Cell Block Tango

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Hi, and welcome to Spellbound, a Romantasy podcast. I'm Deidre. [00:00:12] Speaker B: And I'm Jillian. Hi. How you doing? [00:00:15] Speaker A: I'm all right. [00:00:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:16] Speaker A: Weather is not cooperating with me today. [00:00:18] Speaker B: Not. No, not at all. I mean, I left and I was like, should I give Luna a Prozac? [00:00:23] Speaker A: It wouldn't hurt. [00:00:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. She was already shaking. [00:00:26] Speaker A: I don't think she would disagree. I know. I hope you left her with one. [00:00:29] Speaker B: No, but then she. [00:00:30] Speaker A: My girl's in there, suff know she's dying. [00:00:34] Speaker B: We walk out to some heavy rain. I'm in trouble. [00:00:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. No, she ain't going to have it. No, she's just going to be in the fetal position when you get home. [00:00:41] Speaker B: She went and hid under my bed, and, like, I can't. She goes, like, so far that I can't even grab her unless I, like, tug her leg. And so I. Battle Royale. I was like, I don't. I don't know. Oh, God, skip the Trazodone today. [00:00:55] Speaker A: Okay. All right, well, she'll be okay, but I can kick the habit every now and again. [00:01:00] Speaker B: Did you walk here or. [00:01:01] Speaker A: No, I walked. [00:01:02] Speaker B: Oh, you did? [00:01:02] Speaker A: Oh, you. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Really? Yeah, in the middle. [00:01:05] Speaker A: I can't promise I'll do it every time, but by the time I stepped outside, it was already too late. I wasn't going to just, you know, drive over here, so. [00:01:12] Speaker B: Well, I will drive you home. I actually thought about that. I was like, okay, I need to clear some of these coffee cups out of here. [00:01:20] Speaker A: Yeah, you got a lot of things, some space you need to clear out for me there. I'm always. It's so funny to get in your car because I can be in your car on Tuesday of one week, and then I know what it looks like in there, but by Tuesday, the next week, when I approach your car to get in, it's a whole nother ball game that's passed for the whole other life that has passed in that car. And I'm like, what is happening? Where have you gone? What have you been doing? [00:01:43] Speaker B: Where have you guys been? Yeah, Yeah, I know a lot can happen a week. [00:01:47] Speaker A: Well, I certainly would appreciate a ride back to my house if you could spare the half city block, half the passenger seat. Yeah. Great. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Anything going on for you this week? Anything you're excited about? [00:02:01] Speaker B: No, you know. [00:02:05] Speaker A: No, no, no. Yeah. And that's fair. [00:02:09] Speaker B: That's basically it. You know I'm getting sued, right? Not a joke, by the way. Not a joke. [00:02:15] Speaker A: I've been refraining from checking on that. Because I feel like if I don't check in on it, if we don't talk about it, it's not real. [00:02:23] Speaker B: Oh, I thought it wasn't real either, but it's real. [00:02:25] Speaker A: No, the first time I reached out to you, you were like, I got a letter in the mail. I'm being sued. I'm like, what's going. What's our course of action? You're like, I don't know. I'm not really wor. Meanwhile me, I'd be in a completely catatonic state if I received a letter from a legal entity that was like, we're coming for you. And you're like, all right. [00:02:43] Speaker B: No, I feel like that's how I've been the whole time. So not only was I sent it, I was served the letter. It just. But at my parents house in Wilmette, Illinois. Right. [00:02:54] Speaker A: She loved that. The optics of that are great up there, as you can imagine. [00:02:59] Speaker B: I mean, they caught me, they found me. I don't know how they found me. [00:03:03] Speaker A: Some way, somehow they're gonna track you down. [00:03:05] Speaker B: I. [00:03:06] Speaker A: Is that Cook county up there? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. [00:03:10] Speaker B: My address, because that's a new address. Oh, you know what? I don't trust my own mail. And so sometimes I put their address. [00:03:18] Speaker A: And they found you. They was like, we got her. [00:03:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Ladies and gentlemen, we got her. [00:03:21] Speaker B: God. Speaking of, I'm. For those of you that are listening to. I'm in my late 30s and I'm getting served at my mother and father's house. [00:03:31] Speaker A: White collar crime. [00:03:33] Speaker B: I mean, I'm just wondering, how does one get a public defender? [00:03:38] Speaker A: I think, well, nobody's rights, right? [00:03:42] Speaker B: No. So do I have to have that? Oh, you can't just, like, get one? [00:03:46] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:03:47] Speaker B: I don't think so. [00:03:48] Speaker A: I think there's all types of. [00:03:49] Speaker B: You have to be under arrest. [00:03:52] Speaker A: I think maybe there's like free legal. Not free legal, but like legal aid. Yeah, legal aid. [00:03:59] Speaker B: That's what I should have done. Because, you know, I filed my appearance with the. With the county, you know, I did all this stuff, and then apparently now I'm in default. Maybe I did it wrong. Yeah. So now I have to show up at a corner. [00:04:11] Speaker A: What is going on? Are they going to come subpoena you? What's happening? I'm gonna throw you in the paddy wagon. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Yeah. If I don't show up on December, whatever, then I'm like, definitely good to be in default, and I was not. [00:04:25] Speaker A: You being in Gym Pop during the holidays, that's crazy. [00:04:30] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:04:31] Speaker A: I wouldn't do well. [00:04:32] Speaker B: I would not do well. [00:04:33] Speaker A: No. [00:04:34] Speaker B: Even holiday jail, I don't think I'd do well. [00:04:37] Speaker A: I'd be on the other end of that phone through the screen. Be like, you holding up? You doing well? We're all right out here. [00:04:43] Speaker B: How's your cellmate? [00:04:46] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Not default. [00:04:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So I have to show up. So I was like, mom, do you think I should get a lawyer at this point? [00:04:52] Speaker A: Can't she be your lawyer? [00:04:54] Speaker B: No, I don't. Well, I mean, I guess technically she could, but she's like, I don't have time for this. I was like, you know, I'm just gonna say, your honor, I'm representing myself. [00:05:07] Speaker A: And he's gonna be like, is this a plea for insanity? What's going on? [00:05:10] Speaker B: I'm pro se, and I know. I mean, it's possible. I could. I could get in jail. [00:05:17] Speaker A: So what's the deal? So you're in default. You have to go and plead your case as to why you're in default. [00:05:22] Speaker B: Or what's going on? [00:05:22] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:23] Speaker B: Because I. I don't know if I, like, filed it wrong or something. I use ChatGPT, and I thought. I mean, I. Maybe I should have. [00:05:31] Speaker A: This is why we can't trust the. The robots. People are falling in love with robots and finding success somehow. You're seeking legal advice, getting let down. A dark path. I don't know. Maybe it just doesn't work out for everyone. [00:05:45] Speaker B: It's not going to go well anyway. I don't know. We'll see. I guess December 11th or whatever it is. [00:05:52] Speaker A: I mean, I'm sending you up in my prayers. I'll still. I'll be in town. [00:05:55] Speaker B: You'll be in town. [00:05:56] Speaker A: Okay. [00:05:57] Speaker B: All right. [00:05:57] Speaker A: So let me mark that on my calendar, because I would be like, what's going on for you in the courthouse? [00:06:02] Speaker B: You'd have to Visit me at 26 and Cal. [00:06:04] Speaker A: It's going to be couples going in there to get a justice of the peace marriage certificates, and then you on trial for default. [00:06:15] Speaker B: Happy holidays. Happy Christmas. [00:06:18] Speaker A: Congrats. Wishing you many years of good luck. About to go in here, fight my default case. [00:06:27] Speaker B: I hope I get a nice judge. [00:06:29] Speaker A: You will. It's the holidays forgiving. [00:06:33] Speaker B: You know, I read that. Like, you're not supposed to. Not you're not supposed to, but, like, you're kind of screwed if you get a judge, like, right after. Right before lunch. Because, like, they're, you know, they're in a mood, they're hangry, and so they're more likely to. [00:06:48] Speaker A: Yeah, no, you need to be like late afternoon when they're like, I gotta get the hell. [00:06:52] Speaker B: They gotta like. It's a. It's the holidays. Yeah, we're closed tomorrow, man. [00:06:58] Speaker A: Well, that is a. That is a late breaking development in your life. Did you find out today? [00:07:02] Speaker B: No, I found out on Sunday. And then I was. [00:07:04] Speaker A: You're like, I'm gonna wait for Tuesday to reveal it on the. [00:07:07] Speaker B: I was. Yeah. No, I think I thought I told you. No, I Wait, I found out like a week ago. But I. I like. My mom then started yelling at me because it was another letter that was sent to my parents house. [00:07:20] Speaker A: So I don't have this trash coming to my house. It's. The optics are not great. [00:07:24] Speaker B: She's like, I won't talk to you until you send me what you filed. And I was like, okay. So I think I might have to talk to her about it this weekend. [00:07:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. Let's get her legal advice. Yeah, on the way. Well. [00:07:41] Speaker B: In other news on that note. Wait, so you've been. Okay. You've been just doing. [00:07:45] Speaker A: I've just been dealing with the. Which every day reveals some shocking new secret. I think I'm gonna have to get all new appliances. [00:07:54] Speaker B: You think so? [00:07:55] Speaker A: I think it might definitely a fridge. [00:07:57] Speaker B: Okay. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Definitely a fridge. Broken or. It's not broken, but it's. It's gross. Yeah. Yeah, like just like water, like just build up in and around like the water and ice dispenser. That's incredibly hard to access and get to. [00:08:12] Speaker B: No. [00:08:13] Speaker A: And I'm just like, what's the point in this? I like, you know. Yeah, we've done all we can here, but it feels like a little bit of a dnr. [00:08:19] Speaker B: Let's. Right, let's start fresh. [00:08:21] Speaker A: You know, the oven's fine, the microwave's fine. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Good. [00:08:25] Speaker A: The dishwasher is all right. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:27] Speaker A: It's not necessarily in the best. No, it's not in the necessarily the like the, the metallic wash that I would choose. It's like a dark, dark metal. I like, like, you know, just. Yeah. Standard issue. [00:08:41] Speaker B: Like silver. [00:08:41] Speaker A: Yeah. But you know, whatever. I'll make it work. Yeah, it's fine. