Lover. Have you watched this? [00:26:40] Speaker A: No. [00:26:41] Speaker B: Okay, well, I would implore you to watch it. I can't say that you're going to get much in the way of storytelling. Think the actors are good? I think the main actors are good. It's an actor named Jack o', Connell, and it's the actress who is played Lady Diana in the Crown. Oh, okay. [00:27:01] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. [00:27:02] Speaker B: And it's from a couple years ago. And let me tell you something, it's set in, like, 1919, and they are absolutely getting it in. [00:27:10] Speaker A: Oh, my God, I'm talking. [00:27:12] Speaker B: Yeah, you have to watch it. And very hot. Very sexy. Have a crush on Jack o'. Connell. Okay. He played the vampire in the recent Sinners film by Ryan Coogler with my Michael B. Gordon. [00:27:23] Speaker A: I've seen it yet. [00:27:23] Speaker B: Okay. Have a crush on him. Good actor. I love when a man can be. It's, you know, a man's good in his job when he's versatile. [00:27:30] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. You know, for sure. [00:27:31] Speaker B: And this is. He's one of those. Love it the way he is in this film. He knows what he's doing. And you love to see a man who knows what he's doing. [00:27:39] Speaker A: See it? Yeah. Yeah. [00:27:41] Speaker B: So, yeah. [00:27:41] Speaker A: Very rare. It's a. He's. [00:27:43] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a rare bird. And guess what? [00:27:47] Speaker A: What? [00:27:47] Speaker B: From the uk, But I think his dad was Irish, an Irish immigrant. So he's got like this really interesting kind of accent. It's one that, you know, of course I'd be like, I don't know. But on him I'm like, it's of the people. [00:28:04] Speaker A: Like that. [00:28:04] Speaker B: It's not posh at all. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Oh, I love that. [00:28:06] Speaker B: It's very. Just authentic and, you know, cute. [00:28:10] Speaker A: Yeah, Love it. [00:28:11] Speaker B: So check it out. [00:28:14] Speaker A: I'm gonna have to watch that. [00:28:15] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm also watching the Diddy documentary series. Okay. [00:28:18] Speaker A: I, Yeah, I want to pull that up for sure. [00:28:20] Speaker B: It's very. I, I personally, I really, I think it's really well done. Okay. If you have not, like, if you just kind of high level been watching all the things in the news cycle that's been going on and you're like, you know, aware of like the trial and the outcome and like also everything that's gone on with, With Cassie and whatever, I think that it's really good in just diving deep. It doesn't. Like, that is not even necessarily what they're talking about or I'm sorry, in this docu series. I mean, of course it comes up, but it goes deep into how this person came to be who he is, and how his behavior has gone on for as long as it has and how it has continued to impact and harm several people. And I'm talking about it's from childhood through to like, really early career all the way to like pointing like planting suspicion around his possible involvement with the deaths of Biggie and Tupac. [00:29:19] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:29:19] Speaker B: Which if you watch that episode, you walk away from it going, I'm sorry, but you can't convince me otherwise. That he was not some. He didn't somehow know what's going on with Biggie, both of them. Because here's the thing, what's interesting is that Tupac's cousin is in, in the documentary. [00:29:37] Speaker A: Oh. [00:29:38] Speaker B: And he goes, they were friends, they were supporting each other until Diddy got weird about their closeness. He would get jealous very quickly about anything and anyone. That's like a. Oh, for Tupac. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:29:51] Speaker B: And so he didn't like the two of them getting close and people also in the documentary are talking about how maybe Biggie wasn't super happy at Bad Boy and was like exploring other options. But the two of them really. So the Tupac and Biggie supported each other, but then there was division sewn and weirdness and, and paranoia sown by Big or by Diddy that the two of them became estranged. But it wasn't really beef that they had with each other up until Diddy kind of got involved and like tore the two of them apart. Really? Yeah, but like they, they have a. I don't know, it just goes into to Diddy's connections to like the gangs of la, how he like got them to like be involved in coming out to Vegas the night that Biggie was died. He wasn't even supposed to be there. He was supposed to be in London doing a press tour with the UK press and the co founder of Bad Boy is on there saying he was supposed to be on a plane that night. And Diddy called me and goes, he's not going. [00:30:50] Speaker A: No. [00:30:51] Speaker B: Yes. And instead Diddy bought him to a party that night in which there was a bunch of gang members, shit got, got weird. And then later on that night, Biggie got shot. [00:31:00] Speaker A: This is LA or New York, LA, LA. [00:31:03] Speaker B: Okay. [00:31:04] Speaker A: Oh my God. [00:31:05] Speaker B: Vegas, LA, wherever he died. But it was not New York. [00:31:08] Speaker A: Not New York. Okay. Yeah. [00:31:09] Speaker B: You just have to watch it. [00:31:10] Speaker A: I have to watch it. I really, I mean I was, I was looking at it and like there was a. I don't know, there's a preview and I was like, yeah, this looks good. [00:31:17] Speaker B: No, you have to. And the craziest and just most vile aspect of it too is that he, they. He like said that they needed to do this, this big funeral and memorial service for Biggie. And it was like a well known thing. I mean like cars dry, like a cavalcade, cars driving through Brooklyn, like all this. Yeah. And he was like, we got to do this. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this for Biggie, blah, blah, blah. He turned around and build Biggie's family for the. [00:31:42] Speaker A: No, he did it. [00:31:43] Speaker B: Yes. Oh my God, what a horrible person. [00:31:47] Speaker A: He's a horrible human being. [00:31:48] Speaker B: Who does that. [00:31:49] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. What I mean, I'm are. Is like her, his mother interviewed. Like where does this come from? [00:31:56] Speaker B: Well, cops that have like been, you know, investigating like the Biggie and Tupac situation. You know, when they go, when they've, over the years as they've gone to his mother to kind of talk to her, you know, get her insights on stuff, they basically just said that she has made no qualms about her distaste for him. [00:32:12] Speaker A: Really? [00:32:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:32:15] Speaker B: And then it talks about after Biggie died because, you know, that he was propping him up as an artist, but everybody in the. In the podcast or in the documentary is like. Like he. Diddy wanted to be the star. He wanted to be the star, but he didn't have the talent he had. Not musically inclined. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:29] Speaker B: No. So when Biggie died, he basically used that as a platform to jump his career off. Because remember, he did that I'll be missing you song. [00:32:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:32:38] Speaker B: And that was what catapulted him. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Totally catapulted him. [00:32:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Because he was like, this is my song and dedication to my best friend. And then all of a sudden, it was like, him, I'm gonna go off and do my career now. And what's interesting about this documentary is that. Or docu series is that it's full. It's being executive produced and supported by a 50 Cent. [00:32:58] Speaker A: Wow. [00:32:58] Speaker B: 50 Cent has had it out for him for years. [00:33:00] Speaker A: Oh, 50 headset hates him. [00:33:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:03] Speaker A: Which with good reason. [00:33:05] Speaker B: Yeah. But I think. I think it's really well done. [00:33:07] Speaker A: I'll have to see it. Yeah. [00:33:08] Speaker B: I need to watch the fourth episode. But I was talking to my girlfriend Tony about it, and I was like, girl, what is going on? She's like, girl, it's crazy. [00:33:16] Speaker A: All right, I'm gonna start. I'm do that this week. [00:33:18] Speaker B: Yeah, you'll get a lot. I can't. You're not even gonna believe it. [00:33:21] Speaker A: My God, I don't know how, like, how people like this are supported. Like, how does this happen? [00:33:29] Speaker B: I. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I think of all the years, all the songs, all the things, and that's what sucks, is that as horrible as he's been, I've enjoyed his music for decades. And even if it's not his music, because it's not even his songs that I like, it's music that he has produced and artists that he's been on their songs because he can't help but to be on their songs. Like, right. Literally, I was listening to a Biggie song the other day, and it's his song, but the entire time in the background, Diddy has to insert himself. Like, he's saying little ad libs, like, laughing, doing things. He has to be front row center. And I said that a couple years ago before all this happened, there was like a dedication to Mary J. Blige on one of these award shows. And literally, it's like, you know, it was like a Vanguard Icon award. So it's like, right dead, like dedicated time space to Mary J. Blige for her, for her award. And they do like this intro video. And the first like 30 seconds to a minute is all about Diddy. [00:34:37] Speaker A: Oh, him. Oh, my God. [00:34:39] Speaker B: Like, him making it about himself being like the first lady of hip hop. The first lady of bad boy. Let's go. You know, whatever. Like him. And it's like, it's not about you. Get off the stage. [00:34:50] Speaker A: He always creeped me out. Like, I was always creeped out. [00:34:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he looks weird. [00:34:54] Speaker A: Yeah, he looks kind of scary. [00:34:56] Speaker B: I don't get how women were into it, but, you know, I don't get how a lot of women are making these choices out here. But that's, I mean, that's a different topic. [00:35:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a much longer topic. [00:35:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think we have run the gamut. I mean, where have we been today? We've been Dr. Quinn, medicine woman. Yeah. We've done Touched by an angel vampire. [00:35:17] Speaker A: Poor Charles, by the way, it's called Poor Charles. [00:35:19] Speaker B: Okay. I, I, I'm aware of Port Charles. I don't know that I ever watched Port Charles. [00:35:23] Speaker A: It was a good one. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:35:24] Speaker A: It was a spin off of General Hospital. [00:35:26] Speaker B: Oh, was it? Okay, so vampires are in fact. Yeah, yeah. In the General Hospital universe. [00:35:31] Speaker A: You just didn't know it. [00:35:32] Speaker B: No, I didn't. What else, where else so important? [00:35:36] Speaker A: So we went to. Yeah. And then we were also at the Cook and Courthouse. [00:35:40] Speaker B: And we're going to stay at the Cook County Courthouse. [00:35:43] Speaker A: That's the vampire that I was obsessed with in Port Charles. [00:35:46] Speaker B: I think that he's still on General. I think he's on general. [00:35:51] Speaker A: I'm sure he is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. This was 1997. Yeah. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Okay. [00:35:57] Speaker A: It premiered in 1997 and I remember when it was taken off the air. [00:36:03] Speaker B: Were you sad? [00:36:04] Speaker A: I was sad. Yeah. How did I watch this? [00:36:08] Speaker B: I don't know what 10 year old Jillian was doing. [00:36:11] Speaker A: Michael Easton. That was his name, I think. [00:36:13] Speaker B: Is he still on there? [00:36:14] Speaker A: I don't know. Okay, well, I guess we should talk about the book, right? [00:36:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, that's what people came here for. [00:36:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. Oh, yeah, he is. Oh, my God. [00:36:25] Speaker B: Okay, what are we reading this week? [00:36:27] Speaker A: We are reading Callie Hart's book, Brimstone. Yes. That it just came out in November. [00:36:39] Speaker B: Yeah. It came out like right before Thanksgiving. And we are thankful. [00:36:42] Speaker A: We are very thankful. Follow up to Quicksilver. [00:36:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:36:46] Speaker A: And yeah, I mean, I liked it. I Had a good time. [00:36:49] Speaker B: I had a great time. Yeah. You know, on the heels of God Bless her Sarah J. Maas book, you know, we're working our way through the. Throwing the glass. [00:37:00] Speaker A: Throwing the glass, yeah. [00:37:01] Speaker B: What I appreciate about this book is it requires very little brain power. [00:37:04] Speaker A: None. [00:37:05] Speaker B: You just strap yourself in and you have a good time. You just go for a ride. It's vibes only. You're looking past plot holes. Yeah. [00:37:13] Speaker A: There. Of which there are many. [00:37:15] Speaker B: Yeah. You're looking past the. Very. [00:37:20] Speaker A: Gross. [00:37:22] Speaker B: Thank you for that. Yes. [00:37:24] Speaker A: Sex scenes. Yeah. Y. [00:37:26] Speaker B: Very detailed sex scenes. I think coral pink was a. An adjective to describe a certain part or something that's going on. You're just looking past a lot of things. But, you know, at the end of the day, once. Once you get off the ride, you go, let's do that again. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. No, you're like, this is. Yeah, I'll turn right back around. I love it. [00:37:46] Speaker B: You give me plenty to think about. Yeah. [00:37:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I. Yeah, I definitely liked it. I think it was, like, an easier read, but it wasn't, like, dumb, you know, it wasn't like you were like, oh, God, I'm trying to get through this bad writing. No, it wasn't that. [00:37:59] Speaker B: No, I. Yeah, I had a really great time, and I thought the story was fun. There were definitely things that I didn't quite understand in this instance. I didn't understand some of the magic, like the runes too much. The rune binding, the closing of the runes, the. Just the sealing of the runes, I guess you could say. [00:38:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:19] Speaker B: I don't know. In my mind, I was just picturing, like, her putting her hands up and it looking like the last Airbender or something. And I don't even know what that is, to be completely honest, but I just. I wasn't. I couldn't visualize it in my mind's eye. [00:38:31] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. [00:38:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:33] Speaker A: I had no idea what that was. And she had, like, basically, like, three areas of magic or something, or she had, like, three big runes that. And I. I just. I couldn't follow it. [00:38:44] Speaker B: She's basically Captain Planet, like Earth. Right. Water conjuring the elements. I think we sing that pretty much every episode. [00:38:56] Speaker A: I think we do, too. [00:38:57] Speaker B: I love it. All these characters are everything you could want from basically. Yeah. But, yeah, she was always burning her hands. They were blistering. [00:39:06] Speaker A: Yeah, she was. I mean, that was, like, pretty intense. And, like, when she would talk, that was, like, very gory. [00:39:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it was a lot for me. However, we do see our beloved kingfisher back around this time. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Kingfisher. [00:39:20] Speaker B: But yeah, he is not the biggest. He's not the most important aspect of this book to me. [00:39:24] Speaker A: No, definitely not. And you know, we had talked about whenever we did Quicksilver, that was whatever. [00:39:31] Speaker B: Let me look at what episode that was. That was one of our original. [00:39:33] Speaker A: That was. Yeah. Many moons ago. You really liked King Fisher and. I did not. [00:39:42] Speaker B: You did not. And honestly, I mean I. I did like him in that book. And you know what it was, was because there was a buildup to them like actually getting together. [00:39:52] Speaker A: Right. The slow burn. [00:39:53] Speaker B: There was. There was a slow burn there. There's no slow burn here. [00:39:55] Speaker A: None. [00:39:56] Speaker B: So I'm bored with him. I'm like, I'm over this now. Let's go, let's move on. [00:39:59] Speaker A: I mean, it's like whenever they get together, it's like you have to either do like a will they. Won't they like break them up and put them. But otherwise it's just boring. [00:40:08] Speaker B: It's very boring. Also between the two of these. I have to say I don't like the possessiveness showcased between these two characters. [00:40:18] Speaker A: No, no, no. [00:40:18] Speaker B: Constantly referring to each other as my mate. They don't call each other by like their first name. They're like, I will save my mate. And there's multiple moments within the sex scenes and just moments where they're like we're listening to their inner dialogue because it's written from multiple points of view. That the way that when they look at each other, they look at each other with reverence. And then it off with some statement about like ownership of the other. [00:40:42] Speaker A: Right. I want him to be inside me forever. [00:40:44] Speaker B: No, thanks. You know, I gotta get to dinner by seven. [00:40:49] Speaker A: No, thank you. My God. [00:40:51] Speaker B: You got 20 minutes max. And then we got to go. Max. Max. And frankly, I never want to see you again. Thank you. Bye. Bye. [00:41:01] Speaker A: This is. [00:41:02] Speaker B: This has been not fun. I can guarantee it. [00:41:05] Speaker A: No, I mean like, yeah, they were very, very possessive of each other. It wasn't like it was just coming from him. [00:41:12] Speaker B: No. [00:41:13] Speaker A: You know, it was just like. It was. I don't like it at all. [00:41:17] Speaker B: Let's talk a little bit about sex in a dreamscape. Is that one of your fantasies? [00:41:21] Speaker A: Not mine. No. I mean, it wasn't. [00:41:24] Speaker B: Talk about a wet dream. [00:41:26] Speaker A: It could have been hot, but it wasn't. [00:41:29] Speaker B: They were meeting in like a snow capped cottage. [00:41:31] Speaker A: I mean. And I also like couldn't get over the fact that I was like, how are you guys dream? Like, why are we not talking about this? [00:41:40] Speaker B: Good Point. And also I kept forgetting the fact that she in her regular life could not be in the sunshine because she's half vampire at the start of this. At the start of this. So it would confuse me. I'd be like, what's going on? [00:41:51] Speaker A: Why is she in the sun? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it was like. Because it was half fae, half vampire, I guess she could like get away with it. But I gotta be honest, like, not a lot of. I wanted them to explore more of the vampires. [00:42:06] Speaker B: I know. Honestly. Yeah. I wanted. Wanted more too. I. And I wanted to explore a little bit more of this hybrid identity that she has. Yeah. You know what I mean? It seemed like she was just like, yeah, I'm a vampire. But like I'm. I. I don't care about that. Thanks. I'm like, I realize that I've been made into half. [00:42:23] Speaker A: Right, Right. [00:42:24] Speaker B: But like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna realize that part of myself. Yeah. [00:42:29] Speaker A: I mean, and so I was confused because I'm always confused at like, I know that vampires, whatever, they feed, they bite in the feet. But like, why are the Fae doing it as well? [00:42:39] Speaker B: Okay, I have that same question. [00:42:40] Speaker A: Like, why are they biting a lot? You know, like Kingfisher. Like they were biting each other and like sucking their blood. Each other's blood. Right. [00:42:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Well, that's what I thought was so interesting was that it seemed like two levels of bite in the sex scene. It was a. It was, Was putting their teeth. [00:43:03] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. [00:43:04] Speaker B: And that was to give you like a drug dose. [00:43:07] Speaker A: Yep. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Right. To basically give you a full body orgasm, which I told you over brunch this weekend reminded me of, like. Yeah, that was there. Which is like just a full like beam of light coming out of your. Your torso. [00:43:21] Speaker A: Oh my God. [00:43:22] Speaker B: And put a pin in that because I'll tell you what else. Was doing a lot of work in this book. But then they would go a little bit deeper and then I think it was like actually drawing blood because then. [00:43:31] Speaker A: They would like drink. Like at 1, I think she was like, drink. You know. [00:43:36] Speaker B: Did she drink from him too? [00:43:37] Speaker A: I think so. I mean, both of them. I don't. I don't know exactly who I mean, but that would make sense because she's a vampire and that would be like feeding. I don't know. It's so up the all. You know, I can't stand the biting. [00:43:50] Speaker B: You know, we're friends, but. And, and you know, I don't pretend to know any of your sexual proclivities. [00:43:56] Speaker A: But you do know. [00:43:58] Speaker B: But I do know that this is. [00:44:00] Speaker A: This is not. [00:44:00] Speaker B: This is not one of them. If a man even bared his teeth to you, if you caught the flash of teeth in the dark. [00:44:07] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Seriously? Yeah, yeah. [00:44:13] Speaker