A Girl's Gotta Eat

Episode 1 May 09, 2026 01:18:16
A Girl's Gotta Eat
Spellbound
A Girl's Gotta Eat

May 09 2026 | 01:18:16

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This week on Spellbound, Deidre and Gillian start an all new season and dive into the first five chapters of Sarah J. Maas's A Court of Thorns and Roses. Along the way, they discuss Deidre starring as the bride in a wedding shoot opposite an objectively beautiful gay man, the shocking long-term appreciation value of Shawn Hatosy, and Gillian provides an update on her ongoing legal (settlement amount undisclosed due to NDA). They wrap up with a game of “Casting Couch,” where they cast the characters of ACOTAR as characters from The Pitt.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Welcome to Spellbound, where we serve up a healthy dose of romance, pop culture, and just a little millennial melee for good measure. I'm Deidre. [00:00:13] Speaker B: And I'm Jillian. [00:00:15] Speaker A: Welcome. [00:00:16] Speaker B: How you doing? [00:00:16] Speaker A: It's been a minute. [00:00:17] Speaker B: It has been a minute. At least until we've. And since we've published, we've been in the booth, we've been in the movie. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Can't say we like what we've been cooking up. [00:00:26] Speaker B: We're leaving it on the editing. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Yeah. The cutting floor. It's there. How have you been? [00:00:32] Speaker B: Good. I mean, good. Yeah. Just trying to deal with this weather and Chicago doesn't want us to be [00:00:39] Speaker A: great, I gotta tell you. [00:00:41] Speaker B: No, it doesn't. We're in the. It's some. We're in some fool spring right now. I. You know what, though? Like, I'm keeping hope alive. I think it's been great to have, like. Oh, any day now might be, like, a beautiful surprise. [00:00:56] Speaker A: Yeah, any day might. Any day now. You know, we're gonna go from this into just the bowels of hell at the end of. Or into May, I should say. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:05] Speaker A: And then we're just off to the [00:01:06] Speaker B: races, and then the plant die, planet dies. So, yeah. [00:01:11] Speaker A: So long, farewell. [00:01:13] Speaker B: We build our bunkers. [00:01:15] Speaker A: I'm just gonna jump off a building. Honestly, I think, you know, I think it's so funny every time we mention Mikey on this podcast, it's a little bit of, like, Where's Waldo? Like, spotting. Like, when are they gonna mention Mikey? Mikey's always like, I'm just gonna just jump full blast into the nuclear blast. [00:01:31] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:01:32] Speaker A: I'm just gonna jump straight into it. [00:01:33] Speaker B: What an end. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Which is. I'm like, I get that at this point. I get it. [00:01:38] Speaker B: Fair enough. [00:01:39] Speaker A: Why not? Like, what kind of world are we gonna have? You know? I don't wanna stick around and build up a new world order. [00:01:44] Speaker B: I know. No. Hell no. Hell no. [00:01:46] Speaker A: If it's not matriarchal, [00:01:49] Speaker B: no. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Where will we be? [00:01:52] Speaker B: Where will our sisters be? [00:01:55] Speaker A: Can you imagine going through all of that and then being like, I need a boyfriend? Yeah. [00:02:02] Speaker B: At that point, it's not just having a boyfriend is embarrassing. It's dangerous. [00:02:06] Speaker A: Dangerous sister. Like, please get it together. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Shameful. [00:02:10] Speaker A: I have to say, for. You know. Again, Jillian laughs. Because I say the three people listening to this podcast, for the folks listening to this podcast, if you hear a little crinkle, just please give us a little grace. We are women who are trying. We are women in stem. Christian has left us. He's high and Dry. As it happens, I'm here behind the booth. I have no business being back here. [00:02:35] Speaker B: She's checking the level. [00:02:36] Speaker A: My job is largely administrative. During the day, I push papers. He's got me back here, like, running mics. There's Jane, Lights going off. I don't know what they mean. It can be a bomb. Who knows? I mean, who knows what this is going to sound like? It's our best. It's. It's our best. [00:02:55] Speaker B: We're doing our best. Christian went on a Euro trip and left us, and now Deidre's just doing a little dj. [00:03:02] Speaker A: I mean, isn't it just like a man to leave me in my moment of need? [00:03:06] Speaker B: I know, I know. We're just left in the lurch. [00:03:09] Speaker A: He's not breaking any cycles. [00:03:10] Speaker B: Go. I know. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Yet another man disappointing me. But, you know. You know, if you hear a little crackle, you hear a little pop, that. Ignore it. [00:03:21] Speaker B: Little snap. What about a snap? [00:03:23] Speaker A: Snap, crackle, pop. Just ignore it. Mind your business and just enjoy the rest. [00:03:29] Speaker B: Just keep listening. [00:03:30] Speaker A: Yes, yes. But other than that, how's life been? You were mentioning before we went live that you paid a big check today. Money bags McGee over here. [00:03:41] Speaker B: Here's the problem, you know, I never actually know if I'm being fleeced at the mechanic. I'd go to. [00:03:48] Speaker A: You do think that you're being fleeced at literally every establishment. We will go to a local restaurant. You're like, I think I'm being fleeced on these hummus chips. [00:03:58] Speaker B: I think I am. Although that's a good point, though. Am I actually being. See me coming in, and they're like, [00:04:04] Speaker A: okay, we're gonna get her. [00:04:06] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure these guys do, too. But, like, the problem is I'm under warranty for so many parts. You know what I mean? They. They're like, even two parts today, they were like, you know, we see you at those change in 2023. And we were like, oh, maybe you're under warranty. Nope. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Oh, damn. [00:04:22] Speaker B: They just went out. Yeah, just. And I was like, okay. [00:04:25] Speaker A: Yesterday. [00:04:26] Speaker B: And I don't fucking know what they're talking about. You know, I'm sitting there like, googling engine, whatever. [00:04:31] Speaker A: And you have no business doing that. [00:04:33] Speaker B: I mean, I was like, really? Like, I was like, okay. Oh, my God. What's it gonna be? What's gonna be? And then I get to the point where I was like, I don't. Okay, do it. What time can I pick it up? I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. [00:04:44] Speaker A: Who cares? Impound me if you need to. I don't know. I'll get it at some point. [00:04:50] Speaker B: But I mean, like, I have like a max because literally every spring I spend $2,000 on this car. [00:04:56] Speaker A: You spent a lot of money on this car this spring because you just, you know, you just got it out of a legal. Legal battle. [00:05:03] Speaker B: Christ. I did. Yeah. Set. I know. She was set free. She didn't have to go to the found. [00:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah. They wanted her. They were like, we're on you. That 2020 collision. Yeah, that is true. [00:05:16] Speaker B: I spent some money on parking tickets, too. I mean, April has been. [00:05:20] Speaker A: The city of Chicago loves to see you coming. That impound lot over there off California, they love to see you. Yeah. [00:05:31] Speaker B: Anyway, so that's my April. How have you been? [00:05:33] Speaker A: I've been doing well. What's been going on over in my world? You know, I'll get to this in the. Hear, hear. You hear. You. My latest cultural obsession. But, yeah, things have been going well. Work is going well. A couple projects have come falling off my plate. So, you know, we always love to see that. But, you know, you get rid of one thing, here comes another thing coming. Just hitting you left and right. [00:05:54] Speaker B: Whack them all. [00:05:55] Speaker A: Exactly. But other than that, good. I, you know, I. I support the creative community. Specifically if the artists are gay men, of course. And I was recently. You're well aware of this. I'm telling the audience about this for the first time. They'll see. They'll see the. Yeah, yeah. Courtney, you're aware as well. [00:06:20] Speaker B: As Courtney. [00:06:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Courtney's holding it down for us. She is supporting. So a recently made friend. Love him. Joey, also known by many other people as jb. That's news to me. I guess in professional settings, he goes by jb. His mama calls him Joey. I'm calling him Joy. That's basically for sure. [00:06:40] Speaker B: That's his given name. [00:06:42] Speaker A: You introduce yourself to me as Joey. That's just kind of where I am. [00:06:45] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:06:45] Speaker A: That's just where I am. Anyway, he is very creative in his pursuits. He does have, you know, a regular job like us regular degular folks. Right, right. But he is super creative. I mean, you've met him. He's great. Yeah, you can tell. But anyway, he mentioned to me when we met about a year ago that there's some opportunities that he has from a photography standpoint where he'd love to work with me just to stand in as a model. Happy to help. You know what I mean? [00:07:14] Speaker B: I've. [00:07:14] Speaker A: I've done it for A couple friends before, if you ever shopped at a online website called Sustain, I. Right as they launched, I was on front page of that website. Really, really selling, you know, goods that are good for the planet. [00:07:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:07:33] Speaker A: Really close to my heart. [00:07:34] Speaker B: Selling kindness. [00:07:35] Speaker A: Love that. However, in this photo shoot, Joey had invited me to be a bride, [00:07:42] Speaker B: to [00:07:42] Speaker A: be coupled with a groom of his choosing for a. Just sort of a wedding shoot for Chicago Style magazine. And it was fantastic. It's a competition multiple. There's four different teams. Multiple wedding vendors come together, and basically they create sort of a wedding scape of their own sort of design. So Joey was sort of the producer of his team, so he created, like, the whole vision for what they were gonna do. Okay. So, yeah, the Chicago Style magazine, I think, assigns them the setting, like, or where need to do the shoot, and they put the teams together. So nobody has a say in who. What vendors they're going to work with. You're just assigned. [00:08:20] Speaker B: So wait, so you're. It's a 1 out of 4 chance you'll be in the magazine? [00:08:23] Speaker A: No. So all the pic. So here's the thing. I won't be in the magazine. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:08:27] Speaker A: Okay, so the wedding skate pictures will be in the magazine, but the vendors, there's like a florist, There is a stationary. You know, there's a photography. There's all these, you know. Yeah. There's like catering or like, in this sense, it was like a bakery. [00:08:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:42] Speaker A: And they're basically just creating real fantasy for people that are interested. So basically, these photographs are going to go in the Chicago Style magazine in July. That's the plan. And then people will vote on who, what wedding scape they think is the best. [00:08:56] Speaker B: Okay. [00:08:56] Speaker A: So Joey did a really great job of, like, creating, like, a vision board, a mood board. Everybody executed fantastically. Just the color palette was wonderful. The floor, the floral arrangements. So these pictures will go in the magazine and people vote on them. The. The vendors, however, were like, you know, this is a really great opportunity for us to add some more material to our portfolios, especially from a wedding perspective. We really need to sell the whole wedding vision. So we need a bride and groom. So Joey reached into his DEI bag. [00:09:27] Speaker B: So you apply? Yeah. [00:09:31] Speaker A: You're at myself. He said, we're having representation in here, baby. I don't know. So he grabbed myself. [00:09:38] Speaker B: It was a little toolkit. [00:09:39] Speaker A: Yeah, he grabbed myself. And he grabbed a very nice gentleman by the name of CJ who plays my groom. And we did a wedding shoot yesterday, and what a joy. [00:09:52] Speaker B: I'm so excited to be. [00:09:53] Speaker A: To be held and. And caressed, even in a fake way, by one of the most beautiful man I've ever seen in my life. I have no complaints. Can't wait to see how these photos turn out. [00:10:03] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:10:04] Speaker A: We were both. You know, it's so funny. I mean, he's a beautiful man. He also. I'm the same way. I don't take selfies. Like, I'm just not. I don't spend a lot of time looking at myself in the mirror. I don't know what my angles are. You know, you see some people who are like, I know how to smize. I know how to do all these things. Me and C.J. we were talking about how we don't like them or we don't do that. And so we were both like. The photography was like, oh, this looks so good. This looks so good. But we weren't like, every now and again, they would show us a picture and we'd agree. But, like, we largely don't know how these pictures are turning. Gonna turn out. [00:10:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:37] Speaker A: So it's gonna be a surprise. We hope for the best, but really cute shoot. You know, we had to really create intimacy between he and I. And there was. There were moments where the photographer was like, okay, cj, I want you to lean into Deidre's ear and, like, just whisper what you had for breakfast this morning. So he's like, I had granola, I think, some berries, a little yogurt. And then, like, when we broke, I was like a parfait. I'd love to see it. At one point, he had to give me gentle kisses up my neckline. And he was like, you smell delicious. You smell wonderful. Thank you, thank you, thank you, CJ. [00:11:15] Speaker B: I love it. You're like, oh, Tuesday afternoon at 5:00'. Clock. Thank you so much. [00:11:20] Speaker A: At the Chicago Firehouse Restaurant. Getting. Getting caressed by this beautiful man. Yeah. We had to put our foreheads together, our noses together. I mean, it was just a full vision. I was like, thank you for maybe the most intimacy I've had since 2022. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Beautiful. Beautiful. The only one you want. Like, do you want to be married to a gay man? [00:11:40] Speaker A: So, you know, it's crazy because to have these things, it's like, you know, if you were to be doing these things with a gay man or, I'm sorry, straight man, you go, what are we? But with cj, I was like, look at it. We need a SAG Aftra car. [00:11:56] Speaker B: I know where this is going, and I'm okay with it. [00:11:59] Speaker A: You don't have to call me after this. [00:12:01] Speaker B: There's no anxiety. [00:12:02] Speaker A: No. [00:12:02] Speaker B: Like, I don't know. [00:12:04] Speaker A: No. [00:12:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:05] Speaker A: I'm like, I'll see you next week. [00:12:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:06] Speaker A: Drink soon. [00:12:08] Speaker B: Can I have your contact information? [00:12:10] Speaker A: We'll get together, no problem with that. So, yeah, it was a really good time. I'm excited to see how the pictures turn out. So, yeah, really good time with that one. [00:12:19] Speaker B: Joey is just getting on his Jennifer. Jennifer Lopez on In the Wedding Planner. [00:12:24] Speaker A: He just such a beautiful spirit, that one. I find him so fascinating. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:12:30] Speaker A: He was a middle school teacher at one point. He was deep in rural Appalachia. [00:12:35] Speaker B: No. [00:12:35] Speaker A: And then he was like, I gotta get up the hell up out of here. We went to college out there at like Ohio University. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:41] Speaker A: Okay. [00:12:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:42] Speaker A: And you know, then he just kind of found his way. [00:12:45] Speaker B: I love it. What? Yeah, a random journey. [00:12:48] Speaker A: I love it. Just one of the most interesting things. He just moved down to the West Loop so I hope he's having a great time in that journey as well. [00:12:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a. That's a specific journey too. [00:12:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I even heading down to the South Loop yesterday to go to the Chicago Firehouse Restaurant. I was like, I really gotta explore more of this. This grand, large, sprawling city. [00:13:09] Speaker B: Oh, that. [00:13:10] Speaker A: There's so much down there. Yeah, even so much. Even on the way back I was like, I took. I didn't even take the highway. I just kind of took like, you know, little city streets and whatever. Super cute. I'm like, I gotta get out more. [00:13:21] Speaker B: I mean, I know you get like, so like, oh, I love my neighborhood, I love my apartment. You know. And then you're like, oh, wait, there's all this stuff out here. [00:13:29] Speaker A: I gotta, I gotta do it. [00:13:30] Speaker B: Crazy. [00:13:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So, yeah, that's pretty much what's been going on. That's the highlight of my. [00:13:35] Speaker B: There you go. [00:13:36] Speaker A: Of my week. [00:13:36] Speaker B: That's amazing. [00:13:37] Speaker A: I feel like I'm missing something. What did I do last weekend? Anything. [00:13:41] Speaker B: You went to a concert. [00:13:42] Speaker A: I did. I went to Alvin Ailey, the dance company with Nathan. You know, culture. Beautiful man, yet again. [00:13:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:13:52] Speaker A: I mean, I am really living every girl's dream. [00:13:54] Speaker B: You really are. You really are. [00:13:57] Speaker A: Seven year old me living. I mean, they truly just bless my life. [00:14:01] Speaker B: I know. [00:14:02] Speaker A: I mean, I am. [00:14:03] Speaker B: I feel blessed all the time. [00:14:05] Speaker A: I'm. I'm infinitely a better person because of the fact that they choose to be friends with me. I'm blessed. I mean, truly, truly blessed. [00:14:12] Speaker B: Like, she's tearing up. Seriously, like, she's. [00:14:14] Speaker A: I'm Overwhelmed by it. Honestly. Truly. That's not sarcasm. I mean, they truly are just the light of my life. So. Yeah, I know what my hearing. Here he is. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah, we get into it a little bit. [00:14:28] Speaker A: I have fully succumbed. [00:14:29] Speaker B: I know you're. [00:14:30] Speaker A: To the Sean Hadassee hysteria fever. What is going on? [00:14:36] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it's. So we've talked about this before because, like, I have known him for a long time. [00:14:42] Speaker A: Right. Also, I like. [00:14:46] Speaker B: I mean, I. Believe me, I get it. And though it's the voice, mostly for me, but I'm just like. I'm. I'm a little surprised by how, you know, wild. It's. [00:14:57] Speaker A: He was made to look like this. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Yes. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Like, honest to God, yes. I mean, I, you know, we've talked about. I'm like, he's an appreciating asset because like you, I mean, I'm young enough, but old enough to. To. To have remembered him in those early, you know, days of like the faculty and like other, you know, kind of shows or movies in the 90s. [00:15:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:19] Speaker A: He's always been one of those actors where every time I see him over the years, I'm like, oh, that guy. [00:15:23] Speaker B: Yes. [00:15:24] Speaker A: You know. You know who he is? Yeah. You're like, I know him. [00:15:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:27] Speaker A: He has right now this whole look. He's into like the weathered and like the gray, curly, you know. You know how I feel about a white man with a curl pattern and a good head of hair. [00:15:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:15:42] Speaker A: I'm gonna go feral every time. [00:15:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. And it sounds like you have, huh? [00:15:48] Speaker A: I mean, I'm changed. And so now, you know, I'm getting a change for the better. So now I'm like, episode. I think I'm on episode, like nine of season one of. I think of the pit, baby. I'm trying to get back to the night shift. Okay. I'm clawing my way back to him. Clock in. I want him to clock in. I'm also very. Because here's the thing. I'm obsessed. What got me obsessed. [00:16:14] Speaker B: What. [00:16:14] Speaker A: What clued me in was the girls sharing the clip of him being like, I'll pay for it. [00:16:18] Speaker B: I'll pay for it. [00:16:18] Speaker A: And, you know, I don't. Yeah. And you know, I don't have a good girl kink. You know, I don't have a sugar daddy king. I don't really care about any of those things, but it was really sort of about a really compassionate and able bodied and smart, a capable man seeing a need and Meeting the need. [00:16:45] Speaker B: Just do it right away. [00:16:47] Speaker A: I'm like, that's my man. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:48] Speaker A: This is my vision. This is my dream. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:16:51] Speaker A: He's just good. Salt and pepper enough that I'm like, this is finger licking good. [00:16:54] Speaker B: I know. [00:16:55] Speaker A: I will be watching every episode. Also, as I started to explore the Sean Hennessy fandom, it coincided with him releasing two very erotic episodes on Quinn. [00:17:08] Speaker B: I have not listened yet. I. I need to. [00:17:10] Speaker A: I signed up for a year subscript off. Off the promise of those two episodes alone. And I told myself, I was like, it would be very unhealthy for you to sit up in this condo and listen to these episodes alone. You need to. You need to, like, be distracted while you're listening to them. So I was walking Birdie both times. I was listening to those episodes. People coming up to Birdie and like, oh, hi, sweetheart. In my ear, Sean haddish. He's like, good girl. Move your panties to the side. And I'm going, okay, thank you so much. We'll see y' all soon. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Bye. Bye. [00:17:38] Speaker A: You know. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Oh, my God. That's like a start of a show or something. That is so funny. [00:17:42] Speaker A: You just could not. I'm like, I. He's too powerful for me to be sitting in my room, fully focused on the things that he is saying. [00:17:48] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:17:49] Speaker A: But there's been like, a whole, like, you know, marketing media situation around it that I'm like, I love this for him. [00:17:56] Speaker B: I do, too. I do, too. He deserves it. [00:17:59] Speaker A: He's a good actor. [00:18:00] Speaker B: He's a good actor. I mean, I. We've talked about this before. Like, Southland is, like. It's one of my favorite, like, detective shows. Very gritty, very good. And he was so good at it. [00:18:11] Speaker A: He's so good in it. He. He's just a. I mean, I hate. He's this. He's one of those examples of men just getting better with time. Wow. I mean, he's never looked so good. He looks great. [00:18:24] Speaker B: It looks amazing. [00:18:25] Speaker A: I mean, he's hot as. [00:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. I know. Okay. So this, like, really is hilarious to [00:18:32] Speaker A: me, though, because he didn't look this good younger. [00:18:34] Speaker B: He didn't look this good younger. But he also, like. Like, I. I do think he's like, he's super hot, but I'm like, he's not like, whatever his name is. David Corn Sweat. [00:18:51] Speaker A: No, but. But it's a different hot. Yeah. [00:18:54] Speaker B: Okay, so. But it was just. It's just so funny to me because, like, growing up within the, like, sort of, like, people's Sexiest man alive. Like, he's not like a classic, you know, alive. Which I do, I appreciate. And yeah, the millennials were getting older too. [00:19:09] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I mean, it is a certain David Corn SW in his own sort of lane, I think that Sean had. Ay. Whatever is going on right now, this isn't a totally different like, realm. And it is, it is hot in its own way. And I'm like, I. This. Yes. Whatever this is. Keep more of this speechless. He like passed the threshold of like 49 and it was like. [00:19:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:37] Speaker A: Taken off like a rock. [00:19:38] Speaker B: For sure. For sure. Literally. Yeah, yeah. It's. It's kind of crazy. Yeah. We were talking about that. It's like how big of a difference there is. 49 to 50. And then you're like, oh, you're gentleman now. [00:19:48] Speaker A: Oh, you're. Yeah, right. You're a man of a certain age man now. But the fandom is so crazy. There's all these girls who are young as hell that are like, you know, salivating over him and I'm like, get the. Out of my way. You haven't paid your dues. You don't get to show up here. Just get him like this. It's me watching him in 1998. The. The faculty. I deserve this moment. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Seriously. We worked hard. [00:20:13] Speaker A: I worked time as. [00:20:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it's great. [00:20:17] Speaker A: I love to see him. I love to see Sean or not Sean. Josh Hartnett getting older. Co workers in the faculty. [00:20:26] Speaker B: I don't think I saw the faculty. Okay. [00:20:28] Speaker A: I've seen bits and pieces, especially when I was little because it was like, you know, it came out when I was like 11. 10 or 11. And I'm like, I. You know, this might be too much for me. Right. Elijah Wood, isn't it? [00:20:39] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. He's was big back then. [00:20:41] Speaker A: He was big back then. That's somebody who has not aged, has he? Well, I mean, he's gotten older, but like, he still largely looks the same. [00:20:48] Speaker B: That's crazy to me. [00:20:49] Speaker A: I think it's cuz he's so little. [00:20:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:20:52] Speaker A: You know what I mean? [00:20:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:20:53] Speaker A: You know, they don't age that much. They don't age that much. I don't know what to tell you. They, they, they stay pretty preserved and that's. [00:21:07] Speaker B: I think it's because he's just so little. [00:21:09] Speaker A: He's so little. I mean, he's got such. He's just got one of those like youthful little faces, you know? [00:21:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:16] Speaker A: Not Sean Odyssey, though Sean had to see is weathered and worn in the Best way somebody. I told you somebody says that his voice sounds like brush suede. [00:21:24] Speaker B: It's really. He really does. Like camel suede. Yeah, yeah. Camel colored suede. [00:21:28] Speaker A: Yeah. There's like a crackle to it. You know what I mean? Love that. For me. [00:21:33] Speaker B: A little smoky. [00:21:33] Speaker A: A little smoky. [00:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Love that. Yeah. But, yeah, I'm gonna keep devouring as much pit Sean Hennessy Night Shift material that I can. [00:21:45] Speaker B: Honestly, they should come out with a spin off of the Night Shift. [00:21:49] Speaker A: This show, first of all. Also, I'm getting deeply into the pit, and I love that show. It's like crap. [00:21:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, it. Yeah, it's really good. Good. Yeah. And Noah, I mean, you just like. You're like, okay, I gotta keep watching. I gotta keep watching. But then, for me, it was a lot for me to be there. [00:22:05] Speaker A: Were. [00:22:05] Speaker B: I was actually gonna ask you, like, after you see the whole series or the whole two seasons, tell me which one. Which, like, patient storylines you think affected me the most? [00:22:15] Speaker A: Yeah, you definitely didn't like the little girl drowning. [00:22:18] Speaker B: I can't even think. I can't even. [00:22:20] Speaker A: You did not like that at all. I watched that last night. [00:22:23] Speaker B: I cannot. [00:22:23] Speaker A: No, you did not like that. You were powered up by the girl who wanted an abort teenager. Real powered up. [00:22:32] Speaker B: Get it to her. I don't care. [00:22:33] Speaker A: You were real powered up by that. Yeah. You were really affected by the poor boy who overdosed, unfortunately, on fentanyl. Oh, my God, that was so sad. And you are really. I mean, I don't really know what comes of this, but you're really worked up on the teenage boy who has a manifesto. And I know I. I've seen. I've heard, unfortunately, different things that kind of happen at the end of the season. I think know you. He's. He's on the other end of it. I gotta tell you. I do not. Who is the little teenage boy who came to the hospital to get those concert tickets from Robbie? I'm never gonna see him again. I already know. I already know. I mean, as soon as he came in, there was like. [00:23:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:14] Speaker A: Hey, guys. What's up? Just here to get some concerts. I said, so long farewell. So long farewell. [00:23:21] Speaker B: Okay. That's your goodbye scene. Yeah. [00:23:23] Speaker A: I'm like, I'm never gonna see him again. There's gonna be something that happens at this concert. [00:23:27] Speaker B: I know. I know. [00:23:28] Speaker A: I can see it. I. I see it. [00:23:30] Speaker B: I'm telling you that. [00:23:31] Speaker A: Oh, and the. The. The miscarriage. [00:23:36] Speaker B: When was the. What was the miscarriage? [00:23:38] Speaker A: Collins. [00:23:39] Speaker B: She went, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:23:41] Speaker A: Whose Baby. Is that. Is it Robbie's? [00:23:45] Speaker B: No, it's just like. Just like, sperm donor, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker A: I'm also like, where is hr? [00:23:50] Speaker B: Yeah, seriously, I totally forgot she was in that. Okay. Yeah. Because she. Then apparently her. Whatever that actor is, is kind of like a wild. Like, there's a. She's like a religious fanatic. Really? [00:24:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, you know. Okay. Love her. But I was also gonna say, I. Sometimes the acting with her is like. Yeah, there's like a. There's like a. I don't know. There's like a delayedness. [00:24:17] Speaker B: Like a robotic. [00:24:18] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I. My understanding is that she's, like, not in the set in the. The second season. She's, like, off in Portland raising some kids somewhere or something. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So I think that's what. Yeah. But she. But part of me kind of. [00:24:31] Speaker A: What? [00:24:31] Speaker B: Because if you read about her, she's got some kind of crazy ideas. Yeah. [00:24:35] Speaker A: So she's British. [00:24:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. So part. Part of me wonders if that was, like, maybe part of the decision, because I think she said certain things that. I don't know if it was. Maybe it was on set. Maybe it just is like, okay, this is not in line with our values as a show. And so. [00:24:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's tough. You know who I love on that show? Dana. [00:24:59] Speaker B: I love a Dana. I love Dana. When she pulls her pants up, she is ready. [00:25:04] Speaker A: When I. I'm like, if I worked here, I wouldn't even be looking at that board. I'd be over there just chitchat, chatting with Dana. [00:25:10] Speaker B: I mean, that's one thing that's been so fun. Is that, like, the nurses station is where it's at? Like, it is. That just reminds me so much of, like. Yeah. Who are the nurses that. I was so excited. They're on. They were on shift. Like, we're gonna. We're gonna ch. The. In the second season, there's a. [00:25:28] Speaker A: Like a front. [00:25:29] Speaker B: Like a receptionist person. [00:25:30] Speaker A: Okay. [00:25:31] Speaker B: And I remember, like, the. When I was working at the hospital, she was my favorite, and I would come out and just do a comedy set for her. Like, it was just the best. [00:25:41] Speaker A: I mean, God bless our. Our administrative professionals, honestly. [00:25:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:46] Speaker A: And the nurses and the. Everybody who's in a position of. They're the real seats of power. [00:25:50] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. For sure. And. [00:25:52] Speaker A: Or the. [00:25:53] Speaker B: They should be. You know, they should be getting their. [00:25:55] Speaker A: Their incredible gatekeepers. [00:25:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:57] Speaker A: I mean, even, you know, in my job, I'm like, you gotta make good relationships with the executive assistants and the professional assistants and whoever is like, really sort of the. The gatekeepers of schedules and materials and whatever because you get on their bad side. You're not getting. You're not getting done. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah, no, not at all. [00:26:18] Speaker A: God bless us. There's too much trauma going on in Pittsburgh. I said, is this. Is there this much happening in metropolitan Pittsburgh? [00:26:27] Speaker B: I know. And the answer is, I don't think so. [00:26:29] Speaker A: God. I'm like, what's going on? But, yeah, I'll continue to keep you posted on my journey. I'll continue to keep, you know, our core listeners here posted on our journey as well. Love that. And then other than that, you know, that's. That's. I. I've really been buried under that and lots of sexy tik toks of Dr. Jack Abbott. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Dr. Jack Abbott. Yeah, he is. Oh, God. I know, I know. It doesn't make sense. [00:26:57] Speaker A: He's so funny. [00:26:58] Speaker B: I know. I know. [00:26:59] Speaker A: It's a charisma. [00:27:00] Speaker B: It's a charisma. [00:27:01] Speaker A: It's the charisma owning the room. [00:27:05] Speaker B: Like, just like, everybody's, like, waiting for him to make a joke. You know, He. They're just like, oh, okay. Yeah. [00:27:11] Speaker A: And he just stands there like, it's the biggest dick energy I've ever seen. [00:27:14] Speaker B: Yeah, right. No, I know. [00:27:15] Speaker A: He's not worried. There's. [00:27:17] Speaker B: He's like. [00:27:18] Speaker A: It's fun. [00:27:19] Speaker B: And he's, like, warm, too. [00:27:21] Speaker A: Yes. [00:27:21] Speaker B: So it's not like he's like a cold. Like, you know, the big dick energy kind of like. [00:27:27] Speaker A: No, it's. It's warm. It's warm. Big dick energy. The best kind of energy. We got a blood flow. No. You know what this reminds me of? A few years, several years ago, I was living in. I just, you know, I was fairly new in my time in Columbus, and I was eating dinner one night and I bit the shit out of my lip. I mean, bad. Really bad. And it. What ended up happening was I had, like, a little. What felt like a little marble of, like, scar tissue or something that basically developed in my lip. Yeah. And like, just some continued bruising in that area. And I tried to go like. I was like, you know, whatever. I can just go without it. But it started to be like, you know, of course, I'm on FaceTime with my mom, and she notices every little thing. She's like, I think you might need to get that tape taken care of, because I can see it, you know, and it started to be a little bit like, oh, you. Whatever. So I went to my dentist, and I was like, what should I do about this. And so he referred me to, like, a maxillofacial, like, if that's how you pronounce it. Surgeon. [00:28:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:28:33] Speaker A: You know, surgeon at the mouth. Okay. And jaw. And so I went to this doctor, and let me fucking tell you, just an older gentleman, like our beloved, you know, Sean Hadassey or Dr. Jack Abbott, I should say. Comes in the room, like, introduces himself. It's like, hi, how you doing? Like, just starts having conversation, like, what are you doing in here today? Like, sitting down, like, scooting over on his little, you know, roller thing. Got his gloves on. [00:29:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:03] Speaker A: Bent over, just having a conversation with me. What's going on? How you doing? How'd this happen? Well, let's take a look. [00:29:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:09] Speaker A: Let's just say let's take care of you. And then it gets in there. He's like, oh, yeah, we're gonna get this. It's no problem. Whatever. The most, like, charisma out the ass on this man. I went back to the office, I said, I've met my man. I met my man. [00:29:21] Speaker B: My God. [00:29:22] Speaker A: I mean, so hot. [00:29:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:25] Speaker A: He and his. He and his wife, like, started an organization where they, like, go. They fly overseas, and they help, like, communities that are less fortunate, like, give cleft palate surgeries and things like that. He's also a huge tea connoisseur. I. Cultured, charismatic. [00:29:44] Speaker B: Wow. [00:29:44] Speaker A: Handsome. And a surgeon. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:47] Speaker A: Yeah. They're not making them like that. [00:29:48] Speaker B: They're not making them like that. Nope. [00:29:50] Speaker A: I need to hit the lottery. [00:29:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:52] Speaker A: I. [00:29:52] Speaker B: When I, I. When I worked at the hospital, there was this one. You know, orthopedic surgeons are like, whatever. They, like, all have huge egos. But there was this one man, super nice. So nice. Really good looking. He was a colonel. A fucking colonel. And he was a surgeon. I mean, it was like, everybody was like, well, let's clear the room. Oh, my God, this man is coming in. [00:30:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I mean, some of us. Some. Some of them are just blessed. Yeah. [00:30:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's get more charismatic, older male doctors on the forefront. [00:30:28] Speaker B: I don't know, though. [00:30:29] Speaker A: When I. [00:30:30] Speaker B: When you. When you say that, it's like, it could go either way. [00:30:34] Speaker A: I want it to go the way it needs to go. Only then. That's my fantasy right now. I do feel like that would align with my lifestyle. I'm like, just go do what the fuck you need to do. Leave me alone. I'll see you soon. [00:30:45] Speaker B: For sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Go on shift. See you later. See you in four. Days. [00:30:51] Speaker A: You don't need to be up under me. That's a totally separate topic. [00:30:54] Speaker B: Dr. Abbott. [00:30:56] Speaker A: Love him. Will always love him. I'm coming for that night shift, baby. Just give me. Give me a minute. I gotta work it. I gotta work up. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I think that's it. [00:31:07] Speaker A: Is that it? [00:31:08] Speaker B: Any. [00:31:08] Speaker A: Any other pop culture news from your perspective? Anything you want to talk about, anything you want to get off your chest? [00:31:12] Speaker B: I was trying to think about that. I don'. Really think there was anything. No. Like Katy Perry nonsense or anything. [00:31:19] Speaker A: Just our slow descent into fascism. [00:31:21] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. Bringing the firing squads back, things like that. [00:31:25] Speaker A: We are bringing the firing squads back. I know a couple people who can get up there. [00:31:30] Speaker B: Me too. Me too. And I will be the one. I don't like. You know, I don't like guns. [00:31:35] Speaker A: You'll be like, give me the trigger. I'm ready. Okay. I've got. I've got a bone to pick. Yes. [00:31:41] Speaker B: I was telling my dad that, like. Like, you know, I was like, staying over that person's house and like, you know, she had a gun and she was like, oh, you want to hold it? And I was like, absolutely not. [00:31:51] Speaker A: You did. Okay, first of all, you have completely not mentioned the fact that you went on a girls trip and they had you like two. Two minutes over the Alabama border, which is just way too. That's not going to work for Jillian. Not going to work for Jillian. You told me that. I said, oh, no. [00:32:09] Speaker B: I was. I was like, this is new. [00:32:11] Speaker A: No, no. We got to do a search and rescue for Jillian. I can'. They had her even that close to Al Alabama. Jesus Christ. [00:32:19] Speaker B: I knew that you were gonna. I was like, I. I'm. You are gonna die. I mean, like, what are you doing out there? [00:32:24] Speaker A: No, not Jillian. Not my baby Jillian. God. [00:32:27] Speaker B: There we were at that some. Some place where, you know, it was like a barbecue place. And even that, I knew. I knew I couldn't eat anything. Nothing sweet. [00:32:36] Speaker A: Not even a coleslaw. [00:32:38] Speaker B: I had a vinegar saw, which was good. Good. And then the pecan pie was good. [00:32:43] Speaker A: There we go. [00:32:43] Speaker B: There we go. But. And they had the biggest slices of meat. So right across the. So there was the storefront, right? And then the. The, like, it was like a family owned place. And then across the parking lot was this little. I don't even know what they. It was like this little stand where you could bring your deer meat. [00:33:02] Speaker A: Cancel it. Venison. [00:33:04] Speaker B: This venison. Like, like right after you've killed a deer, you bring it. It. [00:33:09] Speaker A: And Skin it and do the whole thing. God bless. Speaking of feyre, I know she was doing. She was over at that stand. She was. She was cleaning. She was cleaning that deer. She was getting it ready. Getting ready to stock the freezer. Oh, my God. [00:33:24] Speaker B: For some jerky. [00:33:26] Speaker A: God help me. Okay, well, you know, I love your little jean down south. I love it a little. A little, you know, a culture. A little seeing how the other side lives. [00:33:41] Speaker B: No, I mean, it was. It was great. It was really great. Like, I'd never seen Nashville before. And we went hiking. That was great. Yeah. I did not touch the gun, though. I would like. And you know, my dad goes, you know, Jillian, I think that was a good idea. No. [00:33:54] Speaker A: God. There's some way it would have just completely. [00:33:56] Speaker B: Just 100%. [00:33:58] Speaker A: And then you'd been calling me, being like, I'm down here in the plank. [00:34:02] Speaker B: I'm in an Alec Baldwin situation. [00:34:03] Speaker A: Situation. Get me out, please. [00:34:10] Speaker B: I don't know what to do. [00:34:11] Speaker A: I'd be calling your uncle back. He'd be like, julian, we've already paid off progressive car insurance. What else do you need? [00:34:18] Speaker B: He be like, you're. This one's on you. [00:34:20] Speaker A: I need to retain you yet again. That is so funny. Okay, well, yes. We love a little girls trip. [00:34:26] Speaker B: Love a girls trip. [00:34:27] Speaker A: Can't wait till next time. [00:34:28] Speaker B: It was cute. [00:34:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:30] Speaker B: All right. Yeah, no, you go ahead. [00:34:32] Speaker A: Well, okay. You know, girl, this week we're getting back into our romantasy reads. [00:34:37] Speaker B: Let's do it. Let's do it. [00:34:38] Speaker A: I can't wait. We are kicking off a reread of A Court of Thorns and Roses, the first installment in the iconic series by Sarah J. Moss. We are going to be breaking it down book by book, piece by piece, in true episodic fashion. So whether you've read the series 10 times or have no clue what the hell is going on, which even if you've read it 10 times, admit you still know. You don't know the. What the Is going on. I was re. I was rereading it and it was like, what the hell is going on? There is something here for you. We're. We're trying to make it so that. Listen, if you've read it, hopefully this is a fun, like, little. Little jaunt down memory lane. [00:35:14] Speaker B: Totally. [00:35:14] Speaker A: If you haven't read it and you have no intentions of reading it, this is just the gist. [00:35:17] Speaker B: Yeah, you're. This is just a tip. [00:35:20] Speaker A: You could just. This allows you to engage in water cooler talk. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. Well, and I mean, I think also because there's a new one. There are two new ones. Right. There are three plans. Yeah. One coming out in October and one coming out in January, maybe. [00:35:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:36] Speaker B: So. And this is. This is a big cultural phenomenon, you know, and so for people who haven't read, they, you know, can get gist. [00:35:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:44] Speaker B: And for people who have. They just have a little fun. [00:35:46] Speaker A: They just know, what the hell. We'll just be loosely talking about it. Totally. So, you know, your facts might not be completely. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Not right. Not right. [00:35:55] Speaker A: So don't repeat anything that you've heard here. But, you know, just, you know what's going on. That's our aim. [00:36:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a couple of girls talking about fairies. Yeah. [00:36:05] Speaker A: I mean, love that. What else are we gonna talk about in this day and age? [00:36:07] Speaker B: I know. So on this week's episode, we're diving into the opening of a court of thorns and roses by Sarah J. Moss and meeting our main character, Feyre, who is willing to do whatever it takes to keep her struggling family alive. We are in this. In this. So it's probably about, like the first five. First five chapters. [00:36:28] Speaker A: I want to say about the first five to six. Yeah. [00:36:30] Speaker B: So we're introduced to her two sisters, Nest and Elaine, and they're sort of distant, like, you know, kind of disabled father. Yeah. [00:36:42] Speaker A: He's a. Mikey. He's a pathetic man. [00:36:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:36:46] Speaker A: Bless him. [00:36:46] Speaker B: I know. God bless him. He's carving on those woods. Those. I mean, you know what I mean? [00:36:52] Speaker A: His woodworking. [00:36:53] Speaker B: Yeah, woodworking. [00:36:54] Speaker A: You know where you could probably find some of those down there in Alabama. They got plenty of them. Plenty of widdlers down there. Plenty of whalers in Alabama. You can find them every. Off every highway exit. Off every highway exit. Yeah. [00:37:10] Speaker B: Oh, my God, I'm dying. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:15] Speaker B: I knew you were gonna be like, not you and Elephant. [00:37:18] Speaker A: You were trying to hide from me. And I'm like, I will find you. And we're are going to bring to light. Alabama. I sent you. [00:37:25] Speaker B: I sent you that house. And you were like, are you okay? [00:37:29] Speaker A: It was a Zillow listing. And I was like, where are you housed? I was like, should I call the police? What is this? This is a cry for help. Like, literally no. No contacts, just a house. And I said, are you okay? And you're like, oh, sorry, [00:37:49] Speaker B: no service down here in Alabama. [00:37:52] Speaker A: God bless. Just doing her best. [00:37:53] Speaker B: God bless. Yeah. So, okay, anyway, there's that crackle. Yeah. [00:38:01] Speaker A: There. [00:38:01] Speaker B: You hear that crackle? [00:38:02] Speaker A: Yeah. I think it might be my mic. Be kind. [00:38:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. So everything shifts When Feyre encounters a mysterious creature in the woods and makes a choice that sets the entire story in motion. So by the end of this episode, the lines between the human world and something far more dangerous begin to blur. And Feyre's life is already starting to change. What do we think about the reread? [00:38:28] Speaker A: I had a good time rereading this. [00:38:29] Speaker B: I did too. [00:38:30] Speaker A: Okay, so, yes. We start this story off in the woods. [00:38:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:35] Speaker A: Meeting a young girl just out there with her quiver. Isabel, Quiver. [00:38:40] Speaker B: It's a quiver. [00:38:40] Speaker A: Quiver of arrows. Ash. Air. A couple arrows in a dream. [00:38:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Up in the trees. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Up in the tree line. She's like, I gotta make this kill or we're gonna starve until next spring. I don't know what's going on. And then she, you know, we sort of get to know her through, I guess, some inner dialogue, some thoughts. We learn that she comes from sort of a destitute situation. I was rereading this and I don't think I realized that they'd only been in this township for eight years. [00:39:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Because they. They used to be, I don't know, one of the wealthier families. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Yes. And we don't really learn much of that context until later. Books. [00:39:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:24] Speaker A: But rereading this, I was like, oh, they've only been here for eight years and it is a little bit of a mystery, I guess, in terms of. Right. [00:39:31] Speaker B: What happened. [00:39:32] Speaker A: Yeah. But anyway, our main character, Feyre, we learn, is basically just the provider for the fan. She works hard for the money. [00:39:40] Speaker B: She really does. She is bread winner and by the [00:39:44] Speaker A: way, a third grade dropout. [00:39:47] Speaker B: I know. [00:39:48] Speaker A: I hate to see. [00:39:48] Speaker B: I hate to see it. I know. She really, you know, like you were telling me today, you're like, I mean, I have a little bit more compassion for her this time around. And I think I do too. I mean, I think it's just like [00:40:01] Speaker A: she's doing her best now. Now listen, this is gonna be short lived, as you know, because as the books go on, it's gonna be like, sister, remember where you came from. Remember your roots. [00:40:09] Speaker B: Remember your roots. [00:40:09] Speaker A: Roots. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Seriously. [00:40:11] Speaker A: But, yeah, you know what we learn about this character too, is that she's the youngest of three. [00:40:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:17] Speaker A: And she's working the hardest to keep the family afloat. Like her mother. [00:40:20] Speaker B: Working. [00:40:21] Speaker A: No, none of them are working. Her mother has passed away. Her father's been disabled because he was a gambler. And Gam gambled away their fortune, their mortgage, their fortune. Got his kneecaps blown out by the mob. [00:40:35] Speaker B: I know, man, they really did him wrong. [00:40:37] Speaker A: They did him in. I mean, he's drawing. He's drawing. What is it, Social Security? [00:40:42] Speaker B: The Yakuza came in. [00:40:44] Speaker A: Yeah, they came in. They came in and they got him. They got his kneecap. So his kneecaps are down. He's handicapped. He can't work. [00:40:50] Speaker B: No. [00:40:51] Speaker A: And the sisters are not helping the situation. She's got an older. Her eldest sister is Nesta. Nasty, nasty Nesta. [00:40:59] Speaker B: And very, very, like, pathetic Elaine. [00:41:03] Speaker A: Pathetic Elaine. I don't fucking trust Elaine. [00:41:06] Speaker B: I don't trust Elaine either. There's something like. [00:41:09] Speaker A: Something off. [00:41:10] Speaker B: I can see like a snake coming out of her. [00:41:13] Speaker A: You know what I mean? Like snake in the grass. [00:41:14] Speaker B: There's. [00:41:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And basically everybody's ungrateful to Feyre for the things she does to keep the family afloat. She hunts, she fishes, she sews, she cooks, cooks, cleans. And most importantly, paints. [00:41:28] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:41:30] Speaker A: when I say paint, I'm not talking about a masterpiece like Michelangelo. No. I'm talking about finger painting. Okay. Her sister clamored enough, you know, coin at one point to go down here and get some, like, oil paints one time at the local flea market. And since then she's just been putting her art all around the house. And it doesn't sound like a good situation. It's flaking, it's falling off. [00:41:52] Speaker B: She doesn't even like it. [00:41:53] Speaker A: She don't like it. [00:41:54] Speaker B: Yeah, she doesn't. She. And I mean, Nesta makes comments about it. What was it that she made a comment that I was like, I'm dying. Hold on. I wrote this down. Yeah, hold on. [00:42:04] Speaker A: I think her best. While you look. Look that up. I think her biggest masterpiece piece, her most notable masterpiece is a dresser drawers. [00:42:12] Speaker B: Dresser. Yeah, yeah. Which I gave you, remember you. [00:42:15] Speaker A: Do I have it? Yeah, it's there. It's there in the new home in which there's three sets of drawers all dedicated to one of the girls. So Nesta's has flames, Elaine's has flowers, and Feyre's has the night sky. Stars. [00:42:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. She. Apparently there was like, sometime where Nesta. I think maybe they were talking about the guy that, you know, wants to propose to Nesta. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:41] Speaker B: And she's like. And Feyre has a problem with it. And she's like, feyre, whatever. Like, what do you mean? Like, we're gonna. We wanna. We're gonna leave you so that you can paint your glorious masterpieces. And she says with a sneer, [00:42:56] Speaker A: okay, first of all, you know, I told you today, I'm like, somebody's gonna have to have a TED Talk and explain to me in true detail why Nesta is a sympathetic figure. Because I am not a Nesta apologist. I personally am. Like, I do not understand the origin story of why you are so nasty. She's been nasty from day one. And for me, I'm like, we see it here. Like, all the sisters are starting from the same place. I'm like, you see? Favorite. Got it. Feyre's got a servant's mindset. She's got a servant's heart. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Right. [00:43:30] Speaker A: Nessa, on the other hand, is like, where's my dowry? I'm trying to get married to this man who's got all the housewives who's gonna beat me. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:43:38] Speaker A: But at least I have a boyfriend. [00:43:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh my God. It's bringing shame upon your family. That's the thing is like, when you're given this family, [00:43:48] Speaker A: you're looking for any way out. [00:43:50] Speaker B: I know, but it's like the book is, we're given this family and who do we want to read about? I mean, I don't know know. I guess Feyre first. [00:43:59] Speaker A: Yeah, let's. It's definitely not Elaine. I don't give a. About Home, Better Homes and Garden Elaine. [00:44:05] Speaker B: Speaking of, I am going to be so pissed if this next. These next. [00:44:09] Speaker A: I mean, it's Sarah Jessica Moss. You bet your sweet Sarah Jacob Moss. It better. John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. It better not be about Elaine. I'll scream. [00:44:21] Speaker B: Scream. We'll have done all this. We'll work working up to the new books and then be like, we're not reading them. [00:44:26] Speaker A: You know, it's so crazy when you talk about all of the characters in the sisters. People's, you know, people genuinely are one way or the other. About Feyre and Nesta. Especially Nesta. She's such a polarizing figure. [00:44:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:41] Speaker A: Everybody thinks Elaine hates her. [00:44:44] Speaker B: Well, she's so. Like, even in these chapters, she's so pathetic. [00:44:48] Speaker A: Who likes Elaine? Horseback girls. [00:44:50] Speaker B: I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. [00:44:52] Speaker A: I think she's giving horse girl energy. [00:44:54] Speaker B: Yeah, she for sure is. But like, even more horses are powerful. You know what I mean? Like, horse riding is a. Is going to be a powerful thing. No, this is like she needs to be protected. Like, get the out of here, girl. [00:45:11] Speaker A: Strap something all. [00:45:13] Speaker B: Protect. [00:45:14] Speaker A: Protect the homestead. Nobody's doing anything. Thing. Favorite. Poor thing is out here, she can't read. I've mentioned this maybe seven minutes ago. She can't read. And she basically is the sole provider for the family. She goes out here, she hunts, she fishes. And then she sells or wares down at the local market. And then when she's got the time, she hunches on a boy in the haystacks at a decrepit barn. I mean, the girl, she's doing her. And then when she has a moment, she paints. [00:45:46] Speaker B: She paints. She finger paints. [00:45:48] Speaker A: God bless a girl who has hobbies. [00:45:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And I mean, she never talks about painting. She always. She'll make me like. And I don't even want to think about the colors. [00:45:59] Speaker A: It's so crazy. And then when she talks about her future and her dreams, she just wants her sisters to be happy and have enough for she and her father. Like, she wants to be her father's caretaker. [00:46:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:09] Speaker A: And have just time and money to parents paint. [00:46:12] Speaker B: What a humble beginning. [00:46:13] Speaker A: Just a humble beginning. You know, you wish the best things for her. [00:46:16] Speaker B: I mean, it's awful. [00:46:18] Speaker A: Yes. And so selling her wares. Selling her wares, notably in this book. So she goes out on a. Just a regular hunting trip. [00:46:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:27] Speaker A: And as she is looking through the bramble, if you will, she sees a young dough. Yeah. She sees a young doe who's unsuspecting of any danger. [00:46:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:37] Speaker A: And while she is preparing to shoot this dough with an arrow, because again, she's got to feed the family for the next three weeks. [00:46:42] Speaker B: Weeks. [00:46:43] Speaker A: She sees a massive wolf come into her view. [00:46:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:46] Speaker A: And she feels weird about it, but she's like, girls gotta eat. [00:46:50] Speaker B: Yeah. She's like, I don't know. I gotta feed my family. [00:46:54] Speaker A: So she wrestles with herself for maybe 0.5 seconds. And then she lets that. She lets the arrow fly and she. She wounds the wolf. [00:47:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:05] Speaker A: Then she walks up to it and straight up execution style, shoots another arrow into the eye. [00:47:10] Speaker B: In the eye. Yeah. That was. Was like in intense. [00:47:13] Speaker A: Takes it down. [00:47:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:14] Speaker A: And the wolf was like sentient. He was looking at her. He knew what was going on. [00:47:18] Speaker B: She know it was. She also, I think, was like, oh, wait, what is this a wolf or is this. And so that was a little bit like, it was a little cannibal. [00:47:28] Speaker A: And the knowledge is on this continent, right above the border lives magical fairy beings. So you have to keep that in mind. [00:47:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:38] Speaker A: We don't know what we're working with. [00:47:39] Speaker B: We. I have no idea. We have no idea what's up there. [00:47:43] Speaker A: All we know is that there's rumors. There's rumors that the. The border's been compromised. So they're just. [00:47:53] Speaker B: They're coming over. [00:47:55] Speaker A: They're letting everybody over here illegally. And we got to watch out for you never know. They could be your neighbor. [00:48:04] Speaker B: Who knows? Yeah. Never know. No. Oh my God. [00:48:08] Speaker A: So she goes, to hell with it. She shoots this wolf. [00:48:11] Speaker B: She shoots the wolf. [00:48:12] Speaker A: He goes down and she goes, I don't have enough strength to take this big wolf back. I'm just gonna leave it here. It was cra. [00:48:18] Speaker B: And she's like, I just skinned it and then I left. Yeah. Oh my God. That was so crazy. [00:48:26] Speaker A: I was dying because I'm like, you can't take this back. And then, I don't know, run back and get it. It's cold. So it's gonna be preserved. [00:48:33] Speaker B: Right? Right, Right. Right. [00:48:34] Speaker A: So why don't you just like get Nesta, get her to wrap herself up in that tattered cape and go get this wool. [00:48:41] Speaker B: She's not gonna move. Are you kidding me? Nesta is not gonna do anything. [00:48:44] Speaker A: No. So anyway, she takes back the dough meat and the. The. The wolf pelt. And she's like, I can get a couple coppers for this. [00:48:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And her dad's like, what are you doing? Because I think her dad knows her dad is just. Just sitting on his ass. But he's like, what are you doing killing a woman? [00:49:01] Speaker A: Well, her dad's like, you're going to have the mob coming up in here. They're going to be asking questions and I don't have any more kneecaps to give. So somebody's going to have to figure it out. [00:49:15] Speaker B: Somebody's going to be sleeping with the fishes. [00:49:19] Speaker A: Favorite's like better than this hellscape. So anyway, she comes take me out on the boat. [00:49:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:28] Speaker A: She brings it home. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Home. [00:49:29] Speaker A: Nobody helps her. [00:49:30] Speaker B: No, no. That was insane though. She was like. She was like, nessa, did you cut down some wood today? What's going on? What have you guys been doing? [00:49:40] Speaker A: This is like, I don't dream of labor. [00:49:43] Speaker B: Ness is like my nails. I can't do it. [00:49:46] Speaker A: Yeah. There's no firewood. And basically our girl favor's like, I'm gonna go change out of my blood soaked clothes into my set of other blood soaked clothes that haven't been washed appropriately. Be. When I come out of here, there better be some firewood because I gotta clean these. [00:50:02] Speaker B: I gotta clean it and, and yeah. And cook it and prepare the pelt. [00:50:06] Speaker A: And so it fast forwards and not only has Feyre cleaned the. The animals that she's brought home, she's also cooked it and put it into a delicious stew that the family's like sharing around. [00:50:18] Speaker B: And that happened really fast by the way. I mean I. [00:50:21] Speaker A: She went to the. She went to the venison. She went to the venison table. The venison stand down in Alabama, Emma. They got it, they clean it, they prepare it quick. Okay, these people are ready. Yes. [00:50:34] Speaker B: I mean, I actually was thinking about that because, you know, I don't eat meat and like. [00:50:40] Speaker A: So this is a very interesting journey for you. [00:50:42] Speaker B: Yes, it's very interesting. And, you know, I have, like a little bit of an OCD tendencies. So those two things together when you're reading about, like skinning a deer, it's not great. [00:50:52] Speaker A: It's not for the faint of heart. Also, I'm like, you don't even have a. A qualified, trusted heat source. Source. [00:50:58] Speaker B: Jesus Christ, you need some food inspector come in here and advise you on your. Your cleanliness. [00:51:06] Speaker A: Close it down, Close it down. God. Raw venison. Oh, God. You know. [00:51:12] Speaker B: Yeah, that's bad, that. And that was bloody. [00:51:14] Speaker A: I hate to say it. She's also like, curing it into like a jerky of sorts. I don't know. [00:51:20] Speaker B: I. Yeah. Where are we getting the salt for that? [00:51:25] Speaker A: What the fuck is going on? So she. She cooks it, she prepares it, she meal preps it, if you will, for the family. She's like, we've got enough. We've got enough. And she's like, sisters, set your alarm clocks because we got to get down to the flea market tomorrow because we got to get. We got to get top dollar for this fur. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:42] Speaker A: So the girls put on their best tattered robes and they get up the following day and they head down into the market. And Feyre's looking around. She's like, it's gonna be a tough sell. [00:51:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, right. [00:51:54] Speaker A: These people are not looking like they want to do anything good. [00:51:57] Speaker B: Well, first they come across the zealots. [00:52:00] Speaker A: Oh, God. They come across the zealots. Yeah. [00:52:04] Speaker B: Children of the blessed. [00:52:05] Speaker A: Children of the blessed. Which I can just probably liken to modern day American Christian nationalists. [00:52:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. [00:52:16] Speaker A: Fundament fundamentalists. It's giving floor length skirts. It's giving Girls growing their hair down to their ankles. It's giving. I mean, this is kind of a crossover episode, but it's giving. Warren Jeffs down there in the. What is the LDS community down there? [00:52:36] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. Latter Day Saints in Utah or. [00:52:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, he's in jail now, but they're still up to their old tricks. [00:52:42] Speaker B: Right, right, right. There are some followers still out there [00:52:46] Speaker A: and they believe in the prophet, As do the children. [00:52:54] Speaker B: Children of the blessed. Yeah. I mean, you know what Nesta is So nasty. But I. I loved her talking to them. She was like, you are like a speck of dirt on the. My boot. My tattered boot. [00:53:06] Speaker A: She's going. She's going, go do this grift in another town. We don't. We don't want you here. [00:53:12] Speaker B: They're like, our friend is living, like, the high life. And she goes. And in Prythian, with the fairies, and she. And she's like, she's probably been eaten. [00:53:21] Speaker A: And they're not trying to hear that. [00:53:23] Speaker B: No, no. [00:53:23] Speaker A: They're like, excuse us, sisters. You have a moment to hear about our Lord and Savior, the high faith, and people are like, they used to own you as slaves. Get it. The Together. [00:53:34] Speaker B: I know. Yeah. That whole scene was hilarious. [00:53:37] Speaker A: I mean, who's kind of at the helm of the Children of the Blessed? [00:53:41] Speaker B: Like, honestly. Yeah, that's a good question. Who? [00:53:43] Speaker A: I mean, who's running this thing? [00:53:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Who is. [00:53:46] Speaker A: Are they subject to taxes? [00:53:47] Speaker B: Is it a human or is it a fairy? Oh, yeah. Are they subject to taxes? [00:53:53] Speaker A: I mean, who's winning here? [00:53:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:53:55] Speaker A: What's the benefit? It feels like it would be beneficial for a fairy to. [00:54:01] Speaker B: To run it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:54:03] Speaker A: To spread the good word. [00:54:05] Speaker B: To spread the good word. [00:54:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:07] Speaker B: I mean, I guess it's kind of like in Game of Thrones. What was that whole thing? [00:54:12] Speaker A: She was. She was. [00:54:13] Speaker B: Shame. Yeah. The. What was. It was like, whoever her cousin was and then was in the. In that religion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:54:23] Speaker A: I mean. Oh, my God, please, please don't traumatize me with Game of Thrones. God, what a journey that was, man. [00:54:28] Speaker B: I know. [00:54:28] Speaker A: Just for them to disappoint me like any man. Yep. [00:54:31] Speaker B: Basically. Yep. [00:54:32] Speaker A: All that work for nothing in season eight. Yeah, whatever. So the Children of the Blessed are like, come join us, sister. [00:54:39] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:54:39] Speaker A: We know a better way. [00:54:41] Speaker B: It's like, there's something going on. That cult leader is coming to your room in the middle of the night, and it's Warner Jeffs. Yeah, I know. [00:54:53] Speaker A: It's exactly who it is. [00:54:55] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:54:56] Speaker A: You know, it's the women with, like, the really hoyly doily hair situations. Their daughters or their sisters. There's something going on. [00:55:04] Speaker B: There's something. Their sisters or their daughters. [00:55:12] Speaker A: That is the Children of the Blessed. [00:55:17] Speaker B: Oh, my God. That is so. [00:55:19] Speaker A: It's anybody's guess. Meanwhile, you know, I just pictured the other acolytes being like, Jebediah, Jedidiah, Josiah, that whole thing. [00:55:31] Speaker B: They're out there playing euchre. [00:55:36] Speaker A: Know what that is? And meanwhile, Ness Is like, take it to another town, you weirdos. And that's. Or not Nessa. But Feyre at least has the good sense to be like, you know, we don't want you here. [00:55:56] Speaker B: Just run along now. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Yeah. And so as they, you know, escape the. The. The grasp of the children of the bl. Run into. I know we said that we're going to do a casting gu. I can only picture this person as like Gwendolyn Christie. [00:56:12] Speaker B: I forgot about her. Yes. Yeah, I think so too. I. I mean, I was thinking my third grade softball. [00:56:21] Speaker A: It's giving that. It is very much giving softball coach energy. God bless her. Wherever she is. [00:56:29] Speaker B: God bless her. She was. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, she was both the reason that I played softball and the reason I didn't want to play softball. Yeah. [00:56:37] Speaker A: Yeah. A large woman, a powerful woman. [00:56:40] Speaker B: She and my dad were great coaches together. [00:56:43] Speaker A: They saw eye to eye. Eye to eye. But we'll call her Gwendolyn. For all intents and purposes, she is a mercenary. I wanted to say missionary, but I'm like, they have two different purposes. Those are. [00:56:56] Speaker B: Those are two very different purposes. Represent two different metaphors. [00:56:59] Speaker A: Yes, yes. But she's a mercenary. And she notices pretty quickly that Feyre has these. These pelts and basically has a moment of, I think, kind of indirectly talking to Feyre about the lore of the Fae. [00:57:18] Speaker B: Right. [00:57:19] Speaker A: That live in Prythian. And also giving Feyre just a sense that she needs to be careful because there's things out there that she couldn't even begin to fathom that would haunt her nightmares and shows Feyre, like, physical scars of her battles with some of these things. And Feyre shook. [00:57:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:57:39] Speaker A: And so for her troubles, the woman goes, I'm gonna give you more money than what these items are worth. And favor is a little bit like, that was wild. I'm not a charity case. And the mercenary is like, I'm just paying it forward. Somebody, you know, in line ahead of me paid for me. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Yep. [00:57:54] Speaker A: So I'm just sending it right back. [00:57:56] Speaker B: It's like Starbucks employees fudgeing. Hate that. By the way. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Somebody did that for me like two weeks ago. [00:58:02] Speaker B: Yeah, somebody's done that. And then you're like, wait, should I get the next person? Or what are they going to order? I know I got the next person. And they literally were like, this happens for so long and they hate it. [00:58:14] Speaker A: Really? [00:58:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that like every time. And it's like, what, did you, like, read that in a chain email that you need to pay it for? [00:58:21] Speaker A: I think I broke the Chain. [00:58:22] Speaker B: Chain. [00:58:23] Speaker A: Not too long ago. Because I was so like, taken aback. [00:58:26] Speaker B: Oh, that's never happened. Okay. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it has, but I was so taken back, I didn't like it. I don't know, it was like early in the morning and I was like, I've got my scan, my app, what's going on? [00:58:35] Speaker B: Right. [00:58:36] Speaker A: You know? [00:58:36] Speaker B: Well, and I think they probably appreciated that though, honestly, that I broke it. Yeah. Yeah. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Well, okay. Because I had so much shame for probably 72 hours after that that I just broke the chain that the next time I went to Starbucks, I did pay. Pay for what looked like probably a 21 year old boy behind me that was headed into like his, one of his first jobs, honestly. [00:58:56] Speaker B: Yeah. When I, when that first happened to me, I was like, oh, they saw my car. [00:59:00] Speaker A: They said they were like, I know a cry for help when I see one. [00:59:04] Speaker B: She needs some, she needs some cash. [00:59:06] Speaker A: Meanwhile they're like, she's all right. [00:59:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And meanwhile you're like, I. I'm all right. I don't need this. [00:59:12] Speaker B: I'm all right. I don't need it. [00:59:14] Speaker A: Yeah, Sorry. [00:59:16] Speaker B: Yeah, what were. [00:59:17] Speaker A: No, she just pays it forward. [00:59:19] Speaker B: Pays it forward. Right. [00:59:20] Speaker A: And we love to see it. [00:59:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:21] Speaker A: And so basically now the girls have enough to cover their rent. [00:59:25] Speaker B: Great. [00:59:26] Speaker A: And maybe, you know, buy a couple new paint brushes, I don't know. Yeah. [00:59:31] Speaker B: Or some white paint. She's been looking for white paint. [00:59:33] Speaker A: Oh, God, for what? For stars, the daffodils, [00:59:40] Speaker B: something. [00:59:41] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:59:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:42] Speaker A: Okay. So they're like, thanks so much. We've got what we need at the flea market. And as they're leaving town, she looks across, across the way she sees her situationship. What's that boy's name? [00:59:53] Speaker B: Isaac Hale. [00:59:54] Speaker A: Isaac Hale is like, you need to come on and get in this barn. We got some work to do. And favor is like, I haven't showered in two months, but I'm about to go get it on with Isaac Hill. [01:00:04] Speaker B: You know, I was a little bit like, okay, Isaac. When he, you know, they had these like those like iron. Because they think like that wards off fair. And like, apparently he has an iron cuff. And he was like, farrick, I'll buy you an iron cuff. And she was like, no, I think that's too. [01:00:20] Speaker A: It's super personal. [01:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. But he's the first son of a farmer, so I think he's. [01:00:26] Speaker A: That's doing pretty well. [01:00:27] Speaker B: Yeah, he's doing pretty well. [01:00:29] Speaker A: So Feyre looks at her sisters and is like, take this money back with you. I'll see y'. All. Don't wait up. I'll see you tonight. Make. Make sure you just leave a little stew out for me. I don't know, know, Just. Just be. Just be gracious. [01:00:42] Speaker B: She is booked and busy. [01:00:43] Speaker A: She is booked and busy. So then she goes out. She goes to the bar. She gets her back blown out by Isaac. [01:00:48] Speaker B: But it's so funny because she literally. She's like. I mean, this sex isn't great. She's like, we don't know what we're doing. [01:00:54] Speaker A: Yeah. She's like, it doesn't have much finesse. [01:00:56] Speaker B: Yeah. There's no skill here. [01:00:59] Speaker A: Yeah. And you're like, yeah, I remember that. I know what that's like, sister. Do your best in there. Do your best. [01:01:05] Speaker B: I wasn't even living in like, like abject, abject poverty. [01:01:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Can you imagine? I'm like, if I'm not. My cleanliness is not 110. [01:01:15] Speaker B: Oh, my God. You know, this is like my biggest thing with these books. [01:01:19] Speaker A: There. [01:01:19] Speaker B: Don't get it. [01:01:20] Speaker A: There's no mention of a. Of anybody drawing a hot bath or anything. [01:01:23] Speaker B: There's a bar of soap. I can't. I can't handle it. You know what? Once you. Once you down a dough and skin it and eat the flute. Food. [01:01:36] Speaker A: It smells wild. [01:01:37] Speaker B: Well, it smells wild. You know what you should use that money for? To buy a bar of soap. [01:01:41] Speaker A: The biggest bar. [01:01:42] Speaker B: It's crazy. [01:01:44] Speaker A: You know what Elaine. Elaine's hobby needs to be? Soap making. [01:01:48] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. Something. [01:01:51] Speaker A: Get your ass up and work. [01:01:52] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. I mean, crush some of those goddamn [01:01:56] Speaker A: flower petals and make them. Make them nice. [01:01:59] Speaker B: Make them nice. [01:02:00] Speaker A: Get down there to the flea market. Jesus. And sell your wig years. [01:02:04] Speaker B: You know, it smells bad there. You know it smells bad. [01:02:07] Speaker A: You got a man in the house. He's not getting clean. [01:02:10] Speaker B: No. He's not even getting up his office ass. [01:02:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:14] Speaker B: No. [01:02:16] Speaker A: So what? Looks like a curse initially, but, you know, given everything that's going on, might be a blessing. Is Feyre comes home that night. She's done, you know, done the deed. And everybody's sitting around talking. Ness is over here talking about her potentially soon to be fiance who. Who you know, comes from an abusive. Yeah, yeah. Comes from an abusive household. His dad beats his mom. He does not intervene. He is not a good man. Feyre's like, over my dead body, basically. You know, favor is almost like, well, we can make that happen. [01:02:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:02:49] Speaker A: So the girls are. The girls are fighting. [01:02:51] Speaker B: The girls are fighting, and all of [01:02:52] Speaker A: a sudden somebody beats in the Front door, which I died laughing because they're supposed to be wards [01:03:00] Speaker B: that some. Some man came and etched them around. [01:03:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:03] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, yeah. [01:03:04] Speaker A: They got, they got scammed. [01:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:07] Speaker A: So basically their ADT system is not working. Somebody just beats the door down and standing there is a wolf, feline with horns, something. [01:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I actually, when I first like pictured this, I pictured it as like standing up like a human, you know, but like apparently it's like a four legged animal. [01:03:28] Speaker A: Did you ever see the cartoon Big Mouth? [01:03:30] Speaker B: No. [01:03:30] Speaker A: Nick Krolls cartoon. [01:03:31] Speaker B: I love him though. [01:03:32] Speaker A: But no, it. That you're. What you're envisioning in my mind makes me think of like the, the puberty monster, which is played by Maya Rudolph. She kind of. I'm gonna pull it up while you talk about this. [01:03:42] Speaker B: Oh my God. [01:03:43] Speaker A: But you saw, you saw it standing on its hind legs. [01:03:46] Speaker B: I saw it standing on its hind legs and like more like a. Like a minotaur, but. But like, no, but like, no, like back. I don't know. Anyway, I. Oh, that's so funny. [01:03:59] Speaker A: No, this isn't played by Maya Rudolph. I don't know who this is played by necessarily, but basically he's just like a crazy character in the show. [01:04:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. I know. When he came in there, I was [01:04:10] Speaker A: like, what's going on? Like a feline body, a wolf head, horns, twisted horns. [01:04:17] Speaker B: Twisted horns. I. I mean, and also like, I. I didn't know if they were like on his back or on his. I mean, it was like very confusing. [01:04:24] Speaker A: And then he comes in there and he's basically accusing the whole family of being murderers. You need to watch your mouth when you come in here. [01:04:31] Speaker B: These people don't even leave their house. Besides, Feyre, Are you kidding me? [01:04:36] Speaker A: And pretty soon the whole family's basically [01:04:38] Speaker B: like pointing their finger. [01:04:41] Speaker A: They're ready to sell her up a creek. [01:04:44] Speaker B: They're like, not me. [01:04:47] Speaker A: So then Feyre, basically, he's accusing them of murder. He basically has to come in here and school these people about their ignorance. [01:04:53] Speaker B: Right, right. [01:04:53] Speaker A: And basically just be like, I don't know what the y' all think is going on, but you, you killed a magical being. Feyre's like, I was just out there trying to honey dough. He got in the way. [01:05:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like. [01:05:03] Speaker A: And he's like, the evidence points otherwise you shot him dead in the face execution style, but whatever. And he's like, we're not. Maybe you all don't know this, but four human queens made, baby. Basically an agreement that. [01:05:17] Speaker B: Yeah, if you Kill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:05:19] Speaker A: If you kill a magical being, it's a. It's an eye for an eye. Yeah. Basically. [01:05:26] Speaker B: Gotta take you. [01:05:27] Speaker A: So he's like, I can. We can do this the easy way or the hard way. The easy way being you get on my stallion, I got parked out front, and I take you into our magical lands. Or I could just rip you the ribbons out here on your front, out here in the. In the driveway. So you, You. You figure it out. I don't know if you want your neighbor seeing all this or what, but I would highly recommend that you get on. And Feyre's like, well, I didn't even realize that, you know, you all would even have that option. I thought it was dead on site. [01:05:57] Speaker B: Right. [01:05:57] Speaker A: And he's like, you all think that. You all don't have any idea who we are. Like, you didn't. You don't even know that. We could be, you know, gracious and good. I'm not going to explain anymore. You're just gonna have to get on the horse. [01:06:09] Speaker B: The horse. Yeah. And then the most heartbreaking thing happens. The dad goes, don't come back. Yeah. [01:06:16] Speaker A: He's like, if you ever get free, just leave. [01:06:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:18] Speaker A: Meanwhile, Feyre, like, as she's going out the door is like, remember, I've got deer sandwiches in the freezer and jerky. You guys should be good for three weeks. [01:06:27] Speaker B: Need two pounds of salt. This should. [01:06:31] Speaker A: This should hold you over. And oh, hey, all my life savings is on top of the dresser. Have a good time. I love you. Be blessed. And everybody should keep going with this. [01:06:41] Speaker B: With this wolf. [01:06:42] Speaker A: Literally. Nobody is, like, fighting for her. [01:06:45] Speaker B: Nobody. I mean, they all. [01:06:47] Speaker A: Of course. [01:06:48] Speaker B: Yes, of course. Nesta is like, protecting Elaine because it's like, why? I. I don't even know also. So, like. And then they're basically like, bye, see you later. Sorry about. Sorry about your tough luck. [01:07:01] Speaker A: Should have killed that wolf. But we really appreciate. Appreciate what it's given us. They don't care where she's going. They don't give a. [01:07:09] Speaker B: No, absolutely not. They were like, come on. Like, you just get out of here. And then they're gonna have to do all the work now. So. Yeah. [01:07:16] Speaker A: And then Feyre is really upset because she's like, imagining. She's like, they're not gonna work. [01:07:20] Speaker B: Yeah. And she had made that, like, promise to her mom that she was going to take care of them. Which I was like, what? Like, why is she the one that's doing that? [01:07:28] Speaker A: But she's the youngest. [01:07:30] Speaker B: She's the youngest doesn't make any sense. [01:07:31] Speaker A: Sense. [01:07:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:32] Speaker A: So anyway, Feyre, you know, after she leaves instructions for heating up lasagna in the oven, she's like. Yeah. She heads outside where the wolf cat basically is like, here's my stout. And it's like a white horse in the middle of the woods. He's warm. He's like, hey, girl, get up here. [01:07:52] Speaker B: She's like, okay. Yeah, yeah. [01:07:54] Speaker A: And then they start trudging north to the great unknown. And then because, you know, poverty is exhausting, she passes out asleep. [01:08:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Well, does she? [01:08:06] Speaker A: Well, no, he puts her to sleep. He puts her to sleep. Yeah. She has like some sort of metallic tang. [01:08:11] Speaker B: Yeah. That she senses. [01:08:13] Speaker A: Yeah. And then she wakes up, she realizes it's been two days since she's been knocked out and they have crossed the magical realm into Prythian. [01:08:21] Speaker B: Yep. [01:08:23] Speaker A: And what's the next. [01:08:24] Speaker B: What is next? [01:08:25] Speaker A: I guess we'll just have to see next week's episode. Can't wait. [01:08:32] Speaker B: Last week on. [01:08:33] Speaker A: Yes. [01:08:33] Speaker B: Spellbound. [01:08:34] Speaker A: Yeah, last week. [01:08:35] Speaker B: We really should do that. Yeah, yeah. [01:08:37] Speaker A: Like, just a quick recap. We'll. Let's