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Maybe you can put like stick tile on it like she did with the bathroom floor. [00:08:50] Speaker A: I'll be doing no such thing. I mean, today I even put like thing I ordered like three dollar things from Amazon to stick and be effective behind the. Around the drywall, around the. The fire sprinklers in the wall. You know, those were Just exposed around the fire. And I'm like, this is not. [00:09:08] Speaker B: No. [00:09:08] Speaker A: What's going on? So I ordered some, like, replacement guards on Amazon. And I'm like, how was she not doing these things? It's crazy. [00:09:15] Speaker B: Wait, are you supposed to have guards over that or what if there's a fire? [00:09:19] Speaker A: So it's. [00:09:20] Speaker B: It's completely out. Okay, just. [00:09:21] Speaker A: But the thing is, it's like, it. It like, blocks the. It blocks the. The space around the drywall, which is dangerous because if smoke and things are coming through there, then it's not censoring correctly. And so it could be delayed in rendering. [00:09:38] Speaker B: Help. For me, she was doing all types of crazy stuff. [00:09:40] Speaker A: It is the worst. But in better news, I feel like the HOA is very effective. [00:09:45] Speaker B: Perfect. [00:09:45] Speaker A: They're very communicative. We got a new directory, digital directory outside the building. And my name wasn't put into it. Now, the previous owner's name wasn't in it either. Yeah. But I have noticed that people dropping packages off by the building are like, I don't see her name in here. I'm routing this back to ups. And so they've been pretty protective of that. [00:10:08] Speaker B: Oh, good, good. [00:10:09] Speaker A: So I reach out to the hoa was like, can I get my name in here? And, yeah, this morning it was. I got all the information to get me in there, and it's working. A. Okay, so that's good. [00:10:18] Speaker B: That's like having a good boss, you know? [00:10:20] Speaker A: I know, I know. [00:10:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:21] Speaker A: In other news, though, I have found that I live directly next door to the HOA president. [00:10:26] Speaker B: Do you? [00:10:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:27] Speaker B: No parties for you. [00:10:28] Speaker A: Then we share a wall, which, interestingly, I can't hear wall to wall, like, side to side. I can't hear anything. [00:10:35] Speaker B: Oh, good. [00:10:36] Speaker A: Which is great. I can hear somebody upside down upstairs walking around every now and again. I hear nothing from my neighbors to the left and right. [00:10:42] Speaker B: Oh, that's amazing. [00:10:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:44] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Yeah. But in. Only. Only, like, infrequently. [00:10:48] Speaker A: Infrequently upstairs, like, if they're getting ready for bed, like, 9, 30, 10 o', clock. I can hear somebody walking around. I can hear, like, little things. But yeah. Yeah, I. I've not lost any sleep. [00:10:57] Speaker B: Perfect. [00:10:57] Speaker A: Nobody's playing any loud music. [00:10:58] Speaker B: Perfect. Yeah. [00:10:59] Speaker A: Jumping good. Yeah. No, thank God. And luckily, I do know that the unit right above me is, like, exactly mine, basically. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:06] Speaker A: So I'm like, well, hopefully it'll only be people like me who don't necessarily. At most, they have, like, a dog right there. But hopefully they would find that it's too small of a space for a big dog. You know what I mean? [00:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:11:17] Speaker A: It's perfect for me and Birdie, though. [00:11:18] Speaker B: There you go. [00:11:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So that's that in the condo news. Condo news. Moved it. Moving. Like, my furniture is getting in there, and I've not been more excited for anything in my life. [00:11:29] Speaker B: I bet. I bet. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:31] Speaker B: The couch. [00:11:31] Speaker A: Yeah, Whatever. Whatever. You know, we're gonna make it through. [00:11:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:36] Speaker A: All right. Well, I love just catching up and getting mundane updates for two women in their late 30s. [00:11:42] Speaker B: Absolutely. Absolutely. You're doing a lot better than me. I'll say. [00:11:47] Speaker A: I'm. I'm watching over you. I am praying for you, and I'm gonna be down there at that courthouse on this. Bells and whistles on you. Got it? [00:11:58] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:11:59] Speaker A: It's gonna be great. [00:12:01] Speaker B: I'm gonna put you as my emergency. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Yeah, please. Please do. I'll be there. Because I have a feeling your mom's like, I don't have time. [00:12:06] Speaker B: She won't even know. She's like, don't call me. [00:12:10] Speaker A: I have no time for that. Okay, well, are you ready for a little bit of hear? You hear? [00:12:15] Speaker B: Ye. Absolutely. 100%. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Okay. I know how you feel about this. I don't really need to ask you, but for the sake of just entertainment value, what's your stance on athletic leggings? [00:12:31] Speaker B: What do you mean in terms of, like, should you wear a tunic over them? [00:12:34] Speaker A: No, but just in terms of. Do you think that they still. Do they still have value in your life? Do you still find that there's, like, stylish. Do you still. Do you work out in leggings? Is that your preferred. [00:12:45] Speaker B: I work out. Yeah. I work out in leggings. Yeah. What else would I work out in? [00:12:49] Speaker A: Well, okay, so Gen Z is apparently waging a war. [00:12:52] Speaker B: No. [00:12:53] Speaker A: Leggings. Yes. And there's an article in Vox just straight up called Gen Z's War on Leggings by Alex Abad Santos. [00:13:00] Speaker B: We're very. We. We're. We're dumbing down. We, like, have to really describe things. [00:13:05] Speaker A: We're basically just in the same way that ankle socks and, like, socks have been. Yeah, no show. Socks have been. Become an indicator of millennial cringe versus Gen Z. Cool. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:18] Speaker A: I guess they've set their sights on leggings recently. Okay. And there is now a conversation that's going on where it feels maybe it might be a little bit cringy to wear leggings to work out. And the preferred style that we're leaning into is more baggy, oversized. I think this is just clickbait, because as I read in the article, I don't think anybody is putting in a vote for working out or doing strenuous exercise in baggy clothes. [00:13:48] Speaker B: No, no. [00:13:48] Speaker A: They're wanting hazard. Yeah. They're wanting more compression, like, leggings, things like that for workouts. But they do, like, the relaxed look of a pair of, like, oversized sweatpants and maybe maybe a sweatshirt, some sneakers to kind of like, lounge around. [00:14:02] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:14:03] Speaker A: And to that I agree. [00:14:04] Speaker B: I love that. Yeah. [00:14:05] Speaker A: I was wearing a very nice, comfortable pair of sweatpants before I came over here, before I had to haul ass into this pair. [00:14:12] Speaker B: This mist. [00:14:13] Speaker A: Yeah. This pair of jeans. [00:14:15] Speaker B: This torture device. No, can't do it. [00:14:19] Speaker A: But, yeah, that's what's going on in the world at large. [00:14:21] Speaker B: I mean, I. You know, I was saying. I was thinking. I was like. Yeah, not based on my experience, like, in Pilates class. Like, they're all the gen zers. Are we, like, an entire Lululemon outfit? So Lululemon's still doing well. [00:14:36] Speaker A: You know, we come from a generation, though, that when we were, like, 18, 19, there, they weren't. Girls weren't wearing, like, leggings yet. It was like the mid. It was like 2008 and on, where I think leggings really started to, like, be a thing. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:14:50] Speaker A: Because before that, any leg. Any pants that I had that were, like, made for working out, they were, like, flared. They were like a little. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:58] Speaker A: You know, and boot cut. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Boot cut. Jesus, how embarrassing. [00:15:02] Speaker B: Yeah, No, I loved a boot cut. [00:15:06] Speaker A: Oh, my God. For your athletic pants. [00:15:08] Speaker B: Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was. It was flare, but, yeah. It was, like, in between, so it just was not, like, tapered at the leg. [00:15:17] Speaker A: But it's just. There is nothing like having to walk across, like, a college campus in the bottoms of whatever pants you're wearing getting, like, soggy because they're dragging on the ground. [00:15:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:26] Speaker A: Yeah. You know what I mean? [00:15:27] Speaker B: That's pretty bad. [00:15:27] Speaker A: That's something that we had to endure then. I don't think these. I don't think these girls have had the experience. [00:15:32] Speaker B: There was a lot of, like, you had to go to the tailor more. You know what I mean? [00:15:36] Speaker A: Were you going to the tailor? You were definitely going to the tailor. Beth had you in that tailor. She was like, we're gonna take. Yep. We're gonna pull those up. I was not going to the tailor. [00:15:50] Speaker B: No, no. Just doing the. The roll up or just dragging them. [00:15:55] Speaker A: I was just dragging. They were afraid. [00:15:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:57] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, battle tested is what we were going for. [00:16:00] Speaker B: I mean, we were basically so, like, you know, basically the. The hem would, like, rip off and that. Do you never. This didn't happen to you? [00:16:10] Speaker A: Probably. [00:16:11] Speaker B: Okay. And then it would, like just like drag behind you. And we just were like, whatever. [00:16:15] Speaker A: Beth's like, I didn't spend no 8 hours in a Nordstrom over at. What's our mall, Old Orchard. Old Orchard. [00:16:23] Speaker B: I was at Woodfield. I was early. [00:16:26] Speaker A: Yeah. To be having this. Him break free. [00:16:30] Speaker B: I know. Last time we went, she looks over me in the car and goes, is that what you're wearing? And I was like, mom, we're shopping. I'm going to Nordstrom to buy clothes. And she's. Yeah, Is that what you're wearing? [00:16:43] Speaker A: She's a beast. [00:16:44] Speaker B: I know. [00:16:45] Speaker A: Not playing with y'. All. And for that we salute her. But you have a very interesting article for us this week that you sent through earlier today. I'd love to hear a little bit more about it. I saw the headline. I agree with the headline. But I'd love to hear a little bit more of an in depth analysis. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah. So apparently plastic surgeons are saying that people are coming in. I don't know if they're using this term. I don't think so. But basically, like, they're asking for mar a lago face. [00:17:09] Speaker A: I mean, can you imagine asking? I mean, no, that would mean that you're not in on the joke to go in and ask for that. [00:17:16] Speaker B: Right, Right. Yeah. Or you're just like fully accepted it. [00:17:19] Speaker A: Y face are they asking for. Because they all have the same face. [00:17:22] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. So it's like, you know, they're plastic surgeons in D.C. because it's like this kind of mar a lago. Yes. Mar a lago crowd that came up to dc. Yeah. And they're like, they'll, you know, so they'll have filler in and they like, want more filler. [00:17:40] Speaker A: You might as well go to Tijuana, Mexico to get plastic surgery. I mean, you're gonna get a better job done there than a hack job in dc. They don't know what the fuck is going on in DC. I read an article today and it was like DC's Hollywood for ugly people. Yeah. I mean, what kind of true. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Yeah. The power. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Take the Amtrak, the Acela train up to New York to a certified. [00:18:02] Speaker B: That is crazy. [00:18:02] Speaker A: Repeatable. [00:18:03] Speaker B: That is crazy. [00:18:04] Speaker A: It's giving budget. [00:18:05] Speaker B: It is discount. Yeah, yeah. It's giving Groupon. [00:18:11] Speaker A: Yeah. It's definitely giving Groupon. That's crazy. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. [00:18:16] Speaker B: So, no, it's basically like people that used to live or, I don't know, used to be, like, in Florida and the Trump administration and then. And then came up. So. But there are a lot of plastic surgeons that are like, I'm not gonna do that. Like, I won't do something that's like, doesn't look like a human face. [00:18:33] Speaker A: They're like, I'm not gonna get in here and do a Frankenstein. [00:18:36] Speaker B: No, it is. What is it, Maleficent or. [00:18:39] Speaker A: Maleficent? [00:18:40] Speaker B: Yeah. It's basically the one woman was like, I told. A patient came in and I was like, no, I'm not doing that. You're gonna look like Maleficent or whatever. [00:18:47] Speaker A: The Angelina Jolie version. [00:18:49] Speaker B: The Angelina Jolie version with those cheekbones. Okay, cool. [00:18:54] Speaker A: Most of these women look like the Crypt Keeper. [00:18:56] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. [00:18:57] Speaker A: I mean, just baseline that. [00:18:59] Speaker B: Like the press secretary. I mean, she looks like she's 52. She's like 26. [00:19:04] Speaker A: Awful. And Christine. Oh, I don't know how many ways you can pluck and pull a sack of potatoes like that. That's crazy. Horrible. [00:19:14] Speaker B: Somebody told me that. They were like, I don't care how much you stretch it, the bones are the same underneath. [00:19:22] Speaker A: That's like people saying, ugly uglies to the bone. That's my favorite thing. Ugly is to the bone. And that's true. [00:19:31] Speaker B: That hurts so deep. [00:19:34] Speaker A: There's nothing you can do about that. That's just. That's just God given. [00:19:40] Speaker B: Oh, my God. So funny. [00:19:42] Speaker A: Speaking of horrible plastic surgery. Totally. [00:19:45] Speaker B: To the phone. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Did you hear the news that Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez are going to be in charge of the Met Gala next year? No. [00:19:53] Speaker B: What. What's happening to Anna? Is she. Oh, she's retiring. [00:19:56] Speaker A: They're like the sponsors. They're like the sponsors of next year's Met Gala. [00:19:59] Speaker B: Because you know who was this year? Colman, Domingo. [00:20:03] Speaker A: There were multiple sponsors. Yeah, right. [00:20:05] Speaker B: So that's what we're going to now. [00:20:07] Speaker A: Yeah, now. [00:20:07] Speaker B: We're going to the way of the world now. Yeah. [00:20:10] Speaker A: Which I'm like, what the fuck do they have to offer the Met Gala? [00:20:13] Speaker B: The world vibes are off. They're just off. [00:20:15] Speaker A: I don't. I'm like, stop giving them a platform. Lauren Sanchez has no style. She does not look. Her plastic surgery looks terrible. [00:20:22] Speaker B: Terrible, terrible. [00:20:24] Speaker A: I hate to see it. I won't be watching. And I don't think. I'm like, it was crazy. [00:20:28] Speaker B: I mean, you like. You look at her and you half expect her to like, basically like, her skin to separate and the zipper to come down and her be like a demon or something. [00:20:38] Speaker A: I mean, not saying. That's not what's happening. It's not. Not happening. She looks a little muppetish to me. [00:20:45] Speaker B: She does, she does. [00:20:47] Speaker A: But she. [00:20:49] Speaker B: I mean, I don't understand the clothes she wears either. Terrible styles. [00:20:53] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I think when you're that ultra wealthy though, you, like, don't have a sense of style. It's crazy. [00:20:59] Speaker B: Yeah. You'd think you'd surround yourself with people, though. I don't know. [00:21:02] Speaker A: I would. I'd have like just the most perfect. Like, Zendaya has LA roach. I'd be like on call. Let's do it. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Zendaya does everything right. [00:21:13] Speaker A: What celebrities are they even gonna have at the Met Gala next year? [00:21:16] Speaker B: The nobody's. Well, everybody who went to that fucking wedding is gonna come. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't think a lot of people are gonna come. [00:21:22] Speaker A: No, Nobody cool. It's gonna be Sydney Sweeney sitting up in there. Who wants to see that? [00:21:28] Speaker B: Probably Glenn Powell at that point, too. Let's be honest. [00:21:31] Speaker A: He's not confirmed nor denied anything. But I mean, let's be. Let's be honest. He's a poster boy. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Yeah. He's got conservative face. Yeah. [00:21:41] Speaker A: To the bone. [00:21:42] Speaker B: He's got a lacrosse face and. Yeah, absolutely. So in other news. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:47] Speaker B: Biggest news of this week. Something's coming out and it's called Wicked For Good. [00:21:52] Speaker A: Oh, you're so excited. [00:21:53] Speaker B: I'm so excited. [00:21:53] Speaker A: And we're going to a suburban strip mall. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Yep. [00:21:57] Speaker A: To view it. Because all the tickets in Chicago have been sold out. All of them. [00:22:00] Speaker B: And then. But the suburban ones are like, it's. Everything is. Because it's 7:30 on a Friday night and all the kids are asleep. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. They're like, we've gone into our crypt. You know, we don't have a life anymore. [00:22:11] Speaker B: I know, I know. We can't go see Wicked for good. Are you kidding? [00:22:14] Speaker A: I mean, I hope that we can even get to the local Chili's and get a margarita at 5:30 in the afternoon. I mean, I'm hoping. I'm hoping they're not closed for that. Can you imagine? [00:22:24] Speaker B: Did you see those? [00:22:25] Speaker A: The Bible Bell. [00:22:26] Speaker B: I'm sorry. I'm so excited for those drinks. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Are they pink and green? [00:22:34] Speaker B: No, one of them's pink, One of them's green. [00:22:36] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. I guess we're choosing sides now, which is not The. [00:22:43] Speaker B: You know what side I'm on? Elphaba, of course. [00:22:46] Speaker A: No, you're not on the side of fascist Glinda. [00:22:48] Speaker B: No. My princess Cynthia saved Ariana. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:53] Speaker B: From that crasher. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, I know. Just another black woman doing labor anyway. [00:22:59] Speaker B: Saving a white woman. [00:23:02] Speaker A: Evergreen. Every day we got to keep our head on the soil. It's going to be me December 11th at the courthouse. It's the way it is, your honor. [00:23:14] Speaker B: No, don't take her away. [00:23:16] Speaker A: It's the holiday. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Have a heart. [00:23:22] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Okay, well, that's it for me this week. [00:23:25] Speaker B: I guess we have to get started in the book, I think. [00:23:27] Speaker A: So what are we reading this week? [00:23:28] Speaker B: So it's called Empire, Empire. Empire of Storms. I know I didn't take my propranolol. [00:23:36] Speaker A: The other star of this podcast. [00:23:39] Speaker B: So I might be having the physical symptoms of anxiety, which includes slurring my words. So this book came out on September 6, 2016, by Sarah J. Maas. Little bit of a check in in 2016. Where were you? [00:23:57] Speaker A: Absolutely positive that Hillary Clinton was gonna be our next president? [00:23:59] Speaker B: Me too. My God, no. [00:24:02] Speaker A: Okay, so the craziest thing, I don't know if I've said it on here, but I had a friend two years later. I met her years later, and it was during the first Trump administration. I didn't know her when Trump was running for office, but anyway, she lived here in Chicago and she threw a party with all of her best girlfriends and they had a power suit party. Like, all the women showed up in power. [00:24:24] Speaker B: Yes. [00:24:25] Speaker A: Obviously, the night went as the night went. I'm just thinking about all our sisters standing in their pantsuits, devastated at the outcome. She said it was not a great scene. [00:24:38] Speaker B: I was like crying in there, but. [00:24:42] Speaker A: I still had hope. That was like the. The final days of, you know, living. [00:24:47] Speaker B: Well, that really was like. Yeah. [00:24:50] Speaker A: I mean, life. I mean, personally, I was still making crazy choices. [00:24:52] Speaker B: Me too. [00:24:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:54] Speaker B: It wasn't going to get any better with Trump, though. [00:24:56] Speaker A: No. [00:24:56] Speaker B: You know, I remember, like, around. Well, when he, you know, his first administration, that was the time where I was, like, watching a lot of memes or looking at a lot of memes of Obama and Biden and being like, I miss this. I really miss this. [00:25:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it's rough. [00:25:11] Speaker B: It was rough. [00:25:12] Speaker A: We don't have that. But anyway, Sarah J. Maas was releasing. She was just climbing of a book. [00:25:17] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah, I know. It's now, like, it's so many. The girl booktok. Girlies like the Bible, basically. [00:25:23] Speaker A: Is this one of their favorite books in the series. [00:25:25] Speaker B: I think so. I think the favorite is the last book. [00:25:28] Speaker A: Okay. [00:25:28] Speaker B: And I'm gonna say the sixth book, the next book is probably not a favorite. [00:25:32] Speaker A: Oh, it's our boy Kale. [00:25:33] Speaker B: It's about. Yeah. [00:25:34] Speaker A: He's out there at Terracotta or whatever it's called. Getting Fixed. [00:25:39] Speaker B: Isn't that a kind of tile? [00:25:40] Speaker A: It is, but for the fact that I can't remember what the town is in the book, and many lists don't either. We're just gonna go for Terracotta. [00:25:48] Speaker B: It's on the southern continent. That's all. I know. Yeah. [00:25:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:51] Speaker B: But. Okay, so. So you just want to get into it or what? [00:25:56] Speaker A: Yeah, let's get into it. So, you know, I'm not working with 100%. I know, I know. But I'm gonna do my best here and we can, you know, chit chat about it. Yeah. This book starts out with. With our favorite leading character, Aelin. [00:26:13] Speaker B: Yep. [00:26:14] Speaker A: Our queen. Our Queen of Tarasen Terasen, basically in the woods with her ramshackle group of friends and her boyfriend, Scooby Doo. It's giving that very much. And they're like, we're broke. We're tired. We need to rally some support around our cause, essentially. And so they have this meeting at a local pub. It's basically like, you know, a city council meeting, essentially. And they're trying to drum up support for Aelin being the chosen Queen of Terasen. [00:26:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:49] Speaker A: It does not go well. [00:26:50] Speaker B: No. [00:26:51] Speaker A: The folks are like, you're not gonna be our right in candidate. We're not feeling you. And the number one, the star who rose to the front for me is Darrow, the former partner of Aelin's uncle, the King. [00:27:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And he reads her for filth. He's like, you're young, you're untested, you're unqualified. Yeah. [00:27:13] Speaker B: She's like. He's like, who is this Scooby Doo gang with you? [00:27:16] Speaker A: Rightly so. He had his questions. And so essentially they're like, you know what? We'll go out here and we'll fundraise. We'll go out here, we'll campaign. We'll campaign. We'll do a little bit of a gofundme and we're going to show you. Yeah. This is the candidate to get. [00:27:33] Speaker B: I'm gonna bring you back. Yeah, some. Some voters. [00:27:36] Speaker A: Exactly. And so they're like, I'd like to see it. I'd really like to see it. So they're like, ta, ta. And they go back out, and they, you know, circle the wagons again, and they make their plan for what they need to do, since they don't have the support that they thought. [00:27:49] Speaker B: I don't even remember where they went at this point. [00:27:51] Speaker A: I'll tell you where they went. They went anywhere. They go to the same place anybody goes when their spirits weary. The Caribbean. [00:27:57] Speaker B: The pir. Oh, the Pirates cove. [00:27:58] Speaker A: Yes. They go to the Caribbean. So they're like, I got. I got a little pirate bay down there. [00:28:03] Speaker B: Let's go. [00:28:03] Speaker A: He owes me a favor. Yeah. He's a little bit of a criminal, but let's go. [00:28:07] Speaker B: He's a slaveholder is really what he is. Yeah, yeah. Slave trader. [00:28:11] Speaker A: Yeah. So they're like, let's head down there and just pay him. Let's go see what he's up to. I love it. This is great. [00:28:16] Speaker B: What's going on with Ralph. Yeah. [00:28:18] Speaker A: And so they head down. They make their merry way down there. Now, meanwhile, as you recall, in the city that never sleeps. Rift hold. [00:28:26] Speaker B: Rift hold. Yep. Oh, right, right. [00:28:29] Speaker A: All out war is raging. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah. The witches. [00:28:32] Speaker A: The witches have come. They have taken over the city. And our good friend Dorian. [00:28:40] Speaker B: Dorian. Prince of whatever. [00:28:42] Speaker A: Yeah. A darling prince of whatever. He's recovering from what can best be described as a terrible tapeworm. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Yes. Terrible demon tapeworm. Yes. [00:28:51] Speaker A: And our lovely Manon shows up to save the day. Right. [00:28:55] Speaker B: She said a great witch queen. Love that. [00:28:57] Speaker A: She shows up and she's like, I'm gonna save my man. And so she gets her man and she pulls him out of there. She saves him. Right, Right. [00:29:06] Speaker B: Well, no, she doesn't pull him out. Rowan. [00:29:07] Speaker A: Rowan pulls him out. [00:29:08] Speaker B: The boring. Yeah. Prince Rowan comes in and saves him or. And takes him out. Yeah. [00:29:14] Speaker A: And then Manon goes back to her witch coven. [00:29:17] Speaker B: It's not gonna go well for her. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Is she, like you on December 11. [00:29:21] Speaker B: Stands before a tribunal, her grandmother and the other matrons. [00:29:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:27] Speaker A: And then a fight breaks out, and I was like, ghetto. [00:29:31] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Is that when you cried, though? Is this when you cried, when you. [00:29:36] Speaker A: Texted me and said, I can't remember when it was that I. Okay. I said that I cry. But essentially, they fight. Granddaughter and grandmother fight, and the granddaughter, it is then revealed that she's biracial. [00:29:52] Speaker B: Right, right. She's half croaken. Yeah. [00:29:55] Speaker A: And she's been hunting the other side of herself first. Oh, yeah. She killed her decades now. Yeah. And so she is, in fact, the last living queen of the rival witch coven. Coven, yeah, Essentially. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:10] Speaker A: We leave her to deal with that. [00:30:13] Speaker B: Well, no. So it wasn't that when Astrin died. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Did Astrin die? [00:30:18] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Astron was gonna be beheaded, but then she said, no, I'm gonna stab my bitch grandmother, as one does. [00:30:27] Speaker A: I mean, you gotta make a split second decision, and you go stabbing my bitch grandmother. It's the most white trash situation I've ever seen in my life. I couldn't believe my eyes. [00:30:38] Speaker B: No. [00:30:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Crazy. [00:30:41] Speaker B: And then. And then they reveal. She reveals. [00:30:43] Speaker A: You're. [00:30:43] Speaker B: You didn't even know who your daddy was. [00:30:46] Speaker A: I mean, it's got all the markings of a, like, white trash brawl on Maury. On the Maury Povich Show. It's the craziest thing, but I was. I was enthralled. [00:30:58] Speaker B: I was enthralled, too. I loved it. [00:31:00] Speaker A: Yes. [00:31:00] Speaker B: I loved it. But she got away. [00:31:02] Speaker A: Yes, as did the 13. And we don't know where they go. [00:31:06] Speaker B: No. Yeah. So she got away on Abraxos the Wyvern, and then went all the way to the ship. They're. The others are on a ship now, right? [00:31:17] Speaker A: They're down there. [00:31:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Some barge. [00:31:19] Speaker A: A lot of time down in the water. [00:31:21] Speaker B: In this book, we did. Wait, by the way, what's a barge? [00:31:25] Speaker A: It's just a. It's just a boat. [00:31:27] Speaker B: That's. Okay, so it's like almost like an oil. Like it's a huge boat. [00:31:31] Speaker A: That's what I. I mean, but in the way that it was described in this book, it seemed like a little. Just a little. [00:31:37] Speaker B: Tugboat, but like. Like a tugboat in the bath, I mean. [00:31:43] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. [00:31:44] Speaker B: But then it was like. Then they were in these cabins and there was these huge rooms, so I don't know what it was. [00:31:51] Speaker A: I love that you're mentioning cabins. I have. No, on the boat. [00:31:55] Speaker B: On the boat, yeah. [00:31:55] Speaker A: Rooms. [00:31:56] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. [00:31:58] Speaker A: Okay, so then in the woods somewhere. [00:32:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:02] Speaker A: We've got a lead. [00:32:02] Speaker B: Oh, I love a lead. [00:32:03] Speaker A: I love a lead, too. Heartbreaking character for me. [00:32:06] Speaker B: Oh, my God. A little bit of a pathetic character, I gotta say. [00:32:09] Speaker A: Well, she's just. I mean. But a little bit against her own will. A little bit. [00:32:14] Speaker B: I mean, you know, she's been through a lot, too. [00:32:16] Speaker A: She's been through a lot. And she wants to be seen as valuable and needed. And she's worried that, like, all of the elements about her that are against her, you know, the things that she can't control, essentially, based on how she was raised. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Right. [00:32:33] Speaker A: Will make her seem less valuable in the eyes of Aelin for her eventual Court. Yeah. Yeah. Like, she's, you know, she's got a limp. [00:32:41] Speaker B: I know. And you know what Sarah never meant, Never missed an opportunity to say. And then she started limping along. I mean, as a verb, Sarah. [00:32:53] Speaker A: I'm always like, what is Sarah doing for disability rights? [00:32:58] Speaker B: Seriously? [00:32:59] Speaker A: Seriously. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. She is very ableist sometimes in her writing. [00:33:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:03] Speaker B: Like, you know when a lead was, like, trying to run or like she was trying to get away, and then she'd be like, oh, there's. There's a lead. Limping, limping away. [00:33:17] Speaker A: Please give some dignity to the girl. She also can't read. [00:33:21] Speaker B: That was bad. That was bad. [00:33:22] Speaker A: So sad. And then she's like. I just hated the moments when she was like, I'll. I'll mop floors, I'll come clean, I'll do whatever. It just felt sad. [00:33:30] Speaker B: It was sad. [00:33:31] Speaker A: But anyway, she's alone in the woods and she's trying to make. She's on a mission to get some very coveted material to Selina Sardothian. [00:33:41] Speaker B: Little Rock. [00:33:42] Speaker A: Yep. And Alien Galephanus. [00:33:45] Speaker B: Little worry stone. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:47] Speaker B: See, the branolon won't help. [00:33:51] Speaker A: And she runs into Lorkhan in the woods. Her protector. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Very scary. 500-year-old man. Yes. [00:34:00] Speaker A: And the two of them set off on their adventure together, finding love and friendship along the way. [00:34:06] Speaker B: God bless. [00:34:07] Speaker A: Meanwhile, let's go back to the Caribbean, shall we? [00:34:10] Speaker B: Skulls bait. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Yes. And our folks down there are having a time absolutely tearing apart Rolf. [00:34:20] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. Oh, that poor man. I mean, he couldn't catch a break. [00:34:23] Speaker A: No, they're fighting him. They're lying to him. They're conniving. [00:34:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:34:31] Speaker A: And down there, they meet two new members of. What I like to say is the boy band. That is the cadre. [00:34:37] Speaker B: Right. The Gavriel. Do you. Do you pronounce it? Or. Gavriel. [00:34:42] Speaker A: Gavriel. That's how. [00:34:44] Speaker B: That's her side too. Yeah. [00:34:45] Speaker A: And it's so funny because of the cadre. Right. We've got Gavreel. We've got Lorkin. Lorkin. We've got Fenris. [00:34:55] Speaker B: Fenris. [00:34:55] Speaker A: We've got Rowan. Yep. And then. Honorable mention. Honorable mention for me is Adien in this book. I know he's not part of the cadre officially, but part of just the storyline. It's five, which to me brought memories of the. All of the boy bands of the 90s. [00:35:14] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, give a little bit of that. Yeah. You have the Rowan as just like jt. [00:35:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The main character. You've got Rowan, the older brother. You've got. Good. For real. The just absolutely stunning good looking one is kind of the main character. But that's Fenris. [00:35:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:31] Speaker A: Then you've got your. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Like, kind of goofy one. [00:35:36] Speaker A: Bad boy, which is Lorcan Salvateri, mind you. Italian guaranteed. [00:35:42] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. [00:35:42] Speaker A: Sicilian, possibly. And you've got your goofy one. [00:35:47] Speaker B: Your goofy one. Adien. Adien. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Yeah. That's basically it. [00:35:50] Speaker A: Were you a big 90s boy band fan? [00:35:52] Speaker B: No, I really. I mean, no. Who did I like? I liked, like. No, really. I really wasn't. Okay. I was more like Eurythmics. I was talking about this with Clark. [00:36:09] Speaker A: I'm Clark. That's alternative. Trying to be supportive. He's like, oh, yeah, okay. [00:36:17] Speaker B: He's like, we listen to Mariah Carey. Yeah. And all their good ones. [00:36:22] Speaker A: No, I was a big boy band girl in the 90s. Yeah. My first concert was a Backstreet Boys concert in Dallas, Texas. [00:36:29] Speaker B: There you go. [00:36:29] Speaker A: At the Coca Cola Starplex. God bless my mom. She got lawn seats for us. [00:36:34] Speaker B: Oh. Huh. [00:36:35] Speaker A: And I liked Nick Carter. For some reason. That choice has not aged well. [00:36:40] Speaker B: No, no. [00:36:41] Speaker A: Is he. [00:36:41] Speaker B: No. Aaron Carter is the one who died. [00:36:43] Speaker A: Aaron Carter may rest in peace. Who I should have been paying attention to, and I'll tell anybody this that's listening. Is Kevin Richardson of the Backstreet Boys. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:51] Speaker A: You know, he's the big brother, but he was nearly damn. 30 years old by the time I came along. [00:36:56] Speaker B: He was old. Yeah. Yeah. [00:36:58] Speaker A: He's good looking now, though. [00:36:59] Speaker B: Oh, my God. There was. Okay, so I used to work with him, this girl. And then she. When Aaron Carter died, she was devastated. Yeah, she was devastating. She put on social media. She was like. Like, apparently they had a thing. [00:37:16] Speaker A: They had a thing. [00:37:17] Speaker B: They had a thing. Like, they were like. She was like. He was her boyfriend for a while. [00:37:22] Speaker A: In the midst of him dating Lohan and Hillary Duff. [00:37:25] Speaker B: Did they. [00:37:26] Speaker A: Did. Oh, they had a huge, like, feud in the early. Doubled up on her in high school. Yes. Do you remember this? [00:37:33] Speaker B: Hilary Duff and Lindsay Lohan. [00:37:34] Speaker A: They were like, feuding over Aaron Carter, of all people. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. [00:37:38] Speaker A: Early 2000s. Let me tell you, it was not for the. It was not for the weak at heart. Okay. It was crazy. [00:37:44] Speaker B: Shia LaBeouf was still considered, like, a good actor, Like a normal. [00:37:47] Speaker A: You're like, oh, love my baby, Shia. Let me put on this. Sweet dreams are made of these. [00:37:51] Speaker B: I know. I did love Shia in that show. What. What show? Disney show. [00:37:56] Speaker A: Stevens. [00:37:59] Speaker B: Anyway, sorry. So boy band. [00:38:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I just. This is What I kept thinking of throughout the book, when our members come together. [00:38:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:05] Speaker A: But essentially now the boy band is fully intact. Yeah. And, yeah, they're like, okay, we're better in numbers. [00:38:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, frankly, there were too many of them. [00:38:16] Speaker A: Okay, tell me what your thoughts are. [00:38:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I. First of all, it was very confusing for me that Adion and Aylin and. Who's the one that came in the end? Aslan or something. Something. There were so many names that, like. Like, it was hard because they sounded very similar. They both started with ae and they kept being like, aylin did this. Aiden. I'm like, I can't get it straight. [00:38:39] Speaker A: I know there would be times where my eyes would just cross. [00:38:41] Speaker B: For sure. [00:38:42] Speaker A: For sure. [00:38:43] Speaker B: I don't know which one it is. [00:38:44] Speaker A: I'd have to start fresh. And after about maybe 45 minutes of reading, I'd be like, I'm. They're. They're running together too much. [00:38:49] Speaker B: Too much. Yeah. But, you know, I did love Fenris, so I still have hope. Yeah, I still have hope for him. He was a little, like, little edgy, a little witty. Like, a very large contrast to Rowan, who's just boring, and he's, like, fucking aggressive. [00:39:07] Speaker A: He's so boring. [00:39:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:10] Speaker A: It's interesting because Rowan still gave me nothing in this book. Fenris. I'm fine to see more of him. Gavreel, brokenhearted over that story about the father, son, like, missed opportunity. [00:39:26] Speaker B: Adeon was like, you're not my dad. Yeah, it's bad. [00:39:28] Speaker A: It's rough. I'm like, hopefully y' all work through that. God bless. And then Lorcan. Mm. My God, what a tragic character. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Wow. He is tragic. We need to talk about how he really betrayed in the end. Yeah, he did. Yeah. [00:39:41] Speaker A: You know, and it's sad because, I mean, I feel like for all the time we spent with Lorkin and Elide in their time together, I was like, maybe we're getting somewhere. But, like, for that final betrayal to happen, and I was like, no, this is rough. I don't know how you're gonna climb back from this. Yeah, I see, like. I see potential under him, but the. The green flags don't outweigh the red flags with him. [00:40:07] Speaker B: For sure. For sure. And at the end when he was, like, crawling on his hands and knees because whatever Maeve took away the blood oath, that was bad. [00:40:15] Speaker A: That was weird. I'm like, you're free now. Like. Like, if there was a moment to really show that, like, he was here for the. The cause of the the righteous. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:40:27] Speaker A: Don't you think he would have, like, stumbled backwards toward a lead? [00:40:30] Speaker B: Totally. Especially when she, like, Maeve was the one who broke the cur. Like, he could have been like, oh, now I'm free, you know? Yeah, I don't know. But anyway, so we're in skulls bay. Then what? Then it's like there's this whole battle. I don't remember what happened. [00:40:45] Speaker A: There's multiple battles. [00:40:46] Speaker B: There's so many battles. And then, you know what was, like, notable about that was our girl Lysandra. [00:40:53] Speaker A: Okay, we need to take a moment. We need to take a moment. The labor. [00:40:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:40:58] Speaker A: Disparity among everybody in the school, you. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Know, it's so true. That's so true. Yeah, yeah. The division of labor is bad. [00:41:06] Speaker A: Put this on her back. There was nobody fighting more and better than Lysandra. First of all, I need a book about her. [00:41:14] Speaker B: Me too. Me too. That would be great. Yeah. [00:41:16] Speaker A: I mean, just an incredible character. As a reminder, she's a shapeshifter. [00:41:20] Speaker B: Love it. Yeah. [00:41:21] Speaker A: Most of the time in this book, you saw her as a little cute ghost. Leopard. [00:41:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:26] Speaker A: Then she'd be in her human form and then she would take this. The. The shape of multiple marine animals. [00:41:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. [00:41:33] Speaker A: She was a seahorse. [00:41:35] Speaker B: She was. I don't remember. Seahorse. [00:41:36] Speaker A: She was like. Or sea dragon. [00:41:38] Speaker B: Dragon. [00:41:38] Speaker A: Dragon. [00:41:39] Speaker B: Dragon. [00:41:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Basically to drum up the sequel, support of a long gone or basically civilization that really rallied around the sea Dragon. Remember, it was like Captain Rol's people. And so to see her as the sea dragon would rally their support and like really kind of pull them out from hiding, wherever they were. So we never really like, saw too much of them. [00:42:04] Speaker B: I feel like in this book. Oh, you know what I think about every time you say Captain Rolf. Captain Ron. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Who's Captain Ron? [00:42:10] Speaker B: You never saw that movie in the 90s? [00:42:12] Speaker A: What is that? [00:42:13] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Who was in it? Let's see. Christian, did you ever see that? Captain Ron. Okay, okay, let's see. Oh, yeah. Okay. Kurt Russell was Captain Ron. [00:42:31] Speaker A: I need to look into that. You know, a 98s 90s Kurt Russell short, not terrible Kurt Russell. [00:42:36] Speaker B: It was great. [00:42:36] Speaker A: That's the movie. It's called Captain Ron 1992. [00:42:39] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [00:42:40] Speaker A: No, that did not make it into my parents VHS collection. [00:42:44] Speaker B: Wait, can I just tell you? This is like a very a tangent, but like my brother wrote in the family thread the other day, like, oh, I've been sleeping on Flyaway Home. Did you ever see Flyaway Home? [00:42:56] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. Go. Continue. Yes. [00:42:59] Speaker B: He then proceeded to talk about like, how hot Jeffrey. Daniel. Jeffrey Daniels was in that movie. So, like, just couldn't get over it, you know? But then, I swear to God, then my brother in law took a picture. He had just gone to the library and. And borrowed a DVD of Flyaway Home. And I was like, I have so. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Many questions right now. Is this for nostalgic value? My goodness. [00:43:29] Speaker B: I don't know. Do they have a DVD player? I don't know. I don't know. It was very weird. [00:43:34] Speaker A: I haven't seen. I feel like I've only seen bits and pieces of Flyaway Home. I know, they're like trying to like help the geese and a paquin. She's a young girl. [00:43:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Anyway, sorry, I totally just like interrupted. [00:43:47] Speaker A: That's fine. We'll always make space for 90s myth. Yeah. There's fights, okay? [00:43:55] Speaker B: Lots of battles. [00:43:56] Speaker A: Lots of battles. But Lysandra is the one that's fighting the most as a shapeshifter. I love her. [00:44:03] Speaker B: I do too. I think she's great. And honestly, some of it might be because she is a shapeshifter. And so she's always in a different form. And we don't have to listen to her be like, I'm a queen, you know what I mean? Like, I'm 20, I'm a queen. She's just like doing the work. [00:44:20] Speaker A: What is the promise for her once this war is over? [00:44:24] Speaker B: Well, I think she's gonna pretend to be Aelin. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Well, right. But I mean, in as Lysandra, what is the promise to her? Because she's not a lord or lady, is she? [00:44:32] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, no, they made her. Aelin made her a lady. Some. Yeah. Like gave her a land, maybe. [00:44:39] Speaker A: That was in last. Last week's source material. [00:44:41] Speaker B: It might have been. It might have been. You missed that. [00:44:44] Speaker A: I missed that. But the entire way they're on this hunt for basically all these word keys. Word keys. That was honestly confuses me. [00:44:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:53] Speaker B: I didn't even, like, pay attention. I saw the word and I was like, I don't know. [00:44:55] Speaker A: I hope they got them. [00:44:56] Speaker B: Yep. [00:44:57] Speaker A: Collect all. [00:44:58] Speaker B: They do. [00:45:00] Speaker A: I'm so sick of it. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:45:01] Speaker A: I'm so sick of it. They make their way down to some sort of bayou. Yeah. And they wade their way through alligators, sea monsters, the like, right to what they think is a lock, but what they find is a mirror. [00:45:14] Speaker B: Okay, so like the marsh. And they went into the marsh. [00:45:16] Speaker A: Yes. [00:45:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Okay. [00:45:17] Speaker B: So they found a mirror and they were like, what the hell is this? But then they brought it. Apparently it was a big mirror, two people carrying it and. Yeah, that's like, then what happened? [00:45:27] Speaker A: So basically then we find that Aelin and Manon, light and dark, need to combine in order to step into the mirror. So let me just set the scene for you. A big battle is waging. Like, the ultimate fight in the book is happening. Meanwhile, our two girls are at the matinee. [00:45:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. They're like, we are the star roles here. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Yeah, they're like a two o' clock showing. [00:45:52] Speaker B: Let's go. [00:45:53] Speaker A: Let's go look at these memories. So they get in the mirror and we finally get all the pieces to the puzzle as to why. [00:45:59] Speaker B: I mean, do we. Because I'm still confused. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Well, we've. We learn that basically Aelin's been cursed. [00:46:07] Speaker B: Essentially. [00:46:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:08] Speaker B: Yeah. She's like, supposed to die. [00:46:09] Speaker A: To die for this. Because Elena made a mistake millennia ago. Right. And she, like, Aelin was very quick to make decisions that she knew nothing about. [00:46:20] Speaker B: Dumb decisions. Yeah. [00:46:21] Speaker A: And basically cursed the entire line of Brannon Brannon. Brandon's entire line. Until Aylin came along to basically kamikaze herself. [00:46:34] Speaker B: Yeah, that was bad. And. [00:46:37] Speaker A: Save the world. [00:46:39] Speaker B: But then she did like a whole. The. The ending was so wild that I don't know, like, who betrayed who. So it seems like Lorcan betrayed them and brought Maeve. Right, and called for Maeve. [00:46:52] Speaker A: Yes. But it also seems like Aelin knew that that was gonna happen. [00:46:56] Speaker B: That's. Yeah. So Aelin knew and so she knew. She. I remember she said, like, before the mirror play, she was like, this isn't part of my plan. Like, this wasn't my plan. Because I think she had come up with. That's one thing I hated about this is like, it would just be like, wait, what? What are you doing? Like, you're a 20 year old queen. [00:47:19] Speaker A: No, I know. That's the thing. I cannot, like, stop belief. I can't, like, I just can't. Like, you know what? [00:47:27] Speaker B: I was laughing to myself today. I was like, okay, these characters that are like, I'm 20 and I'm a queen. It's basically like me being dropped into a battlefield. [00:47:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:40] Speaker B: Can you imagine? Jillian, Kathleen, I go wrap it up. You'd, like, come on your horse and be like, you don't belong here. I don't know what you're doing here. Because I'd be like, don't hurt them. [00:47:52] Speaker A: The thing with her, though, she thinks she's so smart and cunning. And I'm like, you're 19 years old. [00:47:58] Speaker B: I know. I know. I hate it. [00:48:01] Speaker A: I hate how everybody's 18. Except for Manon. [00:48:03] Speaker B: Except for Manon. Yeah. She's the one who should be in. [00:48:06] Speaker A: Charge, and she knows it. [00:48:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. She's like, what the is this girl doing? And I also hate that there are, like, so many queens, so many kings, and so many queens. You know, it's like you turn around, and there's another queen. So I don't know. And then. And then in the end. Did you see that When Aylin was basically like, I could take over the world, you know, she, like, doesn't even. She, like, after she takes over the country or the continent, she's like, I could have a whole empire. [00:48:38] Speaker A: Well, what's interesting, too, is I don't know if you caught up on the conversation between Manon and Dorian, but Madon kept kind of putting, like, little nuggets in Dorian's head of, like, why not you? [00:48:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I know. I love that. [00:48:51] Speaker A: I was like, all right, well, I guess. [00:48:53] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:48:53] Speaker A: That seems like a dangerous game we're playing. [00:48:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. Dorian was a little bit like, yeah. [00:48:58] Speaker A: Also, okay. Not him being into BDSM or oh, my King. [00:49:05] Speaker B: I know. He was like, oh, you're in chains. Oh, it's perfect time. Yeah. Yeah. No, he totally was. [00:49:11] Speaker A: But you know what? [00:49:12] Speaker B: I will say that man had 20 fingers. If you think about. If you consider, like, the invisible hand, you're into that. Oh, my. [00:49:20] Speaker A: You're like, the things. Those. [00:49:26] Speaker B: But, yeah, that was. They were. I feel, like, the most. Just interesting, though. [00:49:29] Speaker A: Yeah, they definitely had a fun dynamic. [00:49:31] Speaker B: They had a fan, but a fun dynamic. But, like, you know who I really loved is Adeon and Lysandra. [00:49:37] Speaker A: I loved him because, like, when she. [00:49:39] Speaker B: Was the sea dragon and she was dying, he goes, what did he say? [00:49:43] Speaker A: I'm gonna marry you. [00:49:44] Speaker B: I'm gonna marry you. [00:49:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:45] Speaker B: It was so cute. Yeah. [00:49:47] Speaker A: He was saying, like, all these men would try and, like, you know, you know, fight for you or do something. He's like, they can't, because I'm gonna marry you or something. [00:49:54] Speaker B: Also, Idiom Biking. [00:49:57] Speaker A: Love him, honestly. Okay, wait. There is a part near the end where somebody steps forward from the Winland crew that arrives, and it feels like there is a recognition between Adien and this man. [00:50:10] Speaker B: Really? Oh. They saw each other and, like. Yeah. Wow. Okay. All right. [00:50:15] Speaker A: So I'm interested to know if there's anything there. [00:50:19] Speaker B: Okay. My other problem. So I need to, like, look up some kind of ancestry.com on this. On these People. I have no idea. [00:50:29] Speaker A: Like kissing cousins just default to that. [00:50:31] Speaker B: Yeah. At this point, they're all fucking cousins and cousins fucking. Basically. So. And there in the end, it was basically like ADN was supposed to marry Aylin or. I mean, it was too much. [00:50:47] Speaker A: It. Okay, so what was gonna happen, to my understanding in the end was they were gonna continue with this farce of ferret Lysandra. What's his name? What's our. What's our man's name with the white hair that you don't like? [00:50:59] Speaker B: Rowan. [00:51:00] Speaker A: Rowan. Why? I want to call him Pharaoh Rowan. Rowan. Pharaoh Rowan was going to remain by all, for all intents and purposes, married or connected to Lysandra dressed as aen. [00:51:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:16] Speaker A: But on the side Lysandra dresses. Aelin would have to be having sex. [00:51:22] Speaker B: Not this. Getting Shakespeare with Aiden. My God. [00:51:25] Speaker A: But what is crazy to me is that there was a question for me about. I'm like, well, at some point, you are going to have to clue Aiden in on this plan because it is weird as he mentions that he would suddenly be having an affair with his cousin behind the back of Rowan. And I'm thinking to myself, she can't shapeshift. [00:51:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:51:44] Speaker A: For bedroom time. [00:51:45] Speaker B: No, I know. I know. That is weird. [00:51:48] Speaker A: They didn't even mention that. Which I'm like, I. You probably didn't mention that because you. Then you'd have to clue Adian in on what's being done, and he would be opposed to it, but like sisters. [00:51:57] Speaker B: But then it was kind of like. That was kind of like, they could be a throuple. Like, that could be a thing. It's still cousins, you know? [00:52:04] Speaker A: Cousins. [00:52:04] Speaker B: They're all cousins. Ew. [00:52:06] Speaker A: They're all cousins. They're all over from that other continent, you know? [00:52:09] Speaker B: So gross. [00:52:11] Speaker A: Like, West Virginia over there. [00:52:12] Speaker B: Here's the thing. Like, she didn't even have to say that, you know what mean? She, like, didn't have to make them cousins. [00:52:18] Speaker A: This is what I'm saying. It doesn't move anything forward for Rowan and Aylin to be related. I don't think it does anything for us. [00:52:27] Speaker B: I think the marriage was illegal, honestly. [00:52:29] Speaker A: It was a. What? [00:52:30] Speaker B: Illegal? This is it for rental in all. [00:52:33] Speaker A: 50 states, I think. [00:52:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in Wendland at least. [00:52:39] Speaker A: We need to Terracotta In Terracotta. For sure. We need to talk about the sex scene on the beach. [00:52:44] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. That is an STI waiting to happen. [00:52:49] Speaker A: If you've never had sex before. Yeah. Just an FYI. [00:52:52] Speaker B: Don't do it in the ocean. [00:52:54] Speaker A: Don't do it full stop. [00:52:55] Speaker B: I meant don't do it full stop. Don't do it on the beach in the ocean. No. [00:53:04] Speaker A: You'Re gonna have to head over to Terracotta to get medicine for that. Bv. [00:53:09] Speaker B: Get some boric acid suppositories specifically. But seriously, though, like, I was thinking about it, I was like, you know, we've talked about before in the podcast, like, sex and water just seems very dry. You know what I mean? [00:53:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:23] Speaker B: And sex and salt water is very dry. I can't even. I don't understand how they did that. [00:53:30] Speaker A: That just seems so awful to me. I mean, we've been in the ocean. You know what it feels like to taste salt water, to feel like that is entering any sort of cavernous situation in my body. [00:53:40] Speaker B: I know, I know. [00:53:41] Speaker A: I love myself too much. [00:53:43] Speaker B: It is both. You're going to get into a cycle of yeast infections and bv. And you won't get out of it because you're going to take antibiotics, and then. Yeah, you won't get out of it. [00:53:53] Speaker A: You're just going to become an ilkin, essentially. That's what it feels like whenever you have one of these. What are the bowels? That's what it feels like. [00:54:03] Speaker B: Very. Oh, my God. You might as well just go pick up your cranberry tablets. You know, Terracotta specifically. [00:54:10] Speaker A: Can't get them in Rift hold. They've blown up the roads. [00:54:15] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:54:16] Speaker A: Gross. I also. Okay, so we talked about Lysandra. I also want to talk a little bit about how emotional I got with the 13. [00:54:24] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I did, too. Astrin specifically. Yeah. [00:54:28] Speaker A: I mean, I love that whole scene of trying to let the 13 go save themselves. [00:54:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:34] Speaker A: And then a Brax. So sweet angel. [00:54:36] Speaker B: I can't even talk about him. [00:54:37] Speaker A: He found him. [00:54:38] Speaker B: I can't even talk about him. I. When that coven flew in, I wrote in my notes, the witches. [00:54:47] Speaker A: Yes. [00:54:48] Speaker B: I mean, I was like, this is Elphaba singing Divine Gravity if I ever saw anything. [00:54:53] Speaker A: And they didn't even balk at the. The war underneath. [00:54:57] Speaker B: They were like, where is Manon? [00:54:59] Speaker A: Yeah. They're like, we got it. Meanwhile, they're still at the matinee. Yep. [00:55:04] Speaker B: Yep. They're still going through the memories out. [00:55:06] Speaker A: Until things were done. [00:55:07] Speaker B: I know, I know. And then they just went like. They didn't even participate in the battle at all. [00:55:12] Speaker A: I mean, it is a little bit suspicious. And Aden was suspicious that Dorian would do that right before they were supposed to go into battle. [00:55:18] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:55:19] Speaker A: Aideen was like. [00:55:21] Speaker B: Oh. Meaning to try to get Manon out. [00:55:23] Speaker A: Well, like, Adien. Well, Adien was a little, like, upset that Dorian would, like, put them in that mirror at such a critical point in time while they were about to go into battle. [00:55:33] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:55:35] Speaker A: Like, gotten, like, physically separated, especially Aen from the group. Cuz remember when they come out of that, they were like, downstream somewhere. [00:55:44] Speaker B: They're in the. On the shore. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's crazy. So we think Dorian might be a. [00:55:51] Speaker A: He still got a little Val in him, maybe. [00:55:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:54] Speaker A: Hate to see it. [00:55:56] Speaker B: He isn't a bdsm. Could have some Val. Yeah. [00:56:01] Speaker A: I mean, would you be shocked? [00:56:02] Speaker B: No, no, no. He does, like. He does seem a little bit, like, just unlike the character that we saw, you know, when. The first book. [00:56:11] Speaker A: I mean, he was. I mean, this sounds bad, but he was like, I don't even like human women. They're too. They break too easily. [00:56:18] Speaker B: I know. [00:56:20] Speaker A: You think about that last girlfriend he had. [00:56:22] Speaker B: He was like, Jesus. [00:56:23] Speaker A: Damn. She. [00:56:27] Speaker B: Guess you got over that quickly, that beheading. [00:56:29] Speaker A: He's like a witch. For me, that's gonna be the one. [00:56:32] Speaker B: But, you know, I didn't like all the blood. The blood play in this. [00:56:40] Speaker A: No, you're not one for blood play. [00:56:41] Speaker B: I'm not one for that. I mean, they just would go to town on each other's necks. Like, Jesus. [00:56:48] Speaker A: There was a lot of gore in this. [00:56:50] Speaker B: There's a lot of gore. Yeah. [00:56:51] Speaker A: Aside from, like, the. The. The sexual bloodletting. Just the sheer carnage. Bloodletting. [00:56:57] Speaker B: The. I mean, the yeast infection. The BV situation was so hard for me. [00:57:02] Speaker A: At one point, I did think that Aen was pregnant. [00:57:05] Speaker B: Me too. Me too. I got so upset. [00:57:06] Speaker A: And then when I tell you I had my phone in my hand because I was about to text you be like, I know. Done with this. [00:57:11] Speaker B: I know, I know. [00:57:12] Speaker A: If a baby's on the way, if there's. [00:57:14] Speaker B: I don't. I don't. I can't do a baby storyline. No, no. [00:57:18] Speaker A: That will be the end of civilization. [00:57:21] Speaker B: Having Rowan's baby. Oh, no, no. [00:57:24] Speaker A: I hate it. [00:57:25] Speaker B: Your cousin's baby. [00:57:28] Speaker A: Probably gonna come out with one eye. The DNA. It's too close. [00:57:36] Speaker B: It's way too close. Anytime you have a mutual aunt, it's too close. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it's gonna. It's gonna come out like one of those things that they're making in the mountains. [00:57:44] Speaker B: It will. It really, like, half Valg. Half something. Yeah, I know. It's like. I think about that. You know, in Game of Thrones, that red woman, when she gives birth to that shadow, man. Do you remember this? [00:58:03] Speaker A: In a way. It's been many years a shadow, man. [00:58:06] Speaker B: I mean, I. Yeah, it was like a. Like, she basically was in labor for a shadow. Yes. For a shadow who ended up killing one of the kings. I don't know. [00:58:18] Speaker A: This is Game of Thrones. [00:58:19] Speaker B: Game of Thrones. Yeah. What season this is really on? Like, the second season, man. This is when who killed. Who was the brother? Renly. [00:58:29] Speaker A: You know, Renly, rest in peace. [00:58:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:58:32] Speaker A: No, I don't remember that. [00:58:34] Speaker B: No. I mean, they basically all die at the end. [00:58:35] Speaker A: Yeah, everybody. [00:58:37] Speaker B: But this was giving a little bit of, like. Like, Game of. And I don't know when Game of Thrones came out, but it was. It was almost like she modeled that, you know, the sort of like, oh, we've got so many kings and queens, and we're all, like, vying for the emperor position. [00:58:54] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. I. One thing I'll also mention about this, too. Did you love when all of the people that owed her a life debt came and showed up at the end? [00:59:03] Speaker B: Oh, that was great. Yeah, yeah, that was. I was kind of like, oh, okay, this is cool. I liked Aylin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:59:09] Speaker A: That. Everybody from Ascending Assassin's Blade showed up and showed out. [00:59:12] Speaker B: When Galen, her cousin, showed up, I got. I didn't get mad at that. [00:59:17] Speaker A: Okay, good for you. I love that. [00:59:19] Speaker B: But I'm, you know, I'm hoping for some Fenris upstaging Rowan. Do you know what I mean? [00:59:26] Speaker A: You want him to break the bond? [00:59:28] Speaker B: I want the. Yeah, I want him to break the bond. I think he likes her. He has a crush on her. [00:59:32] Speaker A: He does have a crush on her. [00:59:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Who knows? [00:59:37] Speaker B: What was the story? Was it that, like, he then was her kind of, like, sex slave, or was it his twin? [00:59:44] Speaker A: His twin, okay. [00:59:46] Speaker B: But I thought it was that, like, his twin was. And then he decided to take the oath, too, so that he could be, like. Like Fenris. [00:59:55] Speaker A: I don't know quite how that works, but it seems like his cousin just stays or his brother stays in the bedroom. [00:59:59] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Like, chained out. [01:00:01] Speaker A: I think he's back in Linlin. Like, whips and chains. Hate to see it. [01:00:06] Speaker B: Hate to see that with Maeve, who's, like, thousands of years old. Yeah, yeah. [01:00:11] Speaker A: Basically. Yeah. I feel really bad for this blood oath that the. That these guys have. [01:00:16] Speaker B: I know. Yeah, I know. [01:00:18] Speaker A: I'm like, why did you ever do this? What's going on? [01:00:20] Speaker B: Doesn't make sense, honestly. But you know what? It was interesting to hear about. You know, you knew the mate thing was coming. You knew it. It was like. [01:00:28] Speaker A: Like, yeah. Could have telegraphed that. I thought we had already established. [01:00:32] Speaker B: Right. It was like I just felt a little tug. My soul felt. [01:00:37] Speaker A: That seems like my worst nightmare. Yeah. [01:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:40] Speaker A: Like a constant gps. [01:00:42] Speaker B: I know. I know that. Absolutely not. [01:00:46] Speaker A: Worst. A man knowing where I'm at.24. No. [01:00:48] Speaker B: I would be like, I want to break free. [01:00:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:54] Speaker B: Oh, my God. No. Can't do it. Especially with somebody like Rowan. I mean, I would plan a kidnapping. Maybe she planned this. [01:01:03] Speaker A: I think she's definitely planned it. [01:01:04] Speaker B: Yeah. I think. Yeah. [01:01:06] Speaker A: Maybe it didn't go according. According to plan, but she's gonna get out of it some kind of way. [01:01:09] Speaker B: For sure. For sure. Yeah. [01:01:11] Speaker A: I don't know how, but I don't either. [01:01:13] Speaker B: And now we have to read about Kael. Here's my wish. This next book is that it's not just about Kaol. Like, somebody else shows up, like Dorian and the witches or something. Cause I don't think I can read a book about only kale. But apparently Michael Stevens said that we. [01:01:31] Speaker A: Have to strap in, sister. I think it's kale time. I can't. It's kale time. Kale time. 24. 7. [01:01:40] Speaker B: No worse. God, he's so boring. [01:01:45] Speaker A: Yeah. He's not my favorite. [01:01:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:47] Speaker A: But this book so far has been my favorite. Again, not working with the full source material. Queen of Shadows. Don't know her. [01:01:52] Speaker B: Honestly, though, I'm not working with the full source material. I'm getting sued. [01:01:59] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I don't know what's going on over there. Yeah. Yeah. If, for whatever reason, we have an episode that week and you're not filling up to it. Right. Because you've been reading through legal documents. [01:02:10] Speaker B: As opposed to the ChatGPT and I have been working into the. [01:02:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. [01:02:15] Speaker B: Oh, my God. It's been really helpful. But then I also think I'm in default because of it, so I fucking hate it. [01:02:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:24] Speaker B: But anyway, any other thoughts about. [01:02:27] Speaker A: No. Really love this book. Yeah. Really fun, great adventure. [01:02:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:31] Speaker A: I love this scenic change to the south. [01:02:34] Speaker B: I did, too. [01:02:35] Speaker A: I love that we got a little bit more backstory as to what's going on. [01:02:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Even though I don't understand it. [01:02:41] Speaker A: No. [01:02:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:41] Speaker A: We saw more characters. We met more characters. [01:02:44] Speaker B: Loved it. Yeah. [01:02:44] Speaker A: I love when a team comes together to fight against. [01:02:48] Speaker B: They all came together. Yep. [01:02:50] Speaker A: Everybody came together. And, yeah. I think it set it up for a really epic story going forward because now everybody's got skin in the game. [01:02:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:58] Speaker A: But I will say, as I was reading that book, I was like. There were moments where I was like, this. The end of this book series is going to devastate me. Okay. [01:03:05] Speaker B: I know. There's gonna be a death. Maybe a couple. Yeah, I know. [01:03:08] Speaker A: There's no way around it. [01:03:09] Speaker B: I know. I mean, I thought at the end that, like, who did I think was gonna die? Well, I thought Fenris was gonna die when he was injured, but then I thought that, like. Like, it'll probably be like, Gavriel or something, you know, and Adien will finally claim him as his father. [01:03:27] Speaker A: But it's gonna be some devastating death. I mean, I'm a little bit like, are we gonna see a death between Aelin and Rowan? [01:03:33] Speaker B: I mean, that's what I thought. I was like, yeah, maybe. [01:03:36] Speaker A: I think both of them because people are crying at the end of this book series. [01:03:40] Speaker B: Really? [01:03:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:40] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. Okay, well, sign her eyes. [01:03:46] Speaker A: You know, Sarah J. Maas can make me cry. [01:03:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, she can. Yeah. [01:03:49] Speaker A: She moves me. [01:03:50] Speaker B: I know, I know. God, Sarah, how'd you do that? [01:03:55] Speaker A: Anything else for you? [01:03:56] Speaker B: No, that's about it. [01:03:57] Speaker A: Okay, you want to play a little game? [01:03:59] Speaker B: Let's play. [01:04:00] Speaker A: Okay, so this week we are gonna play a fun little Cosmo style quiz where I am going to ask you to tell me what member of the cadre is your book boyfriend. [01:04:17] Speaker B: Okay, so the five that you described him before. [01:04:21] Speaker A: Yes. So it's either going to be Adien, Rowan, Fenris, Gavreel, or Lorkhan. Okay, Perfect. Okay. Will you do me the favor of keeping track of your answers? [01:04:31] Speaker B: Yes. [01:04:32] Speaker A: Okay. And then at the end, I'll ask you to give me your tally. [01:04:36] Speaker B: Okay. [01:04:37] Speaker A: Okay. Your ideal date night looks like A, a moonlit flight over pine forest followed by cuddles by the fire. B, sparring for fun, then drinking and laughing until sunrise. Sunrise. C, a peaceful night in reading while someone quietly makes tea nearby. A wild. Okay, next. Next option. A wild, adventurous road trip where chaos is guaranteed. Or a fancy dinner where he orders for you in a deep, sexy voice. [01:05:05] Speaker B: Definitely not the ordering for me. [01:05:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:09] Speaker B: I guess. Maybe 4. [01:05:12] Speaker A: A wild, adventurous