B: Just dried on dry as. Whatever moisture you were able to conjure is gone. [00:44:20] Speaker A: It's absolutely gone. Don't you dare. [00:44:25] Speaker B: Don't you dare. But. But speaking of. Speaking of this, you know what was doing a lot of work in this? [00:44:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:44:30] Speaker B: The solar plexus. [00:44:32] Speaker A: This. I. You know, it. It was. She. She mentioned that, like, four times. [00:44:36] Speaker B: Chakras. [00:44:37] Speaker A: I know, but, like, in a weird. In a way that it was like she meant to say, like, what is solar? Like her chest. Right. [00:44:45] Speaker B: Chest, right here. [00:44:46] Speaker A: The rip. Yeah. Under the. [00:44:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:44:48] Speaker A: Like, she could have just said under, like, between the ribs. Right. [00:44:53] Speaker B: But she used this, like, I don't know, solar plexus. It just. I'm like. Like, you didn't need to say more than one. [00:44:58] Speaker A: It's just. I know, I know. It did seem, like a little bit out of place. [00:45:02] Speaker B: Yeah. It was like, oh, who's starting to explore New age philosophies, for sure. And meditation. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I. Yeah, the possession with those two wasn't necessarily great. [00:45:18] Speaker A: No. I didn't like it at all. [00:45:20] Speaker B: But I do you. With both of them. I do really like the fact that we got multiple stories and progression of plot in this book. [00:45:31] Speaker A: Yes. [00:45:31] Speaker B: With both of them together and separately, it wasn't like they were so up under each other's ass. Yeah, they weren't. They didn't get things done that they needed to get done. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Yeah, no, you're right. Like, I. I definitely didn't think about that. I mean, there were like. There was a whole part of the book where they were separate. I mean, then they got, like, got together in the dream. That was annoying. But, like. Yeah, it wasn't that. They were like, I need you right now. Oh, my go. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:54] Speaker A: You know, it was just like, they're doing their things. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Well, let's also talk about the fact there's a big reveal in this book in terms of King Fisher's new name and also his lineage. Yeah. [00:46:06] Speaker A: He's a demon prince, right? That was. Yeah. And the name. [00:46:11] Speaker B: You know it because, you know, I'm gonna sit here and call him Kyle. [00:46:13] Speaker A: Kyle. I mean, basically, it is Kyle Kaiden. Yeah. [00:46:17] Speaker B: Not any better. [00:46:18] Speaker A: God, it is like. It's like the 2000. It's like the trad one naming of Kyle in 2025. Yeah. [00:46:27] Speaker B: Yeah, like Kaden. [00:46:28] Speaker A: Like Kayden. Let's do Kayden. [00:46:30] Speaker B: Oh, God, I hate it. Yeah. Didn't you say you showed me something where, like, people on Reddit were saying. Yeah. Like, it felt like such a betrayal to read that name. [00:46:38] Speaker A: Yes. [00:46:39] Speaker B: Because it felt very much like she's trying to, like, connect in with, like, the Gen Z naming skis, and it's. [00:46:46] Speaker A: Like it's not working out. Yeah. [00:46:47] Speaker B: Oh, God. Yeah. I just stick with Kingfisher. [00:46:51] Speaker A: Honestly, just stick with Kingfisher. I mean, Saris carrion, like Tolatus. Like, those are good names, but the. But Kaiden. No, thanks. [00:47:01] Speaker B: Workshop it again, sister. Workshop it again. What's. What. How did this. How did this happen? [00:47:06] Speaker A: Oh, God. And I, you know, I hate the name Kyle because of that boy in fifth grade that. Yeah. [00:47:11] Speaker B: You've not had a good run with Kyle. [00:47:13] Speaker A: I have not. I have not. Yeah. [00:47:15] Speaker B: It's like me with Libras. Stay away. [00:47:18] Speaker A: Not happening. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Not happening. Yeah. And he's a demon prince, so more to be explored there. [00:47:23] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that was kind of like a cool reveal, though. It was. It was a little bit like, oh, let's. We're going from the vampires now to the demons. You know, it was like, let's just kind of stick with something. [00:47:35] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. Okay. Also, what about our angel tag towel? [00:47:42] Speaker A: Love him. [00:47:43] Speaker B: Love to love Tal. I was very curious because I was feeling him more and more as the book went on because, you know, you were obsessed with him at the end. [00:47:51] Speaker A: Oh, I love him. [00:47:52] Speaker B: And I was like, we've only seen him standing on a mountain top. Yes. [00:47:56] Speaker A: You know, I love a man just standing there, though, at the distance. [00:47:59] Speaker B: I'm like, julian, we can't even make out his features. And you're like, no, I want him. [00:48:04] Speaker A: I mean, compared with King Fisher. [00:48:06] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. And so, yeah, he really showed himself to be a really strong character. [00:48:11] Speaker A: He did, he did. And there was part of me that was like, at any. I was like, oh, is he maybe going to be bad? You know, there was like a little bit of that. Like, he was. [00:48:19] Speaker B: Is he going to turn on us? [00:48:20] Speaker A: Yeah. But I, like, I. I knew basically that he was a good guy. [00:48:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And really. Okay, first of all, I thought that the scene in this book, if there's a scene that would just be so glorious in a film, it was the Vampire Ball, in which there was an entire. There was a bloodbath that ensues at that ball. But just. I loved everything about it. [00:48:43] Speaker A: In which I did, too. [00:48:45] Speaker B: Yeah. It was just so vivid. And honestly, I'm like, this would make great. [00:48:49] Speaker A: Yeah, tv. [00:48:50] Speaker B: Make great tv. Great movie footage. Like, it was wonderful, but really sad to sort of see him lose his identity after what, like a thousand years? [00:48:59] Speaker A: Is it a. I know. I mean, the numbers in this book don't like, really compute to me. A thousand years, you know, a thousand years, that's a long time. You know, a hundred years is a long time, but a thousand years. And it's like, you know, his friends are the same. Then after, when he becomes a Fae again. [00:49:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:19] Speaker A: You know, he's like, ah, missed you. [00:49:21] Speaker B: Well, and then also to learn that he fell into this trap by following a woman that doesn't actually love him. Never did really. No. [00:49:29] Speaker A: It's so sad. Sad. That was so sad. [00:49:31] Speaker B: And also for him to come out of it, be like, you know, she dies. And he's like, I feel nothing. Can you imagine living your life as a woman for a thousand years for this man all of a sudden to be like, I feel nothing. [00:49:42] Speaker A: I didn't really like you anyway. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Just a terrible fate. [00:49:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm excited to see, though, what's coming up. I, you know, we've talked about this. I want him to be gay. I want him to be with Carrie. [00:49:58] Speaker B: It seems like now that he's in his fay body, maybe he'll explore that avenue. What I loved was that he loves a good, like, little orgy situation. [00:50:06] Speaker A: He does love a good. Yeah. [00:50:07] Speaker B: I mean, how else are you gonna pass the time? A thousand years? [00:50:09] Speaker A: I mean, I mean, it's true. Also, he. I mean, he's just a super confident. Loved it. [00:50:15] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a very good. I know we talked. Okay, we talked. We're going to talk a little bit about carrying Swift, which I love. And I think the casting that we kind of gave him, that was clear as Jonathan Bailey. But I think Jonathan Bailey could be a good towel too. [00:50:28] Speaker A: I think so, too, Too. I think so too, because he's a. He was a bit of a showman, but also like you, there was something like. He definitely was emotional. You know what I mean? Like, you just. He. So Jonathan Bailey definitely could do it. [00:50:42] Speaker B: Yeah, he could do both. But. Okay, let me tell you who carried this book on their back for me and that's carrying Swift. [00:50:48] Speaker A: I am obsessed with him. [00:50:49] Speaker B: This book would not be what it was for me if it wasn't for the character of Carrie and Swift. [00:50:54] Speaker A: No. And you know what? He never, like, I was waiting for the. For when he was like, okay, now he's getting annoying. No, never happened. He was funny. He was. [00:51:03] Speaker B: Don't mind if I smoke in here. [00:51:05] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah. He had some really funny lines. [00:51:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:09] Speaker A: And you don't usually see that in these books. [00:51:11] Speaker B: No, you don't. And it's. It's hard for me to chuckle or laugh out loud while reading these books. And he did it every single time. [00:51:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:20] Speaker B: And while managing, like you said, not to be annoying or irritating. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, there was definitely depth to him. Like, Especially, like, when he. When they went to. What was the. The rift hold. [00:51:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:33] Speaker A: When he and Kingfisher went back to rift hold. And then at some point. What did he say? [00:51:38] Speaker B: He said, is that rift hold? Is that in the. [00:51:40] Speaker A: Isn't. It isn't. The. The city or the. [00:51:42] Speaker B: I thought rift hold was in. [00:51:47] Speaker A: See? Oh, my God. These are, like, going together. Wait, what was it called? [00:51:51] Speaker B: Called when they go back to Solaris or Solarin. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Zilverin. [00:51:56] Speaker B: Zilverin. [00:51:57] Speaker A: Zilverin, I think. [00:51:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:58] Speaker A: Yeah. So he. Yeah, when they went back there. I know. [00:52:04] Speaker B: Well, okay, maybe they got in the quicksilver and went to another round. [00:52:07] Speaker A: They could have. Yeah, but what did he do? Oh, yeah, he said something like. He's like, if you're gonna make me into the clown, I'm gonna act like the clown. Do you know what I mean? Like, he was just. He's come at the clown. [00:52:19] Speaker B: The clown. [00:52:19] Speaker A: Bite the clown. Yep. But he was basically saying, he's like, if you gu me like this, then I'm gonna act like that. You know what I mean? [00:52:26] Speaker B: Yeah. So there's a lot of depth to carry in. I love Carrion's continued sexual escapade. [00:52:32] Speaker A: Me too. Me too. [00:52:33] Speaker B: Who did we see him with in this book? [00:52:34] Speaker A: Daniel. Daniel. [00:52:36] Speaker B: Justice for Daniel. [00:52:38] Speaker A: I know, I know. With losing her hair. [00:52:41] Speaker B: Hair's burned off. I picture her looking like the Cynthia doll in Rugrats. [00:52:47] Speaker A: Oh, my God. And she was like. Like, she just. Yeah. I don't know. [00:52:52] Speaker B: They had her out there in the mountain pass the whole time, and none. [00:52:55] Speaker A: Of them actually like, like her. I mean, she's not. She's not an interesting character, and she's. [00:53:00] Speaker B: She's tough to get along with, too. [00:53:02] Speaker A: I know. I know. She's tough to read about, honestly. [00:53:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:05] Speaker B: It's rough. We also met a new character, this book. Foley. [00:53:09] Speaker A: Loved Foley. Yeah. A man of the. A man of the books. [00:53:13] Speaker B: A man of the books. An intellectual. Also somebody who's been saying, spending what, the last 500 years or however. How long has he been. How Long has he been living in this dual state? [00:53:22] Speaker A: Oh, God, well, a thousand years, I think. [00:53:25] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, he went in, he went in the clink as soon as. He was in there. [00:53:34] Speaker A: Oh my God, the bloodletting clink. [00:53:36] Speaker B: Yeah, but he's just been like hiding out in the library in the section that he knows these dumbasses don't hang out in because they're not intellectuals. [00:53:43] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, they don't care. [00:53:45] Speaker B: They just want blood and his canines in gold. I'm like, honestly. [00:53:49] Speaker A: Oh, I didn't like that. [00:53:50] Speaker B: I'm a little bit like. This is kind of stylish. Really? Yeah. I'm like, you know, it seems like they're like adorned a little bit. I don't know. I'm like, I don't think this is like. I don't think that has to necessarily be a bad thing. [00:54:03] Speaker A: Okay. It wasn't giving you the guy with a gold tooth from Home Alone? [00:54:06] Speaker B: No, it wasn't giving me that. No. In my mind I was. I think I was dressing it up a little bit more in my mind. [00:54:12] Speaker A: Okay. Oh, yeah, well, we'll have to see the. The TV show. [00:54:15] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. But yeah, I think he's got maybe got a little promise. Hopefully he finds love. [00:54:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, he, he was giving some vibes too. Like he could be a biking maybe would love it. [00:54:28] Speaker B: You're gonna get what you want. You're gonna get some man on man action. [00:54:35] Speaker A: I am, I. Hopefully. My God, it's. I mean, it would be about time. [00:54:40] Speaker B: Yeah, it would be about time. [00:54:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:41] Speaker B: I mean, we need. I mean they're certainly mentioning it with Carrion, but we're not seeing it at all. [00:54:46] Speaker A: I know we're not seeing it at all. I would definitely read a whole book about Carrie Ann. [00:54:51] Speaker B: Well, I think that's the plan. I'd seen somewhere that Callie Hart's planning on like spinning off here and like we're gonna go on a swift journey. [00:55:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:00] Speaker B: So that feels good to me. [00:55:02] Speaker A: Let's also talk about the satyrs. [00:55:04] Speaker B: All right. Now you know how I feel about this because I talked a little bit about it. Here's what's going on on. So the. In the story, we've not talked about this, which is so funny for to