workshop it. [01:08:42] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:42] Speaker A: Well, we hope you enjoyed that. [01:08:43] Speaker B: That was. [01:08:43] Speaker A: That was great. I hope that brought you up to speed. [01:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah. I hope you like that little story. Bedtime story. [01:08:48] Speaker A: I hope that you're like, waiting with baited breath death about what comes next. [01:08:52] Speaker B: The spring, the secret garden. [01:08:54] Speaker A: Secret garden. We've got a little fire fest. [01:08:57] Speaker B: We've got a fire fest. Yeah. We've got a. A little sassy best friend, we gotta say. [01:09:03] Speaker A: We got a skeleton that's just roaming the woods. Yep. And we got a little. I don't know, a little. A little Bruce Wayne Batman cave action also. [01:09:14] Speaker B: Yes. [01:09:15] Speaker A: A lot of things cool going on in this book. [01:09:17] Speaker B: A little bit of like Beauty and the Beast that I'm not a fan of the comparison to, but, you know, what are you gonna do? [01:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah, what? Who cares? [01:09:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:26] Speaker A: It'll be a mute point here pretty soon. [01:09:28] Speaker B: I know. [01:09:30] Speaker A: Okay, well, I would like to do a little casting couch. [01:09:33] Speaker B: Let's do it. [01:09:34] Speaker A: Okay. You know, we love to play MASH on this game. Given that we have limited material to work with on this episode, we're gonna do a chaotic casting couch situation where we will be casting characters from this segment of the book with actors. Characters from the pit. [01:09:53] Speaker B: Yes. So are we gonna do. I was thinking about this and I was like, are we gonna do the. Like the actors names or the. [01:09:58] Speaker A: The characters? Let's just do the characters because, I mean, it's kind of Hard. It's. [01:10:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some of. They're like unknowns too. [01:10:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:05] Speaker B: It's like, harder. Yeah, yeah. [01:10:06] Speaker A: Who are you casting as Feyre? Oh, good question. [01:10:12] Speaker B: God, she. I hadn't even thought about. [01:10:14] Speaker A: I'm doing mohair. [01:10:16] Speaker B: I was thinking that too. Yeah, I was thinking that too. Unless we're going for Dana, and then I wouldn't hate that either. [01:10:23] Speaker A: Dana is my mercenary. Mercenary. Okay. Dana's like. I've seen some. Dana's like, 32 years. [01:10:31] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm gonna pay it forward. She really is. Yeah, yeah. [01:10:34] Speaker A: She would do it. [01:10:36] Speaker B: I could see that Mohan. But, like, Mohan is a little bit too, like, you know, like, worried or is like, a little bit, like, too anxious. [01:10:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:48] Speaker B: So I could see. [01:10:49] Speaker A: I don't see Mo. I see Moham being that now. I see Feyre being that now. I don't see Feyre being that anxious later. So my casting will change. [01:10:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. I mean, I would put her more as like, Javati, honestly. [01:11:02] Speaker A: Oh, I love it. That's a character I struggle with. [01:11:05] Speaker B: Little scrappy. Yeah. [01:11:08] Speaker A: I'm like, girl, stand up. [01:11:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know. [01:11:10] Speaker A: She's getting there. [01:11:11] Speaker B: But she is like the young one and. Yeah. I don't know. So either one. [01:11:15] Speaker A: Okay. I like that. Who's Nesta for you? Santos. [01:11:19] Speaker B: Santos, for sure. Easy 100. [01:11:22] Speaker A: No other question for me. Who's your Elaine? Mel. [01:11:29] Speaker B: I was gonna say her, but I like her. [01:11:30] Speaker A: I know. I love me. I live for her. [01:11:33] Speaker B: Love Val. And so I can't do that. [01:11:35] Speaker A: Last night was the. The episode I watched was her doing. Working her magic with a autistic patient. [01:11:42] Speaker B: She's so good. [01:11:43] Speaker A: She's so good. [01:11:44] Speaker B: So good. [01:11:45] Speaker A: Love her. [01:11:46] Speaker B: So I honestly, like, if I. Yeah. Because then Javati would probably work more with Elaine. Honestly. [01:11:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. [01:11:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:54] Speaker A: Yes. Let's slot her in there. Yeah. Who is. Yeah. Your papa Archeron. [01:12:02] Speaker B: Papa. I mean, my papa that I want to be. My papa is Dr. Jack Abbott or Noah Wy. Yeah. But no, I don't even know. I don't even know who he could be. [01:12:16] Speaker A: Well, who was the doctor that was the mentor that passed away? [01:12:21] Speaker B: Oh, I can't remember his. [01:12:22] Speaker A: Oh, like Anderson. [01:12:25] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. [01:12:27] Speaker A: We're just gonna put him in there. [01:12:27] Speaker B: Put him in there. [01:12:28] Speaker A: In there. [01:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:28] Speaker A: God bless. Love you. Mentor type. You know, what are you gonna do? [01:12:34] Speaker B: There's really no pathetic man. [01:12:35] Speaker A: No. [01:12:36] Speaker B: In the pit. [01:12:36] Speaker A: That's the problem. No, no, no, no, there's not. That's how. Why it's A fantasy. [01:12:41] Speaker B: Isaac Hale, what do you think? [01:12:43] Speaker A: Oh, Isaac. Isaac. I'm gonna do Langdon. [01:12:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I would do Langdon too. Yeah. I was thinking Whitaker, just because of the Farmer situation, you know. Okay, you know, let's take a. [01:12:54] Speaker A: Let's take a pause here. Whitaker, surprisingly, to me, has a huge fan base, following on social media as well. People are feral for him as well. [01:13:03] Speaker B: Shut up. [01:13:04] Speaker A: To me, it's so interesting because I. Ladies, gents, I see the vision. [01:13:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:09] Speaker A: However, he does look like a sad. Like Tim Burton. [01:13:13] Speaker B: He does. Yeah. He's so sweet. [01:13:15] Speaker A: He's so sweet. [01:13:16] Speaker B: He's so sweet. I could. You know, that's interesting. Like, and basically when ER was out, it was George Clooney and the Noah Wiley was kind of the young one. So I could see. I was like, even thinking about that when I was watching the second season. I was like, oh, my God. Jesus Christ. What if we're 70 years old watching Whitaker as the Zaddy [01:13:38] Speaker A: and we're like, we've seen it. We've seen this before. Love that. Good for him. [01:13:44] Speaker B: No, but I think he's like. I don't know, he could be Isaac Hale, but, you know, I don't know Isaac, she describes him as having like, a little bit of, like, a dark side. That's like, what? And so I don't think that's Whitaker. [01:13:57] Speaker A: I don't think that's Whitaker. No. [01:13:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:59] Speaker A: Well, maybe we'll find a role for Whitaker down the road. [01:14:01] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do that. [01:14:02] Speaker A: What about the guy who's like Tomas, right? [01:14:05] Speaker B: Oh, Tomas. Yeah. [01:14:08] Speaker A: If we are going to cast Tomas, then I would put Whitaker at Isaac. Isaac. [01:14:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:14:15] Speaker A: Just because I don't have any other options. [01:14:17] Speaker B: You know what I would seen as the mercenary. I love the Dana idea, but I was thinking, thinking the trauma surgeon. [01:14:24] Speaker A: Love that. [01:14:25] Speaker B: What was her name? Garcia. Yeah. [01:14:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I like her. Yep. You know what? I'll put her in there. Yeah, I'll put her in there. [01:14:31] Speaker B: I mean, we're gonna find somewhere for Dana. [01:14:33] Speaker A: I think Dana might be Alice coming up. [01:14:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Maybe that actually is perfect. [01:14:39] Speaker A: But you know what? I kind of hate that too, because, you know, Alice didn't have a long storyline. I mean, I hope she comes back. Back, but me too. It was. I don't mean to confuse. The people at home who haven't read the book, have no idea who. Who the. Is Alice. We'll tell you next time on next week's episode. Okay, Are. Let's see. Is that everybody? [01:14:59] Speaker B: I think [01:15:01] Speaker A: no. [01:15:02] Speaker B: Tamlin. Yeah. Well. Well, the beast. [01:15:05] Speaker A: The Beast. [01:15:05] Speaker B: Who is the Beast? [01:15:07] Speaker A: Okay, the beast is going to be Dr. Rob Robbie. Okay. [01:15:12] Speaker B: Ah. Okay. All right, sit. So in this. [01:15:18] Speaker A: No. [01:15:19] Speaker B: Segment this. [01:15:20] Speaker A: No, no, no. I'm not going to put that on doctor. You know what? I'm going to protect Dr. Robbie and Dr. Abbott at all costs. [01:15:25] Speaker B: All costs. [01:15:26] Speaker A: Because you know. You know who. You know who Dr. Abbott's going to be. [01:15:31] Speaker B: Absolutely. We're going to meet him, Helen, at. [01:15:38] Speaker A: No. Okay, so then I will put. I'm going to make Tamlin that man that's out in the waiting room, basically the whole season and complaining about the wait time. [01:15:48] Speaker B: Okay. Is he still there in the waiting room? [01:15:50] Speaker A: You're making me anxious. He's still in the waiting room. [01:15:53] Speaker B: Okay, well, we'll see next. Next episode. What you think? What, is he going to die? No. [01:15:58] Speaker A: Is he going to go on a rampage? [01:16:00] Speaker B: I don't know. He'll do what Angerman you do do. [01:16:04] Speaker A: We gotta put him down. Firing squad. [01:16:08] Speaker B: He really does, though. He's kind of got like a. Like a lionish. He's. [01:16:12] Speaker A: He's been. He's in there being racist. He's doing. [01:16:16] Speaker B: Yeah. So we'll put him as. As the Beast. [01:16:18] Speaker A: You know who we're gonna have to find a place for? [01:16:21] Speaker B: Who? [01:16:21] Speaker A: Mateo. And then I've seen clips. He and Jabati have a little thing. [01:16:26] Speaker B: Oh, they do. They do. Yeah. He's a little bit intrigued by her. And she's like, I'm like 20. [01:16:32] Speaker A: I'm like, girl, pull on your big girl panties and let's go. [01:16:35] Speaker B: She, like, asks him out. [01:16:37] Speaker A: It's good for her. [01:16:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:16:38] Speaker A: You know, she surprises me sometimes with her bravery and I love that. [01:16:41] Speaker B: So. Yeah. But. Yeah, okay. [01:16:46] Speaker A: I was about to tell you, another patient that I knew you couldn't stand the idea of, but we can take that offline. [01:16:51] Speaker B: I mean, it just. [01:16:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it just keeps going. This is a song that never ends. [01:16:54] Speaker B: It's a song that never ends. It's. It's a shock to me still that I used to work in hospitals. [01:16:59] Speaker A: It's a shock to me. [01:17:01] Speaker B: I mean, I kind of still do. [01:17:03] Speaker A: You do? Well, I love this episode. [01:17:07] Speaker B: I thought it was good. Okay. [01:17:09] Speaker A: All right, well, thanks for tuning in. If you're still here. And remember, Clark, we could call you out by name. Thank you for tuning in. And remember, if you're feeling the vibe, rate and subscribe. [01:17:25] Speaker B: We also want to give a shout out, I mean, kind of to Christian again today. [01:17:31] Speaker A: Not us giving kudos to a man not doing anything. [01:17:34] Speaker B: A man on a European tour [01:17:38] Speaker A: leaving us high and dry. [01:17:40] Speaker B: Okay, so I guess we kind of want to give a shout out to Christian McCann, always evergreen, for leaving us a video that did not. [01:17:46] Speaker A: Yes, we tried our best. I'm sitting here holding the cords of this microphone like my life depends on it. [01:17:51] Speaker B: Snap, crackle, pop. [01:17:52] Speaker A: Yes. [01:17:54] Speaker B: As always, thank you to the illustrious Lincoln Lodge in Chicago, Illinois, for letting us do our thing. Until next time. [01:18:00] Speaker A: Bye. [01:18:00] Speaker B: Bye.

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