road trip where chaos is guaranteed. [01:05:14] Speaker B: Yes. [01:05:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. [01:05:15] Speaker B: Hey, you thought I was three? [01:05:21] Speaker A: I thought maybe a moonlight flight over pine forest followed by cuddly. [01:05:25] Speaker B: Okay, wait, so I didn't really. I wasn't paying attention to that one, so I'll go with one. [01:05:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. What's your vibe? In a relationship? Is It. Confident, intense. Passion. First. Mischievous, Chaotic. Good. Calm, Gentle, steady. Fearless. Playful and teasing. Or loyal, nurturing and a little soft. [01:05:46] Speaker B: God, which one was the like, teasing one? [01:05:53] Speaker A: Let's see. Fearless, playful, teasing. [01:05:58] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't even know. I'll take that one. Which one is that one? [01:06:03] Speaker A: That is B. [01:06:04] Speaker B: What number B? B. I have one. The first one I have number one. The second one I have B. [01:06:10] Speaker A: So for number one, put A. [01:06:12] Speaker B: A. Okay? Okay. [01:06:16] Speaker A: Choose a red flag you'll willingly ignore. Okay. You ready? Jeez. [01:06:20] Speaker B: None. [01:06:21] Speaker A: Lots. Might forget to speak for hours. Broods like it's his full time job. Picks fights for entertainment. Has the humor of a gremlin. Or smirks like he knows every one of your secrets. He probably does. [01:06:37] Speaker B: No, the last one. [01:06:39] Speaker A: Smirks like he knows every. Yeah. Wait. [01:06:40] Speaker B: Yeah, the humor, like a gremlin. Fuck, no. The last one. So what. What letter is that? E. Okay. [01:06:50] Speaker A: What makes you feel most attracted to someone? Is it their strength and swagger? Their devotion? Their humor and unpredictability? Their quiet protectiveness? Or their intensity and power? [01:07:02] Speaker B: I'd probably go with B. What was that the devotion one, right? Or no? [01:07:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Okay. It's devotion. A. So that's A. Oh, that's. I didn't give it to you in order. Okay. [01:07:13] Speaker B: Geez, I'm all over the map on this one. [01:07:17] Speaker A: Pick the aesthetic that calls to you. Is it Soft force Boyfriend? Wear your gym rat? Fae prints? Cozy Library guardian Chaos Sprite with a. With a sword? Or dark, elegant, morally Gray King energy? [01:07:32] Speaker B: A. [01:07:33] Speaker A: It's definitely A. Okay, you're had. [01:07:37] Speaker B: Everybody else is ready for blood play. [01:07:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Your love language is physical touch, quality time, acts of service, laughter or passion. And A. I will burn kingdoms for you. [01:07:50] Speaker B: Energy, probably. D. Laughter. [01:07:52] Speaker A: Okay, laughter. D. You're most likely to fall for someone who would literally die for you. Challenges you, makes you feel safe without trying, keeps life interesting. Or could destroy the world, but chooses to protect you instead. See? [01:08:14] Speaker B: Right? [01:08:14] Speaker A: Makes you think, feel safe. [01:08:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:17] Speaker A: Okay. What do you have? What? Of your responses do you have the most of. [01:08:25] Speaker B: A? [01:08:26] Speaker A: A? [01:08:27] Speaker B: Who am I? Can I guess? Okay. [01:08:29] Speaker A: Go ahead. [01:08:30] Speaker B: It better not be Rowan. [01:08:31] Speaker A: I will. [01:08:33] Speaker B: I swear. [01:08:33] Speaker A: Sorry, sorry. Sorry to interrupt. It's Roman. Wait. So. [01:08:38] Speaker B: Okay, next. I have. I guess I have like 1B, 1D. I swear to God. I should have known with the forest. [01:08:48] Speaker A: It's what you're called to. Oh. Okay. You ready? [01:08:51] Speaker B: Which one's Fenris? [01:08:53] Speaker A: C. [01:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah, what'd you have? Others. [01:08:58] Speaker A: What? What? [01:08:59] Speaker B: I had a D and a B and an E. I had all of them. [01:09:03] Speaker A: Okay. But mostly A's. Okay. Your boyfriend is the brooding, loyal, deeply devoted warrior prince. [01:09:09] Speaker B: No. [01:09:09] Speaker A: He'll wrap you in his wings, make you tea, and then murder your enemies with clinical precision. [01:09:15] Speaker B: Can I choose Abraxos? [01:09:17] Speaker A: You love a partner who is intense on the outside, soft only for you. [01:09:24] Speaker B: God damn it, Cosmo, they're giving you. [01:09:27] Speaker A: That's fate. The. The crone has spoken. The three faces. [01:09:32] Speaker B: The matron, the crone, the maiden. Yeah. [01:09:35] Speaker A: Okay. Well, there you go. [01:09:37] Speaker B: God. [01:09:37] Speaker A: Sail off into the sunset with. [01:09:38] Speaker B: You know, what should I do? Should I do give you a quiz or. [01:09:42] Speaker A: No, Let me see if I can. [01:09:43] Speaker B: Like, just answer each one. [01:09:46] Speaker A: Shuffle. Let me see if I can shuffle this. Hold on. [01:09:48] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:09:49] Speaker A: Let me just get this together. [01:09:52] Speaker B: I'll record the answers. [01:09:54] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [01:09:56] Speaker B: So how do you want your man to show up when you're stressed? Wraps you in a quiet hug and whispers that. That he's. He's not going anywhere? [01:10:03] Speaker A: Hell no. Get the away from me. [01:10:05] Speaker B: The saying, who do I need to fight? C. Brings you food and sits beside you in silence. O. Makes you laugh until you forget why you were upset. That's D. And E. Talks you through it with slow, intense eye contact. [01:10:21] Speaker A: Definitely. D. Blurg. [01:10:22] Speaker B: Yeah. D. I know. Okay, what's your preferred pet name for from him? A. I mean, this is so obvious. A, Fireheart or something soft and personal. B, Trouble. C. Love. D, sweetheart, you absolute menace. E. Your full first name. Said like a threat and a prayer. [01:10:49] Speaker A: Honestly, I don't know. Listen here. [01:10:52] Speaker B: What are you going to choose? [01:10:54] Speaker A: I do like. You're just my. I do like that. But I do also like when my full name is said. For sure about that. [01:11:03] Speaker B: Yeah, there is something about that. I know. We'll unpack that later. Cuz that's like, you know, maybe our parents being like Deidre Ray, you know? [01:11:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, so maybe the name. [01:11:15] Speaker B: Okay, so I put the name. [01:11:16] Speaker A: Okay. [01:11:17] Speaker B: Pick the best bag. Trait. A. Terrifying to everyone except you. B. Will fight a wall if it looks at you wrong. [01:11:25] Speaker A: Not you put holes in the drywall. [01:11:27] Speaker B: C. Emotionally constipated but trying. D. Flirts with danger more than with people. E. Power so intense it makes the room feel smaller. [01:11:36] Speaker A: I don't like any of those. What's D again? [01:11:41] Speaker B: Flirts with danger more than people. [01:11:43] Speaker A: I'd probably say that. Probably the. [01:11:44] Speaker B: That one. Yeah. On a perfect weekend, you want to A, Explore forests or mountains hand in hand, train B, train together, then collapse in a sweaty heap. C. Cook dinner and read side by side. D. Get into harmless trouble in town. E, drink something dark by candlelight and talk about your past. I thought it said talk about pasta. [01:12:07] Speaker A: Talk about pasta. [01:12:08] Speaker B: No, it says about your past. But I want to talk about past. [01:12:11] Speaker A: Yeah, me too. No, I want drinks and talking Deep about our pasts. [01:12:15] Speaker B: Deep about. Okay, E, I think I know. [01:12:19] Speaker A: Okay. [01:12:21] Speaker B: Your type can be summed up as the secretly soft warrior. Grumpy, hot, probably doomed. Warm, warm, thoughtful, surprisingly funny, chaotic. Golden retriever with a sword. Or intense, commanding and smoldering. [01:12:37] Speaker A: I see. Say warm and. [01:12:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:42] Speaker B: Okay, what's the most attractive line he could say? [01:12:45] Speaker A: Oh, my God, here we go. [01:12:47] Speaker B: A. Your battles are mine now. B. [01:12:51] Speaker A: Move. [01:12:52] Speaker B: I said I've got this. C. You don't ever have to ask. I'm already here. D. This is a terrible idea. Let's do it. E. I would burn the world before I ever lost you. [01:13:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I'd be like, this is too much. C. What's C? [01:13:11] Speaker B: You see, I don't. You don't ever have to ask. I'm already here. [01:13:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Which green flag? This is easier than mine. Which green flag makes you weak? A. Protects you without smoldering you or smothering you. B. Will always take your side, even when you're dramatic. Circumstances. Notices the tiny things about you. D. Keeps life exciting without being reckless. And E has passion that borders on worship. [01:13:40] Speaker A: No. Read A and C to me. [01:13:42] Speaker B: Again. Protects you without smothering you or you're gonna say notices the tiny things about you. [01:13:48] Speaker A: I think it's notices the tiny things. [01:13:50] Speaker B: Oh, I think we have our winner. [01:13:55] Speaker A: I gave a lot of different responses. I feel like you did. [01:13:57] Speaker B: You did. Well, actually not. No, I gave more. You gave three Cs, two Ds and two Es. So three Cs you're gonna go with? Go for real? Which I'm not mad at Daddy. Yeah, your boyfriend is. The gentle, grounding, heartbreak. Help. Seriously, I need to take a little bit of acting classes at this point. Gentle, grounding, heartbreakingly patient warrior. You crave warmth, stability, and someone who makes you feel safe just by breathing. [01:14:27] Speaker A: Okay, that's too much. [01:14:29] Speaker B: And then mostly Ds. God damn it. Why did I get Rowan? It's your fate. So the second one would be Fenris. Who? I didn't know his last name was Moonbeam. [01:14:40] Speaker A: Sweet. [01:14:42] Speaker B: Your match is a chaotic, charming, sunbeam. And Fae form troublemaker. [01:14:47] Speaker A: I like that, too. [01:14:48] Speaker B: Yeah. E is Adon. Your boyfriend is the bold, beautiful, magnetic general who burns with intensity. No, not my favorite. He's passionate, protective, and absolutely chosen by the gods level devoted. No, thank you. And Chachi says if you want, I can also make a spicy edition, a Princess Aesthetic edition, or a Seelie Unseelie Court themed version. [01:15:16] Speaker A: Next time we'll do a spicy version. [01:15:18] Speaker B: What? Oh, yeah, let's do it. [01:15:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:20] Speaker B: It'll probably take some direct quotes from the book. [01:15:22] Speaker A: That would be unhinged. [01:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. So you're Gavril and I am Rowan. [01:15:29] Speaker A: That's your cousin. Girl. That's your cousin. Cousin Maury. Exactly. [01:15:36] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [01:15:37] Speaker A: Trash. [01:15:38] Speaker B: I think that's it. [01:15:39] Speaker A: I think that's it. [01:15:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:40] Speaker A: Well, thank you so much for listening as always. If you're feeling the vibe, subscribe five rate five and all way. And also thank you to Christian Borky who is here. [01:15:55] Speaker B: Our new guest sound. [01:15:56] Speaker A: Yeah, our guest witch. Love that. Welcome. [01:16:00] Speaker B: Welcome. [01:16:02] Speaker A: And Lincoln Lodge. [01:16:04] Speaker B: Lincoln Lodge in Logan Square, Illinois. [01:16:06] Speaker A: Logan Square, Illinois. Chicago. Chicago, Illinois institution. [01:16:10] Speaker B: It is really. [01:16:12] Speaker A: All right, well, see you guys next time. [01:16:14] Speaker B: Bye. Bye. Bye.