me, no, there is a rot that is taking over the entire universe, essentially, and. Or this, this world that in which we exist and the many realms within, it's going to spread. [00:55:31] Speaker A: Stephen Miller. [00:55:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, eventually. And who will save us? I'll tell you who's going to Save us, the Satyrs. And the reason being they're a community of. It's. It's a diverse community. That's what I'll say. [00:55:46] Speaker A: It is. It is. [00:55:47] Speaker B: And so anyway, in the realm of our main characters, the rot has just taken over. They're basically. They have nowhere else to go. They need to move through a shadow gate through to the land of the satyrs. [00:56:02] Speaker A: Basically. [00:56:03] Speaker B: They're not announcing that they're coming. They're just full on colonizing the out of the Satyrs land. [00:56:12] Speaker A: Y. [00:56:12] Speaker B: So our characters step through the shadow gate. Much happens through that they land. And it's a full on war in bloodbath in satyr land. So they brought problems to these people's doorstep. They didn't ask for the no. They're having to fight. The war dies down. They're counting their dead. They're coming together at the survivors. It's all of our main characters. Everybody pretty much survives. [00:56:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:35] Speaker B: And they seek refuge in the home of one of the Seders, who happens to be a friend of Tolina, who's our nurse. Reminder. Reminder. Black woman. [00:56:46] Speaker A: Yep. Yep. [00:56:47] Speaker B: Okay. She goes, oh, my. My girlfriend lives here in town. We can stay at her house. Who should it be but a black female Seder and her family. So here's this gaggle of craziness coming to her doorstep and she's going, yeah, you can stay here. Yeah, I'll open my door to you. And I me, for me, I'm like, this is crazy, but who should give these people safe harbor? [00:57:11] Speaker A: Safe harbor. [00:57:12] Speaker B: But the blacks. [00:57:13] Speaker A: Yep. Like an underground. [00:57:15] Speaker B: An underground. An underrealm railroad under Realm, giving these people protection, going. You can hide out here for. For just a short amount of time. [00:57:25] Speaker A: They're coming. They're like coming out of nowhere in the Port Turtle or whatever. Like, they're just like stepping out of the air and bringing all this war to them. And then they're like, can I stay at your house? [00:57:36] Speaker B: And. And our people are like, do we have a choice? You people are coming here anyway. Can you be out by tomorrow at noon? Check out that. [00:57:45] Speaker A: She's like, you can't be here. [00:57:47] Speaker B: No. And even when they were like, you know, the whole thing in this land is to throw dead bodies down into the. The ocean, essentially. [00:57:55] Speaker A: Right, Right. [00:57:56] Speaker B: And the male satyrs are like, yeah, get the fuck off the land. [00:58:00] Speaker A: I know. Yeah. They're like, we gotta get rid of these. Like. And then, like, when they came to the door, it was just like, so. They were so entitled. It was like you know, like, of course you. I'm the. I'm the queen. You have to, like, give us safe harbor. [00:58:15] Speaker B: Oh, God. It very interesting how that all happens just once. I'm like, just give me a black princess. Give me a black queen. [00:58:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:25] Speaker B: Not a nurse. And somebody giving safe harbor to the fugitives leaving their realm, you know? [00:58:31] Speaker A: Hate it, hate it. [00:58:34] Speaker B: You know? [00:58:36] Speaker A: What do you got going on? [00:58:37] Speaker B: I don't know. My mom's, like, calling me twice, and I'm like, girl, what's going on? Everything all right out there? Who knows? We're locked in the cell back here in this recording booth, so I wouldn't even know. [00:58:47] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I'm trying to think of what else. [00:58:49] Speaker B: Mikey actually just sent us a text with one of a page that he just came across that was missing a quotation mark. So. Sharp eagle eyes. Which brings us to the point that there is a point in chapter 14 where it's mentioned that Carrion is with Lorath, but Karion is actually in another realm. Yeah. [00:59:09] Speaker A: And like, another. Not just another planet, not just another country, another realm. [00:59:13] Speaker B: Yeah. My man is trying to get his gold. [00:59:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:16] Speaker B: So he could come back and save the. Save the world. Oh, my God. [00:59:19] Speaker A: By the way, that, like, whole scene with the snake, that was kind of cool. Was it the snake or the spiders? [00:59:25] Speaker B: The spiders or the scorpions? [00:59:27] Speaker A: Scorpions, yes. Okay. Got there. [00:59:29] Speaker B: Yeah, we got there. You know, it's giving. It's giving me a little bit of the Mummy or the Mummy Returns featuring Brendan Fraser. A young Brendan Fraser. [00:59:36] Speaker A: A young Brendan Fraser. [00:59:37] Speaker B: Love that. Were you a Brendan Fraser fan? You know, not as a child, but now, like, I'll see like. Like, pictures or clips of him from back in that time, and I'm like, I don't hate it. I mean, I was just a girl. Now I'm a woman. [00:59:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:59:53] Speaker B: And now I see it. [00:59:54] Speaker A: I know. He was such a bad actor, though. [00:59:56] Speaker B: He's a very bad actor. But, I mean, give him some time. [01:00:00] Speaker A: I mean. [01:00:01] Speaker B: Yeah, and now he's. He's. [01:00:02] Speaker A: No, he's good. Yeah, he's doing good. [01:00:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:04] Speaker B: But back then, I think. I think for me it was just like. And. And maybe you two a little bit. It was the George of the Jungle did. [01:00:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:00:13] Speaker B: Did him no favors also. [01:00:15] Speaker A: Was he in Encino Man? [01:00:17] Speaker B: He was, yeah. So he played, like, dumb. [01:00:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that was it too. Yeah. [01:00:21] Speaker B: You're like, I can't. I'm sorry. You're typecast. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Yeah, he played, like, dumb, but, like, not funny, you know? Like, Pauly Shore was, like, dumb, but he was funny. Not that I was like, in a Polish. [01:00:30] Speaker B: I was about to be like. Is that. Is that. Is that the vein of humor? No. I mean, but has, like a very particular night. 90s. [01:00:39] Speaker A: Yes. [01:00:39] Speaker B: Humor. [01:00:40] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. He is like. Yeah. Like the. The sort of almost like Wayne's World. [01:00:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:47] Speaker A: You know, like that. You know, saying kind of goofy things, like, in goofy voices. Yeah. Yeah. [01:00:52] Speaker B: Sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. [01:00:53] Speaker A: No, I don't even know. I mean. Anything else about the book? [01:00:57] Speaker B: Let's see, I. Okay. Didn't see a lot of Everlane. She's still in the coma. [01:01:03] Speaker A: Yeah, that was. [01:01:04] Speaker B: I mean, you don't really trust her. [01:01:06] Speaker A: I don't trust her. But also, it was like, kind of like. Like, for most of the book, it was. She was just in a coma. They weren't even talking about her. [01:01:12] Speaker B: No. [01:01:13] Speaker A: Well, fine. [01:01:13] Speaker B: I hope she's well. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:16] Speaker B: The brother, Hayden. [01:01:17] Speaker A: Hayden. Hated him. [01:01:18] Speaker B: Hated him. What's your deal? [01:01:20] Speaker A: No, I know. [01:01:20] Speaker B: Get involved. [01:01:22] Speaker A: I know. I mean, it's like, you volunteer to come. Like, they. They didn't make you come here. I know. [01:01:29] Speaker B: He's just like, who am I here? What's my role? Get a job. [01:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. He's like, you never paid attention to me. Yeah. [01:01:38] Speaker B: Throw him in the quicksilver. [01:01:40] Speaker A: It's giving Gen z men. [01:01:42] Speaker B: No relic. [01:01:42] Speaker A: 20, 25. [01:01:43] Speaker B: Yeah. No relic. Just put it. Just dunk him under there. [01:01:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:46] Speaker B: Seriously. Let's see what happens. What else? Who else? Oh, Archer. I have to talk. Archer. Sweet. [01:01:53] Speaker A: Archer. Archer. Yeah. Yeah. [01:01:56] Speaker B: And we find that fire sprites in this book have the answer to killing the rock. But that would require them to sacrifice themselves. [01:02:06] Speaker A: So that's gonna come back in some way. [01:02:08] Speaker B: I think it's gonna make us really sad. [01:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, Archer's probably gonna die or something. There's gonna be something like that. [01:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:14] Speaker A: He didn't die in this, though. [01:02:16] Speaker B: He almost did. It was real rough. [01:02:18] Speaker A: I was really confused. Like, sometimes when I think of. Like when I'm reading about a fire sprite, I think of. What is that one little cartoon character that looks like a stone? Like a. Like a tree stump? [01:02:33] Speaker B: The Smurfs, maybe? [01:02:36] Speaker A: No, it's like it's a Groot. [01:02:39] Speaker B: Or Groot. [01:02:40] Speaker A: Groot. [01:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah. From Guardians of the Galaxy. [01:02:43] Speaker A: That's what I think of when I. When I think of the fire sprite. Yeah, we know that. They're gonna come back and something's gonna happen. [01:02:53] Speaker B: We need to talk about Onyx. [01:02:56] Speaker A: I loved Onyx. [01:02:57] Speaker B: Sweet baby. In the beginning, he's like. It opens with him, like running through the mountain path pass, trying to get away from these zombies, trying to get to his mother. I'm like, why is he out there in the first place? [01:03:08] Speaker A: I know. And you know what? It's like, she should have him in like, like safekeeping. You know what I mean? Like, he should be safe in her. Whatever apartment she has. But no, he's just out there trying to find her. [01:03:23] Speaker B: Just get a bag. Like I have. [01:03:24] Speaker A: I know. [01:03:27] Speaker B: Honestly, there's no way I would let that thing out of my cell. I'm sorry. I'd be like, I'm. The rot's just gonna have to take. [01:03:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I would just like go and. Yeah, I would go back to Zilver and just hang with a dog. [01:03:38] Speaker B: I'd be like, I'll get my little rash in the water today and we'll be all right. We'll be just fine. [01:03:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:45] Speaker B: Sweet baby angel. I mean, overall, loved it. Fun story. [01:03:49] Speaker A: Fun story. [01:03:50] Speaker B: This is what I think about with the fire sprite. [01:03:52] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Who is that? That's 50 Cent. Oh, my God. [01:03:57] Speaker B: Of his before I self destruct. [01:03:59] Speaker A: Oh, God. Oh, God, that's scary. [01:04:02] Speaker B: Jillian. [01:04:05] Speaker A: That'S what you think of the archer? [01:04:07] Speaker B: No, that's not what I think, but that's how I think the skin looks. [01:04:09] Speaker A: Oh, the skin. Oh. Oh, no. Oh my gosh. [01:04:14] Speaker B: Because it's cracked and fiery. [01:04:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't believe that. I either think it's like a. Like the emoji, like the fire emoji or Groot. That's all I think think of. [01:04:24] Speaker B: Yeah, that's so sweet. I'm thinking like a, like, little, like, person made of charcoal. [01:04:29] Speaker A: Okay, so we're definitely thinking of different things. [01:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm thinking of like, charcoal and how it's the veins and the fires coming through. [01:04:37] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Okay, Well, I guess that's it. Do you want to play the game? [01:04:43] Speaker B: Yeah, let's play a game. Okay. And who knows if this is even going to be, like, relevant to the book, but we are playing a very fun game, as everyone's gotten used to us doing so far. [01:04:54] Speaker A: Let's see. [01:04:57] Speaker B: Okay. Oh, my gosh. Jesus. Okay, let's get it together. Okay. Who's your brimstone boyfriend? [01:05:04] Speaker A: Oh. [01:05:05] Speaker B: Okay. This is a quiz. [01:05:07] Speaker A: Okay. [01:05:07] Speaker B: What's your ideal date? And honestly, I don't even know what the results are going to be based on what you choose. Just. [01:05:14] Speaker A: Okay, I'm going to. I'm going to write them down, make sure. [01:05:17] Speaker B: You're tracking. Okay. What's your ideal date? Is it A, breaking into a museum for educational purposes and maybe stealing nothing? Or maybe stealing everything? [01:05:27] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:05:28] Speaker B: Is it B, walking through a forest at night while a man silently judges you but also secretly protects you from 17 unseen threats? [01:05:36] Speaker A: Okay, no. You know, the entire world answered this question and said no. They'd rather have the bear. [01:05:41] Speaker B: The bear? Yeah. See? A beach bonfire with suspiciously perfect marshmallows and suspiciously imperfect emotional communication. Dinner somewhere candlelit. The candles may or may not be sentient. Don't ask. E, a rooftop where he dramatically tells you the tragic meaning of his latest tattoo. Or F, a tavern where everyone is afraid of him, but he brings you soup with a stick. Single perfectly sliced carrot. [01:06:09] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus Christ. What? I mean, I think I'm going A. [01:06:14] Speaker B: Breaking into a museum. [01:06:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:16] Speaker B: Okay. There you go. Okay. Pick a red flag you find endearing. A, stairs. Too long. Like, way too long. Like, do I have something on my face, or is he really so long? Is it B? Won't explain anything. Ever tell me what's happening? [01:06:30] Speaker A: No, no, definitely not. Yeah, that's. It's ridiculous. [01:06:35] Speaker B: C. Disappears for days and returns with cryptic injuries and a new weapon. Sounds like many of my exes. D. Has sworn. Has a sworn enemy but won't stop inviting them to events for the drama. O. That sounds toxic. [01:06:51] Speaker A: That sounds toxic, but it's, like, the best one so far. Yeah, keep going. [01:06:54] Speaker B: E. His pet doesn't like you at first, but then becomes weirdly protective. [01:06:59] Speaker A: Okay, this. Obviously, that's the answer. Why would that be? [01:07:02] Speaker B: Or F has a voice that makes you question your morals, religion, and possibly gravity. Okay. [01:07:09] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe that let. What's it. What is it? [01:07:11] Speaker B: What's a Pick a red flag you. [01:07:12] Speaker A: Find in nearing no pet. [01:07:14] Speaker B: Or the voice. What? [01:07:15] Speaker A: But what? [01:07:16] Speaker B: The. [01:07:16] Speaker A: The voice is like F or E. Yeah, okay. F. Yeah. [01:07:21] Speaker B: Choose a 90s accessory, you'd gift him A, a studded leather choker. He already owns three, but your energy will bless this one. B, a mood ring that never changes color, but he insists it does. See? A tearaway Tracksuit. He will 100% weaponize for intimidation. [01:07:40] Speaker A: Intimidation. [01:07:42] Speaker B: D, a Tamagotchi that he becomes unreasonably emotionally attached to. [01:07:46] Speaker A: No. [01:07:47] Speaker B: E, wraparound sunglasses he wears at night. [01:07:49] Speaker A: No. [01:07:50] Speaker B: Or F, a glitter paint pager with only one program. Message. [01:07:54] Speaker A: C. I'm gonna go see a tearaway tracksuit. [01:07:56] Speaker B: Yeah, okay, go ahead and write that down. Which chaotic 90s activity are you two doing together? Are you A, rollerblading downhill too fast? While he pretends he isn't impressed by your skills. B. Making mixtapes full of songs he claims he hates but secretly memorizes. C. Getting kicked out of a blockbuster after a disagreement about exactly how. How dark a dark comedy should be. D. Competing in a laser tag match that somehow ends with a blood oath. E. Slow dancing in the parking lot even though neither of you admit you like each other yet, or F. Staring dramatically out on of a rainy window while narrating your trauma to him. [01:08:34] Speaker A: God, I don't even know me. [01:08:36] Speaker B: It's going to be slow dancing in the parking lot. [01:08:38] Speaker A: I was going to say that. Yeah. [01:08:44] Speaker B: 5. Pick a vibe. Is it A, I can fix him, but also I won't because he's fun like this is it B. This man has seen too much, but also, he makes really great tea. Okay, is it C. He looks like he crawled out of a war, but smells like cedar and sin. Is it D. Chaotic neutral, but make it emotionally unavailable? [01:09:04] Speaker A: Oh, no, no. [01:09:05] Speaker B: E. I fear him, but in a sexy no, no. Is it F. This is a terrible idea, I pick him. [01:09:12] Speaker A: I guess that one F y. [01:09:15] Speaker B: He gives you a gift. What is it? A. A blade. A blade made with an engraving that's either a poem or a threat. B. A cloak that you swear moves on its own but keeps you warm. So, okay, a worn paperback annotated in the margins with snarky comments of D. A vial of some. Something he won't explain, but it's just you. [01:09:35] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus, Billy Bob. [01:09:39] Speaker B: Yeah. E. A necklace that hums. You pretend you don't know this or not. [01:09:45] Speaker A: A bullet. [01:09:50] Speaker B: F. A feather. No context, but it feels significant. [01:09:54] Speaker A: I guess I'd go with the book. [01:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I would do the book. [01:09:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Which one is that? [01:09:58] Speaker B: A C. Okay, okay, okay, last question. What's the energy when he walks into a room? Is it A, everyone goes quiet, not out of fear, but oh, of. Oh, that guy. [01:10:09] Speaker A: Oh my God. [01:10:10] Speaker B: B. People look away because eye contact might be dangerous. C. Someone whispers, who brought the feral one? D. A villain theme song should play, but somehow it's a boy band ballad. E. Half of the room wants to fight him, half wants to kiss him, or F he doesn't walk in, he appears. [01:10:29] Speaker A: G. F for sure. [01:10:30] Speaker B: Okay. F. Okay, okay, go ahead and tell. [01:10:33] Speaker A: Me what's the most. [01:10:34] Speaker B: Yeah. F. Okay. Lorath. Oh, no. You get the men you don't like. I know you said yes. With a side of destiny. Ethereal and settling, heart stopping. He appears when you need him, and sometimes when you don't. Oh, my God, you're a powerful, unknowable man with poetic trauma. [01:10:55] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. Wait, what? C. Because that was my second archer. [01:10:59] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [01:11:02] Speaker A: What about Carrie and her Tal. [01:11:04] Speaker B: They carrying was D. Okay. And Tal was B. Jesus. [01:11:09] Speaker A: And who was a kingfisher? Oh, my God. I didn't have any answers for Tal or a Carrie. [01:11:15] Speaker B: Really? [01:11:15] Speaker A: Yes. Oh, my God. [01:11:17] Speaker B: Well, you know. Know who developed this was your beloved chat GPT. So. Yeah. [01:11:20] Speaker A: So we never know. Yeah. I'm in default. And you know what? I'm just going to say that carrion was F. And that's. That's. [01:11:28] Speaker B: And you're sticking to it. That's your truth. [01:11:30] Speaker A: That is my truth. [01:11:31] Speaker B: In a post world. In a post truth world. [01:11:34] Speaker A: Yeah, that. [01:11:35] Speaker B: That works. That works. [01:11:36] Speaker A: Yeah. They're not regulating AI, so who cares? [01:11:38] Speaker B: Who cares? It is what you want to make it. I don't care. All right, well, I think that's actually. [01:11:43] Speaker A: I think that is our show. So we will. [01:11:45] Speaker B: If you're still here. [01:11:47] Speaker A: God bless. [01:11:48] Speaker B: Good night. [01:11:50] Speaker A: Sleep well. [01:11:51] Speaker B: Sleep well. [01:11:52] Speaker A: I know I will, but what was the. Okay, so our next one is going to be the. [01:11:58] Speaker B: We're picking up where we left off. [01:12:00] Speaker A: With Throne of Glass. Okay. So the second to last. Throne of Glass. [01:12:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:04] Speaker A: Is what. [01:12:05] Speaker B: It'll be. [01:12:05] Speaker A: Okay. [01:12:05] Speaker B: We're going to slowly but surely make our way through that. Yeah, we might have a little mini episode in between time. You know, we're just winging it. We're getting real creative over here. [01:12:13] Speaker A: Little holiday episode, maybe be. [01:12:15] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do it. Well, thank you for joining, as always. If you're feeling the vibe, which we hope you are, rate and subscribe. [01:12:24] Speaker A: Thank you to Lincoln Lodge and to our resident warlock, Christian McCann. Even though he wasn't here. [01:12:30] Speaker B: Exhaust. He. He left us today. Left us in this panic room. [01:12:33] Speaker A: I can't believe it. God, what was he doing? Was he touring the Santa Cr Class? He always does. [01:12:38] Speaker B: Oh, you may be. [01:12:39] Speaker A: Maybe we'll give him grace. Yeah, we'll give him. [01:12:43] Speaker B: We'll give him grace. He's out there spreading joy and love. [01:12:45] Speaker A: Love it. [01:12:46] Speaker B: During the holidays. Love him. All right, well, until next time. [01:12:50] Speaker A: Bye. [01:12:51] Speaker B: Bye. Let me get up across the room and turn this off.